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[DeweyintheHall]

While looking into Yankees history (yes - Yankees' history incorporating the 1901-02 Orioles, thank you very much Baseball Reference), I came across this image from Digital Ballparks which that site associates with the 1901 Orioles. Can anyone tell whether this is in fact an image of that team, and if so perchance help with player identification. I tend to doubt it's of the 1901 team as I cannot locate McGraw, Robinson, Williams, etc.

On the same subject, I am interested in images of the aforementioned McGraw, Robinson and Williams (an earlier post seems to have established that an image of Williams with the O's is in reality Williams with the Highlanders), and also Cy Seymour and Harry Howell with the 1901 or 1902 O's. There are some floating around variously indicating them with the Orioles, but they always seem to be the 1890s version of the team.

Thanks!

[RUKen]

Originally Posted by DeweyintheHall

I came across this image from Digital Ballparks which that site associates with the 1901 Orioles. Can anyone tell whether this is in fact an image of that team, and if so perchance help with player identification. I tend to doubt it's of the 1901 team as I cannot locate McGraw, Robinson, Williams, etc.

On the same subject, I am interested in images of the aforementioned McGraw, Robinson and Williams (an earlier post seems to have established that an image of Williams with the O's is in reality Williams with the Highlanders), and also Cy Seymour and Harry Howell with the 1901 or 1902 O's. There are some floating around variously indicating them with the Orioles, but they always seem to be the 1890s version of the team. Thanks!

The posted photo is definitely NOT the 1901 (or 1902) Orioles. It is the Eastern League team, probably from 1910 or later (when the no-collar uniforms became popular).


Here are some images of McGraw and Robinson with the AL Orioles and one of the whole team in 1901:

[DeweyintheHall]

Thanks so much...this is great. I can recognize several players. You don't happen to have a key to all of their IDs, do you?

Also, very curious that there's someone in the center with a New York uniform on...what can we make of that, considering what happened the next year?

[RUKen]

Originally Posted by DeweyintheHall

Thanks so much...this is great. I can recognize several players. You don't happen to have a key to all of their IDs, do you? Also, very curious that there's someone in the center with a New York uniform on...what can we make of that, considering what happened the next year?

'Sorry, I don't have a key. Wilbert Robinson is in the back row, far right. I believe Jimmy Williams is in the back row, third from left. John McGraw is in the middle row, fourth from left. Just to the right of McGraw is Roger Bresnahan, and I believe that just to the left of McGraw is Cy Seymour. It was common in the early 20th century for players to wear their uniform from the previous season during spring training, and Seymour had played for the Giants 1896-1900. Most of his teammates have their Baltimore uniforms, so perhaps Seymour had just joined the Orioles when the photo was taken.

[RUKen]

Originally Posted by RUKen

The posted photo is definitely NOT the 1901 (or 1902) Orioles. It is the Eastern League team, probably from 1910 or later (when the no-collar uniforms became popular).

Getting back to this photo, it looks to me like Jack Dunn is in the middle row, fourth from left, and that Jimmy Slagle is in the middle row, far left.
If I am correct, then that narrows this image down to 1909 or 1910.


Slagle?

[cinemaodyssey]

Here are player/manager Wilbert Robinson and pitcher Harry Howell from the 1902 Orioles.

[cinemaodyssey]

Here are Aleck Smith and Herm McFarland from the 1902 Orioles.

[dennis_keith]

Since 1978, The Phillies have elected 40 people in the last 41 years to their Wall Of Fame, including 34 players, 2 executives, 2 managers, 1 coach and 1 broadcaster. Here are my choices for the individuals that merit this honor and are at present conspicuous by their absence from the Phillies Wall Of Fame

[dennis_keith]

The two best player candidates are BOBBY ABREU and JIM KONSTANTY and the best non-player candidate is DANNY OZARK.
Abreu had a nine year tenure with the Phillies (1998-2006). He had six .300 seasons in Philadelphia with a career high of .337 in 1999. His final career numbers WHEN HE RETIRED AFTER THE 2014 SEASON AFTER 18 MLB SEASONS, showed a batting average in the mid-.290s and he was a power and speed threat, hitting 288 home runs with 400 stolen bases. About 2/3 of these numbers were accomplished in a Phillies uniform.
Konstanty's case is unique because how many players have ever been their league's Most Valuable Player, who are not in their team's Hall Of Fame? My guess is just one: Konstanty. He was the National League's Most Valuable Player in 1950, where he went 16-7 , all in relief and helped propel the Phillies to their first National League title in 35 years.. Konstanty set the record for relief wins in 1950 and it has only been topped once since (Pittsburgh's Elroy Face went 18-1 in 1959). One year (1953) the Phillies had several injured starting pitchers and Konstanty was rushed into the rotation, despite not having started a game for many years. He responded with a creditable
14-10 record. There's no question that his seven year stint with the Phillies (1948-1954) was the high point of Konstanty's career and he has been overlooked and bypassed for the Phillies Wall Of Fame honor for far too long.
Jim Konstanty (left) and Bobby Abreu (right).

[dennis_keith]

Danny Ozark took over a last-place team in 1973 that had finished with a .378 winning percentage the year before. By 1975 the Phillies were a contender and the following year (1976) Ozark managed the Phillies to their first first-place finish since 1950. Two record setting years would follow as Ozark-managed teams would set the franchise record for Wins and winning percentage. The Phillies finished with scintillating 101-61 records in both 1977 and 1978. (since then, Topped once by the Charlie Manuel-managed 2011 team at 102-60.) Ozark's overall 594-510 record with a .538 winning percentage over seven seasons (1973-1979), is one of the finest career managerial records in Phillies franchise history. Ozark passed away in 2009 at age 85.

[rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com]

Hello. On the 1937 Brooklyn Dodgers. Was the Green Uni's for only that year?

[Dto7]

Originally Posted by DeweyintheHall

While looking into Yankees history (yes - Yankees' history incorporating the 1901-02 Orioles, thank you very much Baseball Reference), I came across this image from Digital Ballparks which that site associates with the 1901 Orioles. Can anyone tell whether this is in fact an image of that team, and if so perchance help with player identification. I tend to doubt it's of the 1901 team as I cannot locate McGraw, Robinson, Williams, etc.

On the same subject, I am interested in images of the aforementioned McGraw, Robinson and Williams (an earlier post seems to have established that an image of Williams with the O's is in reality Williams with the Highlanders), and also Cy Seymour and Harry Howell with the 1901 or 1902 O's. There are some floating around variously indicating them with the Orioles, but they always seem to be the 1890s version of the team.

Thanks!

It's the Baltimore Orioles minor league team, former New York Highlander pitcher Doc Adkins is the 4th player from the right in the middle row.

[brobby05]

Originally Posted by Cusick

It's pitcher Jim MacDonnell, who was a non-roster invitee with the White Sox to their spring camp in 1972. The same photo was posted on either this thread or the minor league thread in December of 2015. I can't get back to it easily, because the URL's for OOTP have been re-set since that time.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=macdon003jam

P.S. Just took the time to browse through the OOTP December, 2015 postings, and found the previous display of the MacDonnell photo. Turns out that it was placed by the banned rico45. I still believe it was a valid identification. See the following webpage on the minor league thread.

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...216619&page=54

Thanks a million for your info. I'm still cataloging all those photos that I didn't use right away but now I'm going through the minor leagues of those 3 seasons that I'd created for MVP baseball 2005 for myself, 71, 74 & 83.


Thanks a million for the help!


BRobby05

[Expos 1969-2004]

Robert "Bobby" Reeves (June 24, 1904 – June 4, 1993) was an infielder who played from 1926 through 1928 for the Washington Senators.

Picture actually on sale on eBay by seller ajsportscards7 https://www.cafr.ebay.ca/itm/Old-Bas...sAAOSwlQ9bdciP

[Expos 1969-2004]

Left-handed pitcher Clint Compton major-league career consisted of a two-inning appearance during the Cubs' October 3, 1972 game against the Philadelphia Phillies.

[DeweyintheHall]

Looking for anything of Allen Russell with the Yankees, 1915-1919.

[cinemaodyssey]

Facepack upgrade, pictured with the 1904 Phillies. I always like it when they pose wearing their hats.

[cinemaodyssey]

Facepack upgrade, replacing the old and stretched out B&W version.

[Marisfor HOF]

All I have with the Yankees. Have a couple more with Washington. Not sure about the team in the third photo. No idea where these came from.