OOTP-server reports - Page 4

Subby · 06-18-2002, 01:12 PM

Not sure if this helps, but an RWBL league member saved the original deleted thread and they can be viewed here:

Page One.

Page Two.

Devaneyfan could answer this better than anyone, but it sounds like the changes took place over the course of the season.

Maybe the most damning evidence is in this thread at FOFC where it is pointed out that two teams were possibly being edited and perhaps making stealth trades.

Then HM screamed that the team was owned by an owner named Mustang and that the editing of TWO teams was very peculiar. Almost on cue, Mustang posts later in the thread that he renounced ownership at the beginning of the season. Whoops.

So - HornsManiac, the COMMISSIONER of the league, doesn't know who is owners are? Come on now...

And all of this crying about trolling and flaming is just an attempt to further obscure the truth. Trust me.

Draft Dodger · 06-18-2002, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Andreas Raht
So an idea would be to close the league and open a new one - probably using the same layout, why not, if you created it.

if not, Coolley has some terrific HTML templates available for online leagues to use...

Drake · 06-18-2002, 01:25 PM

If this had been a Christian league, it would not have happened.

spleen1015 · 06-18-2002, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Drake
If this had been a Christian league, it would not have happened.

No doubt. May the Lord have mercy on your soul HM.

Scott Vibert · 06-18-2002, 01:37 PM

Ok, this has been resolved guys, time to let this thread die.

Drake · 06-18-2002, 01:50 PM

I guess I should have gotten my knocks in three hours ago like you did, eh?

Fritz · 06-18-2002, 01:50 PM

Scotty Baby. Don't you know that we never let things die? Well, unless we get bored or a cake is burning or something.

Qrashman · 06-18-2002, 01:59 PM

die? heck no! This is one of the most entertaining threads I've seen in a long time.

Goody · 06-18-2002, 02:00 PM

Wow.

I feel like I just walked out of a 3 hour movie.

Draft Dodger · 06-18-2002, 02:21 PM

comedy like this should never die...

Kurtis R. · 06-18-2002, 02:58 PM

I have just spent about 1 1/2 hours reading this ALL over. And all I have to say is... WOW!!

Hope that you guys get your order ID's back!!!

Kurtis
CUBL Commish

CamEdwards · 06-18-2002, 03:14 PM

Who would have thought so much drama, intrigue, scandal, and treachery could be found tucked away in the Tech Support forum?

BTW, I notice HM has been strangely silent over the past few hours. Makes me wonder if it's true that you can die from embarrassment.

Draft Dodger · 06-18-2002, 03:16 PM

he's creating a new alias.

Kurtis R. · 06-18-2002, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Draft Dodger
he's creating a new alias.

I don't think he has to create one, he probably has a couple stashed away for instances like this

Kurtis
CUBL Commish

Maple Leafs · 06-18-2002, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CUBL Commish
I don't think he has to create one, he probably has a couple stashed away for instances like this

Hmm... has anyone ever seen Horns Maniac and Subby logged in at the same time?

Someone check their IPs.

Subby · 06-18-2002, 03:34 PM

We are the same person.

When I snort crack and chug Fresca, I post as Subby.

I only post as HornsManiac after I have systematically killed one of my slightly overweight and/or effeminate classmates...

Cooleyvol · 06-18-2002, 04:39 PM

.........amazing!!

Dargone · 06-18-2002, 04:43 PM

Guuuhhh...

Kezzek · 06-18-2002, 04:49 PM

All in all a VERY entertaining read!

I'll keep all other opinions to myself.

Hopefully the situation gets resolved satisfactorily!

kcchief19 · 06-18-2002, 10:53 PM

Subby hit exactly what I was going to point out. Further investigation showed that Atlanta and Milwaukee were edited and that a player from Milwaukee was edited and traded to Atlanta, although Milwaukee had no owner and the trade was never posted.

The only way for the conspiracy theory to work is that one of the two other people that had the server password had to: (1) edit players on both teams; (2) transfer a player from one team to another; and (3) get lucky in that the commissioner for some bizarre reason would download the league to his hard drive, thus overwriting the master copy on his hard drive. That's quite a leap.

Even after Andreas' posts, I'm still fuzzy on the resolution. If we want to dissolve the league and get our order IDs freed, what is the process?

After this, I doubt I'll ever play in online league again. As long as HM doesn't get server space with my ID, I really don't care what happens to the league.

06-18-2002, 01:50 PM	#66
Drake Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 27	I guess I should have gotten my knocks in three hours ago like you did, eh? Last edited by Drake; 06-18-2002 at 02:07 PM.

06-18-2002, 01:59 PM	#68
Qrashman All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NY Posts: 651	die? heck no! This is one of the most entertaining threads I've seen in a long time. __________________ ------------------- Montreal Expos / Calgary Storm, HBL HBL Baseball - Founded March 2001. HBL Waiting List

06-18-2002, 02:00 PM	#69
Goody Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Korea Posts: 3,530	Wow. I feel like I just walked out of a 3 hour movie. __________________ In the past: Laseron Baseball Association creator. Present: I am Rezulm on PT and OOTP Discord. Future: I wish it was the past.

06-18-2002, 02:21 PM	#70
Draft Dodger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: formerly of the OTBL Posts: 4,113	comedy like this should never die... __________________ Draft Dodger (Anarchy: Anything goes. The Draft Dodger viewpoint.) Sophmoric[sic] Member of the OOTP Boards (It's not OOTP; it's your computer) 15 GB Webhosting for $6.95 a month IMO we are best off abandoning that sinking ship that is Off Topic to the rats infesting it and just starting a whole new Baseball Forum from scratch.

06-18-2002, 02:58 PM	#71
Kurtis R. All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,105	I have just spent about 1 1/2 hours reading this ALL over. And all I have to say is... WOW!! Hope that you guys get your order ID's back!!! Kurtis CUBL Commish __________________ CUBL Commissioner

06-18-2002, 01:12 PM	#61
Subby Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 375	Not sure if this helps, but an RWBL league member saved the original deleted thread and they can be viewed here: Page One. Page Two. Devaneyfan could answer this better than anyone, but it sounds like the changes took place over the course of the season. Maybe the most damning evidence is in this thread at FOFC where it is pointed out that two teams were possibly being edited and perhaps making stealth trades. Then HM screamed that the team was owned by an owner named Mustang and that the editing of TWO teams was very peculiar. Almost on cue, Mustang posts later in the thread that he renounced ownership at the beginning of the season. Whoops. So - HornsManiac, the COMMISSIONER of the league, doesn't know who is owners are? Come on now... And all of this crying about trolling and flaming is just an attempt to further obscure the truth. Trust me.

06-18-2002, 01:25 PM	#63
Drake Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 27	If this had been a Christian league, it would not have happened.

06-18-2002, 01:37 PM	#65
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,182	Ok, this has been resolved guys, time to let this thread die.

06-18-2002, 01:50 PM	#67
Fritz Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 81	Scotty Baby. Don't you know that we never let things die? Well, unless we get bored or a cake is burning or something.

06-18-2002, 03:14 PM	#72
CamEdwards Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 25	Who would have thought so much drama, intrigue, scandal, and treachery could be found tucked away in the Tech Support forum? BTW, I notice HM has been strangely silent over the past few hours. Makes me wonder if it's true that you can die from embarrassment.

06-18-2002, 03:16 PM	#73
Draft Dodger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: formerly of the OTBL Posts: 4,113	he's creating a new alias. __________________ Draft Dodger (Anarchy: Anything goes. The Draft Dodger viewpoint.) Sophmoric[sic] Member of the OOTP Boards (It's not OOTP; it's your computer) 15 GB Webhosting for $6.95 a month IMO we are best off abandoning that sinking ship that is Off Topic to the rats infesting it and just starting a whole new Baseball Forum from scratch.

06-18-2002, 03:34 PM	#76
Subby Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 375	We are the same person. When I snort crack and chug Fresca, I post as Subby. I only post as HornsManiac after I have systematically killed one of my slightly overweight and/or effeminate classmates...

06-18-2002, 04:39 PM	#77
Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Union City, TN Posts: 6,383	.........amazing!!

06-18-2002, 04:43 PM	#78
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	Guuuhhh... __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

06-18-2002, 04:49 PM	#79
Kezzek All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Keyboard - frantically typing in subtle insults to raise my self-esteem Posts: 973	All in all a VERY entertaining read! I'll keep all other opinions to myself. Hopefully the situation gets resolved satisfactorily! __________________ - Kez, P.E.

06-18-2002, 10:53 PM	#80
kcchief19 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 21	Subby hit exactly what I was going to point out. Further investigation showed that Atlanta and Milwaukee were edited and that a player from Milwaukee was edited and traded to Atlanta, although Milwaukee had no owner and the trade was never posted. The only way for the conspiracy theory to work is that one of the two other people that had the server password had to: (1) edit players on both teams; (2) transfer a player from one team to another; and (3) get lucky in that the commissioner for some bizarre reason would download the league to his hard drive, thus overwriting the master copy on his hard drive. That's quite a leap. Even after Andreas' posts, I'm still fuzzy on the resolution. If we want to dissolve the league and get our order IDs freed, what is the process? After this, I doubt I'll ever play in online league again. As long as HM doesn't get server space with my ID, I really don't care what happens to the league.