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glb2687 · 07-13-2014, 09:12 PM

Hi Sebastian,

Currently playing as GM/Coach of Kolner Wale in DL. I am currently in my 9th year and am noticing that all teams except mine are playing without the minimum of 2 (at least 19 y.o.) prospects. If I try and set my roster without it give me the warning message.

Just curious if this has been noticed as a problem,

Thanks

Sabres2000 · 07-14-2014, 11:46 AM

question other fhm fans... since i have bought the game on feb 8th... has anything changed in the game since then or no?

Orioles1966 · 07-14-2014, 11:54 AM

Editing may have gotten worse. Don't recall what it was like back in Feb. Stopped playing until expansion or fulltime editing is available.

Sebastian Palkowski · 07-14-2014, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Orioles1966

Editing may have gotten worse. Don't recall what it was like back in Feb. Stopped playing until expansion or fulltime editing is available.

Editing is not broken, we just have another vision about the game then you. So I fear you will not be happy with our changes to 2015 either. Just want to be upfront about it early.

mgom27 · 07-14-2014, 06:20 PM

Editing Rosters turned back on?

Orioles1966 · 07-14-2014, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mgom27

Editing Rosters turned back on?

Editing isn't important.

Everyone playing the exact same league with the same teams with the exact same players with the exact same results are very important.

Kalmah · 07-14-2014, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Orioles1966

Editing isn't important.

Everyone playing the exact same league with the same teams with the exact same players with the exact same results are very important.

Editing isn't broken, it works fine. But we're going to disable it because we have a different vision of the game then you do. :^)

07-15-2014, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Orioles1966

Editing isn't important.

Everyone playing the exact same league with the same teams with the exact same players with the exact same results are very important.

Just like in Football Manager. Now I see why FM is so boring.

Sebastian Palkowski · 07-15-2014, 05:06 AM

What you write is just not true, you are just not happy we don't build exactly the game you want. I'm sorry that you have a different vision off your perfect game but we don't make a game for a single person, we try to make a game that as many people as possible enjoy.

I will repeat it a last time for you: we will continue to support customization in FHM. We will limit the edit options in an attempt to make the game more stable and the experience for the mass off users more enjoyable.

So basically, we want FHM to be a game (like FM or EHM) with some (more realistic) customization (e.g. expansion, single team-moves, team renames, salary cap changes, small rule changes, ...), not a toolkit a user can use to build it's on world (what we learned is much harder in a complex world like the hockey one).

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Originally Posted by Orioles1966

Editing isn't important.

Everyone playing the exact same league with the same teams with the exact same players with the exact same results are very important.

Aliean · 07-15-2014, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Palkowski

I will repeat it a last time for you: we will continue to support customization in FHM. We will limit the edit options in an attempt to make the game more stable and the experience for the mass off users more enjoyable.

if you are having so much problems getting the game stable why aren't you guys using JIRA?.easy way to track bugs progress and everything

Sebastian Palkowski · 07-15-2014, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliean

if you are having so much problems getting the game stable why aren't you guys using JIRA?.easy way to track bugs progress and everything

It is not the question what bug tracking software we use.

I think (hopefully, maybe it is lost in translation?) I explained it in depth what our thinking is about this topic. I just don't want people to get their hopes up for specific features that we will not add in the near future. I don't write this to make some user feel upset, I just want to be completely honest, an answer like "maybe we will add it at some point" will help nobody. Hope people understand that.

Aliean · 07-15-2014, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Palkowski

It is not the question what bug tracking software we use.

isn't it? i thought you where talking about the crashing issue with the editing as you where talking about making the game more stable

Sebastian Palkowski · 07-15-2014, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliean

isn't it? i thought you where talking about the crashing issue with the editing as you where talking about making the game more stable

It isn't.

We use a bug tracking tool (not JIRA), my explanation above goes into another direction.

julius · 07-15-2014, 09:15 AM

I notice that in the list of editing functions that you say you plan to support going forward, editing players and their attributes is not included. Surely you don't intend this? I couldn't imagine a text based simulator not being able to handle this most basic level of customization. Perhaps I have misunderstood the context...

Sebastian Palkowski · 07-15-2014, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by julius

I notice that in the list of editing functions that you say you plan to support going forward, editing players and their attributes is not included. Surely you don't intend this? I couldn't imagine a text based simulator not being able to handle this most basic level of customization. Perhaps I have misunderstood the context...

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Palkowski

(e.g. expansion, single team-moves, team renames, salary cap changes, small rule changes, ...)

I listed a few examples. Changing ratings for player works now and should continue to be available. But as far as I know in FM you can't officially edit player ratings in a running game, right (you need a 3rd party savegame editor), just curios (makes no difference for FHM)?

Aliean · 07-15-2014, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Palkowski

I listed a few examples. Changing ratings for player works now and should continue to be available. But as far as I know in FM you can't officially edit player ratings in a running game, right (you need a 3rd party savegame editor), just curios (makes no difference for FHM)?

Fm has made their own in game editor

Sebastian Palkowski · 07-15-2014, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliean

Fm has made their own in game editor

Ah, cool. Thx for the info, never saw it. Next time I play I will look out for the editor.

dave1927p · 07-15-2014, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Palkowski

Ah, cool. Thx for the info, never saw it. Next time I play I will look out for the editor.

they charge additional for their in game editor. What a joke that is...OOTP, don't get any bright ideas

Sebastian Palkowski · 07-15-2014, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dave1927p

they charge additional for their in game editor. What a joke that is...OOTP, don't get any bright ideas

Ok, thats the reason I don't know the in-game editor. You can't buy FM in Germany, I always get the game through a promo-code and it does not include the editor.

julius · 07-15-2014, 01:27 PM

Thanks for clarifying that player ratings/attributes will remain editable (phew!). FM does have a saved-game editor, where almost everything can be edited, but it is a bit unwieldy. OOTP 15 makes in-game editing very easy (in commissioner mode) so I am hoping for something more along those lines for FHM.

07-13-2014, 09:12 PM	#101
glb2687 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 54	Roster violation of League rules Hi Sebastian, Currently playing as GM/Coach of Kolner Wale in DL. I am currently in my 9th year and am noticing that all teams except mine are playing without the minimum of 2 (at least 19 y.o.) prospects. If I try and set my roster without it give me the warning message. Just curious if this has been noticed as a problem, Thanks

07-14-2014, 06:20 PM	#105
mgom27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,520	Editing Rosters turned back on? __________________ Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

07-14-2014, 11:46 AM	#102
Sabres2000 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 964	question other fhm fans... since i have bought the game on feb 8th... has anything changed in the game since then or no?

07-14-2014, 11:54 AM	#103
Orioles1966 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,869	Editing may have gotten worse. Don't recall what it was like back in Feb. Stopped playing until expansion or fulltime editing is available.

07-15-2014, 09:15 AM	#114
julius Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 66	I notice that in the list of editing functions that you say you plan to support going forward, editing players and their attributes is not included. Surely you don't intend this? I couldn't imagine a text based simulator not being able to handle this most basic level of customization. Perhaps I have misunderstood the context...

07-15-2014, 01:27 PM	#120
julius Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 66	Thanks for clarifying that player ratings/attributes will remain editable (phew!). FM does have a saved-game editor, where almost everything can be edited, but it is a bit unwieldy. OOTP 15 makes in-game editing very easy (in commissioner mode) so I am hoping for something more along those lines for FHM.