More Historical Players?

[joeswell]

Is there any way to get more historical players into Perfect Game? It seems like 80% of the players in the player card packs are stiffs from 2018. It might be a misperception, but I would think the historical stiffs from the 20's and 30's would be better than the 2018 stiffs.

[stl jason]

send over the suggestions:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...0EEkA/viewform


some of the recent historical additions have been from community suggestions (Ross Youngs, Heinie Zimmerman, Van Mungo)... keep 'em coming.

[whobob]

I have heard that historical players are rarer to get in packs compared to the live cards. They seem to be adding new cards every week, though.

[mess]

I personally enjoy seeing Historical players from the late 90s and early 00s... but I agree, more historical players please!

[Markus Heinsohn]

Right now the split in OOTP 19 is 75/25 in favor of live cards. For OOTP 20 we'll change this to 70/30.

[Maddox]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Right now the split in OOTP 19 is 80/20 in favor of live cards. For OOTP 20 we'll change this to 75/25.

Nice change. Thanks!

[mcdog512]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Right now the split in OOTP 19 is 80/20 in favor of live cards. For OOTP 20 we'll change this to 75/25.

I agree with Maddox, awesome.

[Xogo]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Right now the split in OOTP 19 is 80/20 in favor of live cards. For OOTP 20 we'll change this to 75/25.

What is the logic behind this? Why arent all cards even in terms of drop rate? Regardless of the ratings, why do you want teams made up of mostly current players? Are you concerned about PT users being turned-off by players they are unfamiliar with. I would think most users of OOTP are very knowledgeable of the games history. For me, being stuck with mostly current players is a turn off. I think its more fun to build your "Perfect Team" with the best players past or present. Even if you have to go back and learn about who some of these players are. Even so, most OOTP users are going to look at ratings of cards and go with the best, even if they never heard of the player. Or maybe its as simple from a business model point of view. You want to make the best cards very rare so that the user has to buy PP with $ to either open enough packs to get the cards or for the PP to spend on the AH.

[Maddox]

Originally Posted by Xogo

What is the logic behind this? Why arent all cards even in terms of drop rate? Regardless of the ratings, why do you want teams made up of mostly current players? Are you concerned about PT users being turned-off by players they are unfamiliar with. I would think most users of OOTP are very knowledgeable of the games history. For me, being stuck with mostly current players is a turn off. I think its more fun to build your "Perfect Team" with the best players past or present. Even if you have to go back and learn about who some of these players are. Even so, most OOTP users are going to look at ratings of cards and go with the best, even if they never heard of the player. Or maybe its as simple from a business model point of view. You want to make the best cards very rare so that the user has to buy PP with $ to either open enough packs to get the cards or for the PP to spend on the AH.

Seems pretty simple to me.

Historical players are more desired so you cut down on the availability and their price goes up, causing people to possibly spend more money on Points which makes the Devs more money.

It is the same reason Perfects and Diamonds cards are more rare than silver and bronze cards.

[mess]

Originally Posted by Xogo

What is the logic behind this? Why arent all cards even in terms of drop rate? Regardless of the ratings, why do you want teams made up of mostly current players? Are you concerned about PT users being turned-off by players they are unfamiliar with. I would think most users of OOTP are very knowledgeable of the games history. For me, being stuck with mostly current players is a turn off. I think its more fun to build your "Perfect Team" with the best players past or present. Even if you have to go back and learn about who some of these players are. Even so, most OOTP users are going to look at ratings of cards and go with the best, even if they never heard of the player. Or maybe its as simple from a business model point of view. You want to make the best cards very rare so that the user has to buy PP with $ to either open enough packs to get the cards or for the PP to spend on the AH.

My understanding is that when the pack is generated, it is assigned values for the pack. (1 Gold, 3 Iron, 2 Bronze for example)

The server then picks out a player randomly from those "pools" at a 80/20 ratio.

[Dogberry99]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Right now the split in OOTP 19 is 80/20 in favor of live cards. For OOTP 20 we'll change this to 75/25.

I have no qualms about the ratio, per se, but if we can't get "more" cards outright, then I would at least love to see fewer instances of multiple cards for the same player - especially if the differences between them are negligible. There are a lot of extremely successful players and even award winners who appear to not have any in game representation. There should be plenty of room for them

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by Dogberry99

I have no qualms about the ratio, per se, but if we can't get "more" cards outright, then I would at least love to see fewer instances of multiple cards for the same player - especially if the differences between them are negligible. There are a lot of extremely successful players and even award winners who appear to not have any in game representation. There should be plenty of room for them

In addition to the ratio change, we're also planning to add around 800 new historical cards to OOTP20. Plus keeping the historical cards already in OOTP19.

The majority (probably around 80-90% as a guesstimate) of the new cards will be guys who don't currently have any PT cards.

Plus we'll add even more historical players as content updates throughout the year. So I'd guess overall there will probably be something like 900-1000 new historical cards available in OOTP20.

That's subject to change of course, so not an ironclad guarantee, but it's what we're planning on at the moment.

[Splitter24]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

In addition to the ratio change, we're also planning to add around 800 new historical cards to OOTP20. Plus keeping the historical cards already in OOTP19.

If you guys need any help on that front, you know where to find me.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by Splitter24

If you guys need any help on that front, you know where to find me.

Thanks for the offer!

I've already made the preliminary list up and we're working on getting the cards created, so probably too late for suggestions of the initial wave of guys this year. The PR guys are taking suggestions for the guys that'll be added in some content updates throughout the year though. Pretty sure there's a Google doc somewhere around here for that...

[David Watts]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Thanks for the offer!

I've already made the preliminary list up and we're working on getting the cards created, so probably too late for suggestions of the initial wave of guys this year. The PR guys are taking suggestions for the guys that'll be added in some content updates throughout the year though. Pretty sure there's a Google doc somewhere around here for that...

Add 1993 Tony Phillips

[Splitter24]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Thanks for the offer!

I've already made the preliminary list up and we're working on getting the cards created, so probably too late for suggestions of the initial wave of guys this year. The PR guys are taking suggestions for the guys that'll be added in some content updates throughout the year though. Pretty sure there's a Google doc somewhere around here for that...

Yeah. I've been flooding that doc (probably a little too much) with suggestions. I had put up two of the latest releases (1912 Zimmerman and 1936 Mungo).

[Markus Heinsohn]

A little correction, right now the ration is 75% live cards, 25% historical cards. We'll change this to 70/30 for OOTP 20

[Germaniac]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

A little correction, right now the ration is 75% live cards, 25% historical cards. We'll change this to 70/30 for OOTP 20

A small request from me:

It would be great if you could re-visit the ratings of the historical cards - I think a lot of modern players are drastically overrated in comparison to historical superstar players.