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Old 10-06-2014, 07:05 PM   #1
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Pitcher Rating vs. Stuff/Movement/Control

I did a search for this but, somewhat surprisingly, didn't find anything that seemed to be related.

I get that Stuff is kinda an aggregate of his pitches and velocity; how good he is at changing it up, keeping the batter guessing about what's coming at him.Movement is how the ball moves in the air, how hard it is to hit. Control is how good he is at controlling where the ball actually ends up in relation to the strikezone.

But what does the actual 'Pitcher' rating represent (the one on the left, where a fielder's 1B/2B/SS etc ratings would be)?

I'm struggling to link that to things in reality. What would it mean to have great Stuff, Control and Movement with a good variety of pitches but have low Pitcher rating?

And in a less abstract sense, what would you go for? A guy with a good Pitcher rating but less good S/M/C/pitches ratings? Or a guy with great S/M/C but a Pitcher rating in the 40s/50s (1-100)?
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Old 10-06-2014, 07:17 PM   #2
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Defensive position rating. If good it can help a bit. Are his defensive skills good?

Edit. I'd pay little attention to defense unless it is a tie breaker.
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But what does the actual 'Pitcher' rating represent (the one on the left, where a fielder's 1B/2B/SS etc ratings would be)?
What RchW said. That is a rating of how good he is at fielding his position (responding to bunts, fielding drives back at him, how well he'll move to first base if the 1B is called upon to stop a ball, etc).

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I'm struggling to link that to things in reality. What would it mean to have great Stuff, Control and Movement with a good variety of pitches but have low Pitcher rating?
The guy can pitch, but he's a poor defender.

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And in a less abstract sense, what would you go for? A guy with a good Pitcher rating but less good S/M/C/pitches ratings? Or a guy with great S/M/C but a Pitcher rating in the 40s/50s (1-100)?
S/M/C always. In fact, i don't really pay any attention to Pitcher rating, unless i have two equally good pitchers i want to sign. Even then, i'd usually go with the cheapest
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Old 02-25-2015, 11:23 AM   #4
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So, my 1902 Cincinatti Reds bullpen . . . which one of these guys is my "best pitcher?" (just looking at the aggregate L/R stuff, movement, & control):

Pitcher . . . . . . . . . .STU . . . MOV . . . CON
A. Stimmel . . . . . . . . 51 . . . . 34 . . . . . .49
D. Newton . . . . . . . . 56 . . . . 55 . . . . . .43
N. Hahn . . . . . . . . . . 72 . . . . 30 . . . . . .66
C. Case . . . . . . . . . . 79 . . . . 19 . . . . . .53
A. Ruise . . . . . . . . . . 80 . . . . 40 . . . . . .56
D. Scott . . . . . . . . . . 85 . . . . 01 . . . . . .43
D. Heismann . . . . . . 93 . . . . 27 . . . . . .39
L Swormstedt . . . . . 95 . . . . 07 . . . . . .53

Newton, Hahn and Stimmel all have 100 Stamina. Everyone else is in the 1 to 15 ballpark.

Just based on that, I've set Newton Hahn and Stimmel as my 3 man starting rotation.

Restricting it to those three, I would say that Newton is the strongest (just based on these variables) as he has the least discrepancy between stuff, control and movement. Stimmel comes second and then Hahn?


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