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03-31-2020, 10:41 PM | #1 |
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Predictions on how this guy turns out....
What do we think? Stuff is off the charts, but obviously the concern is him ever getting passed the control and movement issues. Anything I can do to help him along? Really curious to see what happens here...
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03-31-2020, 10:55 PM | #2 |
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From the best of my understanding, load up your minors w/ Finesse and Groundball Pitching coaches.
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04-01-2020, 12:20 AM | #3 |
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04-01-2020, 03:24 AM | #4 |
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04-01-2020, 03:26 AM | #5 |
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Please update with his stats I'm curious too
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04-01-2020, 03:30 AM | #6 |
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with that control i dont see how he can possibly be a starter could be good as a long reliever though
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04-01-2020, 05:53 AM | #7 |
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No chance. He is 22 already soon 23. Maybe if he was 16.
His control will never improve. You would have to pray to the random number generator gods. Control almost never improves from the minimum. Its a fluke when it does. If he has movement he could setup or close. But I've seen plenty he is going to be a "never was". |
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04-01-2020, 07:40 AM | #9 |
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I had a fairly similar pitcher have one heck of a career. He came within 50 K's of 3000 for his career which is pretty impressive for a league where he got 26 starts per season. Note he had much better stamina than your guy though.
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04-01-2020, 09:20 AM | #10 |
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Why is he at A+ level? Those ratings are based on MLB players. That alone will stunt his development. How do you learn control pitching to guys that, for the most part, swing at lots of pitches out of the zone? AA or AAA and see what he can do is where I would go. If you have a finesse PC at either of these levels that's even better. He's also getting a spring training invite and 20 innings so I can take a close look and see for myself.
With that stuff and pitch quality just the slightest increase in control and he could be at least good. Flyball- movement combo is one I really like to avoid. Add in the walks of low control and it's a recipe for 2 run dingers. However.... with this stuff and pitch quality he could K his way out of a lot a bad situations. I don't know if he could overcome that 30 control but if it does improve to 40 I think he might stick, again, relying on stuff and pitches. The low control though will push up pitch counts so stamina could wreck a bullpen on bad days where he throws a 100 pitches in just 4 innings. Definitely the kind of guy I draft in later rounds based on tools. Just lacking a high work ethic but at least he's not lazy. Give him time and get him a PC with the right focus, wait and hope |
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04-01-2020, 10:59 AM | #12 | |
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I'd want to look at his actual walk rates, but no, this guy is probably never going to be a consistent MLB pitcher unless your scout is badly wrong. But he should also be in AA to find out.
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It is only my thought, not game proven by any means, but I think his power game is quite well established. I would try pairing with a finesse PC and hope his control would build towards that 40 pot. Again, just my opinion but striking out guys at A+ that swing at balls a foot over their head (slight exaggeration) won't help. Put him in a league with guys that have some discipline and make him find the zone. That may have no real affect in OOTP but one thing that does is he is a man among boys at A+ and not being challenged. In OOTP that can mean stagnation. |
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