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You also seem to have no idea what the tax authorities over here would do if no tax returns are filed. Write a not too strongly worded letter, then sit on their hands the rest of the day. What would the inept business owner do with that letter, if he opens it at all? So, there is tax revenue precisely because of people like me, battling resisting clients, misguided tax authorities, my own employer, and fielding these uneducated shots from the cheap seats all day. I am glad I could enlighten you about that. I'll now remove myself from this thread.
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You earned your first thanks for this. It's nice to see someone else "sharing my thoughts." I thought it sounded familiar (post #13).
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I don’t ever get involved in these kind of debates but some of the posts here are so effing stupid and ridiculous that I just had too.
They’re entertainers, no different then someone going to a concert watching someone preform, staying up late to watch your favorite talk show. Might as well throw in actors into this as well. They all get paid big money and many people who aren’t in any of those fields are just salty and jealous they are either not one or don’t make the money they make. How do any of the above “contribute to society” as “art” does?... Point is while watching someone play video games on a streaming service is not my thing I don’t sit here and bash people on how they make their money. These kids are smart, capitalizing on ways to earn millions without much risk or damage to their bodies etc. I am a little jealous even? Heck yeah, I wish I could stay home and game for serious money all day but I don’t go so far to be so salty as some here and down play them with names and telling them to “get a real job”. I have what some you consider “a real job” and make good money, but I have no shame in what these kids are doing. For the actual topic of that article I don’t have remorse for that particular kid though, he cheated, was caught and has to deal with the repercussions. As someone here noted, these kids know about these aimbot things and that they’re illegal.... kids these days are much smarter and less naive he knew what he was doing and now is paying for it. Not much sympathy for him. I guess that means he has to “go get a real job” (sarcasm).
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I thought it was a bot.
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It was a benevolent bot, if so.
@Hockey13Playa, since your post immediately follows my bot re-post, I tend to think that it was what I re-said that caused you to cry out against "effing stupid and ridiculous" opinions. Here's the thing, plain and simple: No matter how much unwise and unearned freedom that we grant children these days, yielding to the pressure of society and our own laziness, they lack the wisdom and emotional maturity to handle the type of situation that prompted this thread. You think they can, but you are wrong. Children are being harmed by laissez-faire attitudes such as yours.
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Kids and teenagers (maybe the vast majority of adults) aren't equipped to handle that level of...wealth? freedom? power? Is the answer to say that people can't earn that much money? Obvious question is "how much?". And "at what age?" Venn Diagram: People who think it's obscene that kids can earn more than an allowance by playing video games, or performing, or whatever and people who think that "punishing" billionaires with increased taxes is unamerican. |
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Child actors are notorious for having major issues, from financial to emotional to psychological (whether it's more anecdotal than statistically correlated, I don't know). But I imagine most under 18 are more likely to rent a mansion than buy a house while partying large chunks of it away, confusing being rich for being wealthy .... but again, anecdotal? I assume most complaints about people making large sums of money from playing video games are due to jealously or finding it confusing why so many teachers need second jobs in the summer while playing video games makes others wealthy, or something along those lines of unfairness Last edited by ezpkns34; 12-14-2019 at 04:27 PM. Reason: complaints |
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Release of “13 Reasons Why” Associated with Increase in Youth Suicide Rates https://www.nimh.nih.gov/news/scienc...de-rates.shtml Depression and Suicide Rates Are Rising Sharply in Young Americans, New Report Says. https://time.com/5550803/depression-...e-rates-youth/ What’s behind the rise in youth suicides? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/suicide...s-behind-rise/ Teen suicide is on the rise and this is why https://theconversation.com/teen-sui...s-is-why-83563 You tell me why a 17-year-old, almost 18 at the time, can be this distraught: Other than too much pressure for too high stakes at too young an age. Social and perhaps family pressure to earn thousands and thousands of dollars at 17 years old, and failing, and falling into despair because the emotional maturity is not there yet. You tell me what's wrong with this picture otherwise. Can some kids handle it? Of course. Are many kids incapable? Of course again. Time was, we would send children much younger than this out to work to support themselves and their families. And the system would grind many of them down into nothing. The difference is, they were hardly noticed back then. Now we are watching.
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Deja, I understand the point you are trying to make. But there is one factor you are forgetting: This kid would be bawling if he had to deal with any kind of discipline.
Because this is the factor modern parents don't get: You better discipline your kids now, while they are in your care and w/the love you feel for them. Or you can wait for their first discipline to come from people, authorities or entities that don't give a flip about them because they are case #67A-47. The problem is not the millions. The problems is the lack of discipline in this kid's life. I see it all the time in the peds office I work. I told a kindergarten teacher friend of mine that I pray for her profession @ the start of every school year. Because I know every September she & other teachers are going to be the first in a child's life to ever tell them "no." Too many parents want to shield their kids from any disappointment, any setback, any self-control, any discomfort. If they got a bad grade, well the teacher hates them. If they don't win the game, the other kid cheated. If they have to stay after class, the principal is prejudiced. They let their kids bargain their way out of any thing they don't like. Food, chores, etc. When they come in my office, I can tell the kids who somehow think there is always going to be an out and those that know they ain't getting away from it. Those are the kids that grow up to be dysfunctional adults and drive up suicide rates. Because they can't handle life. Because their parents never allowed them to learn how to deal with life. There is a reason why the Williams' sisters became strong women while the Jennifer Capriatis burned out. Because Venus and Serena had parents that didn't baby their girls when they were no longer babies. They got them ready for the real world. This kid is bawling because for the first time he is not getting what he wanted and mommy and daddy can't fix it for him. The dollars did not create this spoiled immature brat. His parents reaped what they sowed and got a frikkin' bumper crop.
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He's bawling because the video is an act.
When you are a professional streamer/youtuber/instagrammer etc absolutely everything you put online is a performance and part of the persona you are selling. Not gonna bother reading the whole thread but expecting it's just more hilarity where adults who watch other adults play sports for millions of dollars somehow think it is absurd that kids like to watch other kids play video games. Successful internet figures put a TON of work into it. You know how many people think "wow I can make money playing video games I'm gonna do it"? There is no barrier to entry at all, yet a mere hundreds of people are truly successful out of everyone thinking they can do it. Last edited by dkgo; 12-17-2019 at 08:51 AM. |
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This isn't about his parents per se. This is about society and the pressure it applies to all kids and parents and that is a collective phenomenon for which we all bear some responsibility to some degree or another.
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If it is, then he's in the wrong line of business.
Look, this thread started out as a commentary on how odd it is to see an act of cheating being severely punished for what is now known as "professional" video gaming. It devolved, however, into a commentary on whether minors should be even allowed to place themselves in a high-stakes, high-pressure situation like this. It's a rhetorical question because nobody here, including me, thinks in the slightest that anything official will be applied to ameliorate this. After all, it's good business. What this thread might do, though, is to encourage parents to monitor their children's activities more closely and to steer them away from this type of emotional distress if possible. There are reasons, as I alluded to before, why teenage suicide rates keep climbing. Heh, I know I said "my final say" earlier. I don't know why I keep coming back here. Maybe because I take that kid at face value and I feel bad for him.
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Cheating is being punished the way it always has been. You get banned from the game. That just has much higher stakes for some people.
People keep talking as if he is ten years old. He is 18. What do you mean by something "official" to be applied? Like a law preventing teenagers from earning money by entertaining? And "ameliorate" what? Teenagers aren't allowed to be in "high stakes high pressure situations?" Does that apply to actors or Olympians or just internet celebrities? Gabby Douglas was 16 when she won a gold medal. Maybe we also shouldn't let people in their 20s play football because it's so high stakes and stressful that Josh Gordon can't help but keep doing drugs. Last edited by dkgo; 12-17-2019 at 10:18 AM. |
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