Trade help?

Tyler87898 · 08-14-2013, 12:16 AM

So I'm making a big trade, and I'm giving up one of my SPs to help seal the deal. It's between Michael Wacha and this other guy named Brett Marshall. Which one should I keep?

Tyler87898 · 08-14-2013, 12:44 AM

Pics here, sorry for them being ultra big!

Tyler87898 · 08-14-2013, 01:02 AM

I'm worried about if Marshall's WAR will get higher, if I extrapolate his first 17 starts to 34, then he has about 3.6 WAR, but then again, he's going to improve, so I think he'll get better.

Wacha's WAR is nice, control is pretty great, but his stuff and movement is just slightly above average.

I'm not going to use only WAR to decide...

Ts-Rock · 08-14-2013, 01:24 AM

this is an easy one...trade Marshall. Wacha's control is great, he's younger and has a higher ceiling.

Remember Gregg Maddux didn't have elite "stuff", but his control and movement were unchallenged. I personally will choose control over stuff all day.

RonP · 08-14-2013, 02:50 AM

It does suck to lose behind a bunch of bases on balls.

MizzouRah · 08-14-2013, 01:34 PM

Tyler87898 · 08-14-2013, 11:43 PM

Ok, I kept Wacha.

Ts-Rock · 08-15-2013, 01:15 AM

and no report of what you got for Marshall?

Tyler87898 · 08-15-2013, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ts-Rock

and no report of what you got for Marshall?

I'll post tomorrow (goin' to bed). I can tell you that I got 2 stud prospects (#1 prospect and #46) who looks like they will be big stars. The #46 spec is a LF/RF that is ready for the bigs and the #1 is a very great looking catcher (at least in my MLB). But I also had to give up some more very nice players to get them.

Tyler87898 · 08-15-2013, 12:26 PM

Who I received (ratings out of 100):

RF Danry Vasquez, former #46 prospect (not a rookie anymore, played half a season in MLB). My scout says his potential ratings are: contact - 85, power - 78, eye - 70 with above average defense at LF and RF with good avoid K potential (67) and 50 speed.

C Clint Coulter, #1 prospect, currently in AAA, potential 77 contact, 85 power, 73 eye. Good avoid K (66).

I will say that besides Marshall, I had to give up a potential 4th outfield Austin Dean (may have eventually won a starting job but doubt it), a very good CF prospect David Dahl (a top spec) and some crappy outfielder and SP. I feel like a payed a hefty price, but I feel that Vasquez and Coulter will help me more in the long run.

soxfan34 · 08-15-2013, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Waka Flocka?

View Poll Results: Which one should I keep?
Wacha	14	77.78%
Marshall	4	22.22%
Voters: 18. You may not vote on this poll

08-14-2013, 12:44 AM	#2
Tyler87898 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 791	Pics here, sorry for them being ultra big! Attached Images Last edited by Tyler87898; 08-14-2013 at 12:45 AM.

08-14-2013, 01:02 AM	#3
Tyler87898 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 791	I'm worried about if Marshall's WAR will get higher, if I extrapolate his first 17 starts to 34, then he has about 3.6 WAR, but then again, he's going to improve, so I think he'll get better. Wacha's WAR is nice, control is pretty great, but his stuff and movement is just slightly above average. I'm not going to use only WAR to decide... Last edited by Tyler87898; 08-14-2013 at 12:39 PM.

08-15-2013, 01:15 AM	#8
Ts-Rock Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: H'ville - Home of 6x BSA World Series Champion Posts: 319	and no report of what you got for Marshall? __________________ Hendersonville Hitmen of the BSA 5x WS Champ (2010, 2013-15, 2017) 5x OOTY (2010-11, 2013-14, 2017) 2010 114-48, World Series Champions 2011 109-53, 1st Rd Loss to N.F. 2012. 96-66, 1st Rd Loss to L.A. 2013 112-50, World Series Champions 2014 119-43, World Series Champions 2015 124-38, World Series Champions 2016 111-51, LCS Loss to L.A. 2017 110-52, World Series Champions 2018 101-61, 1st Rd Loss to Baffin Island 2019. 98-64, LCS Loss to Baffin Island 2020 103-59,

08-14-2013, 12:16 AM	#1
Tyler87898 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 791	Trade help? So I'm making a big trade, and I'm giving up one of my SPs to help seal the deal. It's between Michael Wacha and this other guy named Brett Marshall. Which one should I keep? Last edited by Tyler87898; 08-14-2013 at 01:03 AM.

08-14-2013, 01:24 AM	#4
Ts-Rock Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: H'ville - Home of 6x BSA World Series Champion Posts: 319	this is an easy one...trade Marshall. Wacha's control is great, he's younger and has a higher ceiling. Remember Gregg Maddux didn't have elite "stuff", but his control and movement were unchallenged. I personally will choose control over stuff all day. __________________ Hendersonville Hitmen of the BSA 5x WS Champ (2010, 2013-15, 2017) 5x OOTY (2010-11, 2013-14, 2017) 2010 114-48, World Series Champions 2011 109-53, 1st Rd Loss to N.F. 2012. 96-66, 1st Rd Loss to L.A. 2013 112-50, World Series Champions 2014 119-43, World Series Champions 2015 124-38, World Series Champions 2016 111-51, LCS Loss to L.A. 2017 110-52, World Series Champions 2018 101-61, 1st Rd Loss to Baffin Island 2019. 98-64, LCS Loss to Baffin Island 2020 103-59,

08-14-2013, 02:50 AM	#5
RonP Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 226	It does suck to lose behind a bunch of bases on balls.

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08-14-2013, 11:43 PM	#7
Tyler87898 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 791	Ok, I kept Wacha.

08-15-2013, 12:26 PM	#10
Tyler87898 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 791	Who I received (ratings out of 100): RF Danry Vasquez, former #46 prospect (not a rookie anymore, played half a season in MLB). My scout says his potential ratings are: contact - 85, power - 78, eye - 70 with above average defense at LF and RF with good avoid K potential (67) and 50 speed. C Clint Coulter, #1 prospect, currently in AAA, potential 77 contact, 85 power, 73 eye. Good avoid K (66). I will say that besides Marshall, I had to give up a potential 4th outfield Austin Dean (may have eventually won a starting job but doubt it), a very good CF prospect David Dahl (a top spec) and some crappy outfielder and SP. I feel like a payed a hefty price, but I feel that Vasquez and Coulter will help me more in the long run.