Killing off owners

[NakedReporta]

So this I've always wondered about ...


Ever since the MLB contract, no drug suspensions. But an owner can just drop dead. How does OOTP get away with that? You'd think they'd have to do something kinder, like sell the team, or announce that they're turning operations over to the next generation with immediate effect. But no. They just die. How'd you get MLB to sign off on that? No players are getting arbitrarily killed? Career-ending injuries and quitting baseball to become shaolin monks, yes, but not dropping dead.


Anyway, please make Fred Wilpon selling the Mets an early feature of the 2020 season. Thanks.

[mgom27]

Or add like Strikes in Game where like Replacement guys are used intill a new Collective Bargaining Deal can be accepted.

[Cryomaniac]

IIRC the drug suspensions thing is due to MLBPA, not MLB.

And also IIRC it doesn't apply to fictional leagues.

[slugga27]

Two sure things in life: death and taxes. You shouldn’t have an owner living for 300 years...


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[Déjà Bru]

An interesting question. I play only fictionally, so I don't know: In an MLB game, are the owners real, like managers, coaches, and players? Because it is rather odd that they would be the only ones to be mortal.

But I can certainly see the prohibition on player mortality and drug suspension. Can you imagine? A real player indulges in a bit of OOTPB and sees that the game predicts his passing on May 18, 2042. A bit macabre, don't you think?

I'm even surprised that the game will allow injuries to real players. Sort of a jinx in my mind.

[Buster Cherry]

They all die or sell eventually but it usually takes a long time.

[bailey]

Originally Posted by slugga27

Two sure things in life: death and taxes. You shouldn’t have an owner living for 300 years...


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When was the last time an owner died while owning a team? Usually, they are sold or turned over to the next generation long before. Personally, I'd like to turn the feature OFF.

[Tram2Whitaker]

Originally Posted by bailey

When was the last time an owner died while owning a team? Usually, they are sold or turned over to the next generation long before. Personally, I'd like to turn the feature OFF.

Mr. I died, and left the Tigers to his son, in the midst of a rebuild. Got a lot of folks in Detroit angry. OOTP XX used real owners, but was really inconsistent about it. In several playthroughs however, there were team sales; albeit not as frequent as owners dying and the team transferring to Jr.

[G-Force]

When I saw this title I assumed it came from a Mets fan

GH

[slugga27]

Originally Posted by bailey

When was the last time an owner died while owning a team? Usually, they are sold or turned over to the next generation long before. Personally, I'd like to turn the feature OFF.

Tom Yawkey is my first thought. I’m not disagreeing with you, though. Generally, control is transitioned well beforehand.


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[Bluenoser]

Unexpected/sudden Owner death should occur about once every 50 - 75 years, not annually.

[Rain King]

I'd prefer that they just say another owner has taken over (i.e. current owner's son John Smith Jr. has now taken over day-to-day operations) or something, but it's not something I'm particularly bothered by.

[HRBaker]

Not that it's a big deal either way, but I would welcome a routine for fictional leagues to at least calculate a death-date for all the characters in the game. It's disorienting to look up a past players and find that he's 150 years old. There doesn't have to be any stories - just a date.

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by HRBaker

Not that it's a big deal either way, but I would welcome a routine for fictional leagues to at least calculate a death-date for all the characters in the game. It's disorienting to look up a past players and find that he's 150 years old. There doesn't have to be any stories - just a date.

I agree with this; for fictional leagues only, of course. There ought to be a way to work this in for such and not for MLB.

[Rain King]

I just don't see the need to calculate their age once they have retired. Just hide the Age field from the front-end at that point.

[BirdWatcher]

Originally Posted by HRBaker

Not that it's a big deal either way, but I would welcome a routine for fictional leagues to at least calculate a death-date for all the characters in the game. It's disorienting to look up a past players and find that he's 150 years old. There doesn't have to be any stories - just a date.

I'd even be happy if there was a date of death field in the player editor page that could be manually accessed in commissioner mode, even if the game didn't ever initiate former player deaths in fictional leagues.
I personally use an analog system to identify player deaths (including cause of death) in my primary fictional save and I'd love to be able to add this information into the game manually.

[BigRed75]

When I had owner deaths in my long-term MLB dynasty, I just edited the news story to be sales (or turnover to relatives) instead.

For example, I turned the Orioles over to John Angelos, since it's pretty apparent that he will be taking over the team one day. But I sold the White Sox since none of Reinsdorf's family appear to have any interest in running the club.

Same with expansion - I changed the generic names of the owners to real-life people who would realistically have a chance to own a club (Kenneth Feld in Orlando and Don Beaver in Charlotte - this was before David Tepper arrived on the scene).

[AKAthatoneguy]

I personally wouldn't mind if we got a little Universal Baseball Association with it and could have fictional players die at random ages, and very rarely during their playing days or due to on-field events.

I want to emulate Robert Coover's classic novel by having my life spiral out of control and into total madness after my prized prospect is killed by a bean ball.

[Cryomaniac]

Originally Posted by BigRed75

When I had owner deaths in my long-term MLB dynasty, I just edited the news story to be sales (or turnover to relatives) instead.

For example, I turned the Orioles over to John Angelos, since it's pretty apparent that he will be taking over the team one day. But I sold the White Sox since none of Reinsdorf's family appear to have any interest in running the club.

Same with expansion - I changed the generic names of the owners to real-life people who would realistically have a chance to own a club (Kenneth Feld in Orlando and Don Beaver in Charlotte - this was before David Tepper arrived on the scene).

I'm now imagining Elon Musk owning an expansion team. Or Vince MacMahon

[dave1927p]

Originally Posted by Rain King

I just don't see the need to calculate their age once they have retired. Just hide the Age field from the front-end at that point.

I wouldn't want the age hidden . Perhaps changing the field to read "Born 153 years ago" instead of "Age" for all retired players...that's how I view it now in my mind when playing.

An optional death feature for fictional leagues would be neat but I'd also like to be able to escape death and turn it off.