Everyone is Yellow

Bobfather · 08-08-2016, 02:37 AM

Everyone of my ML relievers has been yellow for 2 days, even ones I have not used. I just got one back from DL so he is fine. But the problem is even my monor league pitchers are tired. I am pretty good at resting my relievers and try not to pitch them on consecutive days. Now sometime today my computer restarted itself so OOTP did not shut properly. Is there anything I can do, or just ride out till naptime?

BeanballComin · 08-08-2016, 03:09 AM

Just off the top to start:
I would look to see how good, (their reputation), the pitching coaches are.
Double Down >> same goes for the team trainer.

bababui · 08-08-2016, 07:43 AM

They are tired because Markus programmed it that way. If the game isn't shut down properly, all pitchers take a tiredness penalty. Its one of the only poorly thought out features in the game.

RchW · 08-08-2016, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bababui

They are tired because Markus programmed it that way. If the game isn't shut down properly, all pitchers take a tiredness penalty. Its one of the only poorly thought out features in the game.

Never seen this issue as you describe it. You may be seeing fatigue as it appears after all games are played but the day has not advanced. That would occur on a "forced exit". However advancing to the next day will cause fatigue to be normal in my experience. What exactly did Markus program?

A screenshot would show this perfectly

philthepat · 08-08-2016, 07:58 AM

Everyone is yellow you say? ..

bababui · 08-08-2016, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RchW

Never seen this issue as you describe it. You may be seeing fatigue as it appears after all games are played but the day has not advanced. That would occur on a "forced exit". However advancing to the next day will cause fatigue to be normal in my experience. What exactly did Markus program?

A screenshot would show this perfectly

Play out a game for an inning or two. Use task manager to close OOTP. Restart OOTP. Look at your starters pitch counts and they won't match up....and they will all be tired.

Bobfather · 08-08-2016, 01:39 PM

Bobfather · 08-08-2016, 01:40 PM

C:\Users\bob\Documents\Out of the Park Developments\OOTP Baseball 17\screenshots

TuckerDuckson · 08-08-2016, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Play out a game for an inning or two. Use task manager to close OOTP. Restart OOTP. Look at your starters pitch counts and they won't match up....and they will all be tired.

That's probably because closing out using task manager doesn't save the game you are currently in, which in turn messes with the game tiredness for pitchers when you boot it up. I think it is you who is messing with it by not finishing the game out.

What you should do is if you don't have time to finish a game, just hit the game tab on the bottom then after it ends, exit OOTP and let it load down to save the game.

bababui · 08-08-2016, 01:43 PM

Doesn't help much during a crash, does it?

TuckerDuckson · 08-08-2016, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Doesn't help much during a crash, does it?

No not really, but you could have said you had to close using Task Manager because of a crash rather than saying "Play out a game for an inning or two. Use task manager to close OOTP. Restart OOTP." Kinda makes the average person infer that you just played the game for a few innings then closed it due to a lack of time using Task Manager. Just saying.

mitchkenn · 08-08-2016, 06:09 PM

Have back-up? A restore from earlier time may help. Dunno. Just a suggestion, which might not be applicable in this case .....

bababui · 08-08-2016, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TuckerDuckson

No not really, but you could have said you had to close using Task Manager because of a crash rather than saying "Play out a game for an inning or two. Use task manager to close OOTP. Restart OOTP." Kinda makes the average person infer that you just played the game for a few innings then closed it due to a lack of time using Task Manager. Just saying.

That was just for experimental purposes. In a game where just about everything is editable, I dont understand this mechanism.

bwburke94 · 08-08-2016, 08:19 PM

Just to clarify why this happens:

OOTP saves fatigue information as it happens, so if the game crashes or you use Task Manager, the pitch count will be counted against fatigue even though the games never happened from OOTP's perspective.

TuckerDuckson · 08-08-2016, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bwburke94

Just to clarify why this happens:

OOTP saves fatigue information as it happens, so if the game crashes or you use Task Manager, the pitch count will be counted against fatigue even though the games never happened from OOTP's perspective.

This is what i was trying to say

TheMaus2 · 10-05-2016, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobfather

Everyone of my ML relievers has been yellow for 2 days, even ones I have not used. I just got one back from DL so he is fine. But the problem is even my monor league pitchers are tired. I am pretty good at resting my relievers and try not to pitch them on consecutive days. Now sometime today my computer restarted itself so OOTP did not shut properly. Is there anything I can do, or just ride out till naptime?

Your relievers must be turning into the Simpsons.

adamj · 10-05-2016, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bwburke94

Just to clarify why this happens:

OOTP saves fatigue information as it happens, so if the game crashes or you use Task Manager, the pitch count will be counted against fatigue even though the games never happened from OOTP's perspective.

Are you sure about this? Just last night, I had the program crash during a game, in the 8th inning. I restarted and was able to use the same SP, with no problem.

Markus Heinsohn · 10-05-2016, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bababui

They are tired because Markus programmed it that way. If the game isn't shut down properly, all pitchers take a tiredness penalty. Its one of the only poorly thought out features in the game.

Hahaha.

Markus Heinsohn · 10-05-2016, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bwburke94

Just to clarify why this happens:

OOTP saves fatigue information as it happens, so if the game crashes or you use Task Manager, the pitch count will be counted against fatigue even though the games never happened from OOTP's perspective.

No, this is wrong. Everything is saved at once.

Rizon · 10-05-2016, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Play out a game for an inning or two. Use task manager to close OOTP. Restart OOTP. Look at your starters pitch counts and they won't match up....and they will all be tired.

I've not seen this in any versions for like .. 12 versions back?

08-08-2016, 02:37 AM	#1
Bobfather All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Boston Ma. Posts: 1,214	Everyone is Yellow Everyone of my ML relievers has been yellow for 2 days, even ones I have not used. I just got one back from DL so he is fine. But the problem is even my monor league pitchers are tired. I am pretty good at resting my relievers and try not to pitch them on consecutive days. Now sometime today my computer restarted itself so OOTP did not shut properly. Is there anything I can do, or just ride out till naptime?

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08-08-2016, 03:09 AM	#2
BeanballComin Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 162	Just off the top to start: I would look to see how good, (their reputation), the pitching coaches are. Double Down >> same goes for the team trainer.

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bwburke94 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belchertown, MA, USA Posts: 4,443	Just to clarify why this happens: OOTP saves fatigue information as it happens, so if the game crashes or you use Task Manager, the pitch count will be counted against fatigue even though the games never happened from OOTP's perspective.