Opinions?

dsblcommish · 01-24-2002, 04:42 PM

I run the Down South Baseball League (DSBL) and we are in our 3rd season right now.

I just put in some new rules that will take effect next season and I was wondering if I could get some feedback on the rules, page layout, etc...

Look good? Bad? Rules stink?

I'm always looking to make things better, that's why I'm asking...

DHS23 · 01-24-2002, 05:29 PM

Well, you got pitchers under the batter column, and batters under the pitchers column in the Franchise Players page.

Everything else looks pretty good

Nice to see you took the exact words from the FBBL's rules page for the arbitration.

dsblcommish · 01-24-2002, 05:39 PM

Damn, I sure do

Thanks...

I didn't know that was another league's exact rules...one of my owners made that suggestion to me.

I guess that says really good things about the FBBL then...

Subby · 01-25-2002, 04:16 AM

And you copied the contract extensions rules VERBATIM from the TBSBA.

At least provide credit where credit is due...

dsblcommish · 01-25-2002, 06:27 AM

I would if I had known. I let my owners give suggestions and one owner gave me that suggestion. Dennis Hawkins, is he in that league?

Subby · 01-25-2002, 10:11 AM

Beats me

Now you know...

bkurtz · 01-25-2002, 12:12 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Subby:
And you copied the contract extensions rules VERBATIM from the TBSBA.

At least provide credit where credit is due...<hr></blockquote>

actually, the tbsba got them from the computer baseball league fan site. i have been using those for my solo league as house rules.

bkurtz · 01-25-2002, 12:23 PM

[quote]Originally posted by dsblcommish:
I would if I had known. I let my owners give suggestions and one owner gave me that suggestion. Dennis Hawkins, is he in that league?<hr></blockquote>

payrolls and revenues rules come from the computer league as well. guess your owners search the net on a daily basis.

Killebrew · 01-25-2002, 12:26 PM

Hmmm, you mean all OOTP online rules are not taken from the XBL?!?! (J/K)

bkurtz · 01-25-2002, 12:44 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Killebrew:
Hmmm, you mean all OOTP online rules are not taken from the XBL?!?! (J/K)<hr></blockquote>

hehe, good one. i don't play in online leagues but like to take a look at almost every one and lurk around. i like the computer baseball league fan site and thefobl the most. both leagues put up a great effort (some other too) but have a terrific sense of humor, which i like. fobl is quite fun overall and love the computer baseball stingy power rankings. used to check the xbl too and some of its rules came from the computer league as well. the difference: the xbl commish gave credit. that's the good thing about great leagues, they give credit where it's due.

[ January 25, 2002: Message edited by: bkurtz ]

LivnLegend · 01-25-2002, 02:09 PM

I was surprised by this rule:

[quote]Players will get better or get worse from season to season, that's part of OOTP3, but, after each season in real life, I will go over the player's ratings and compare them to there real-life performance. If a player has proven himself in real-life, then I will make changes to the player's ratings in the leaugue to reflect his performance. <hr></blockquote>

Is this a common rule in online leagues featuring real life players? My only online league experience is with fictional players but I was surprised to see a rule like this. It seems very subjective and could be the cause for tension or arguments among GM's over what is or isn't a break-out season.

Also, assuming you sim faster than 1 DSBL season per Major League season, the off-season player rating adjustments would not coincide in the game as with real life.

dsblcommish · 01-25-2002, 02:15 PM

Sorry guys, I have no problem giving credit, I just gave it to the owner's that suggested them

I am adding the credits to my league rules page right now because I do beleive in giving credit where it is due.

As for that rules adjusting rule, that's only after one real time major league season, it was really for the initial season since by the time another major league season is over, there is no telling how far we'll be in the league...

Once again, I am going to give some credit to those leagues right now, thanks for pointing it out guys...

dsblcommish · 01-25-2002, 02:24 PM

If I can get the URL for the TBSBL, I would be happy to add a link to it on the rules page. I already have links to the FBBL and CBL.

crackpott · 01-26-2002, 09:32 AM

some things are easy to say it may not have been copied, but when Hooty McBoobity has been mentioned in other leagues rules, you know they were taken from mine.

Actually, i've reworked my arbitration so that's no longer in there, but still... links on others pages for credit is always good... translates into more visitors.

dsblcommish · 01-27-2002, 07:10 PM

Yeah, actually, i did get that from another league, I had forgotten about that. What league do you run? So i can add a link to it from my page...

I'll get everything worked out before long

Subby · 01-28-2002, 09:42 AM

My apologies - I didnt realize the TBSBA's rules had been copied as well

MBL/XBACoCommish · 01-28-2002, 12:41 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Killebrew:
Hmmm, you mean all OOTP online rules are not taken from the XBL?!?! (J/K)<hr></blockquote>

well, I used to run a league I had perrmission to use the relocation/expansion rules. I recommend to any commissioners that you should:

a. get permission

b. give credit and/or put email messages on site as proof

c. put link to league on rules.

01-24-2002, 04:42 PM	#1
dsblcommish Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 38	Opinions? I run the Down South Baseball League (DSBL) and we are in our 3rd season right now. I just put in some new rules that will take effect next season and I was wondering if I could get some feedback on the rules, page layout, etc... Look good? Bad? Rules stink? I'm always looking to make things better, that's why I'm asking... __________________ Matt Carlisle DSBL Commish <a href="http://www.thedsbl.com" target="_blank">http://www.thedsbl.com</a>

01-24-2002, 05:39 PM	#3
dsblcommish Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 38	Damn, I sure do Thanks... I didn't know that was another league's exact rules...one of my owners made that suggestion to me. I guess that says really good things about the FBBL then... __________________ Matt Carlisle DSBL Commish <a href="http://www.thedsbl.com" target="_blank">http://www.thedsbl.com</a>

01-25-2002, 06:27 AM	#5
dsblcommish Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 38	I would if I had known. I let my owners give suggestions and one owner gave me that suggestion. Dennis Hawkins, is he in that league? __________________ Matt Carlisle DSBL Commish <a href="http://www.thedsbl.com" target="_blank">http://www.thedsbl.com</a>

01-25-2002, 12:12 PM	#7
bkurtz Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 161	[quote]Originally posted by Subby: <strong>And you copied the contract extensions rules VERBATIM from the TBSBA. At least provide credit where credit is due...</strong><hr></blockquote> actually, the tbsba got them from the computer baseball league fan site. i have been using those for my solo league as house rules.

01-25-2002, 12:23 PM	#8
bkurtz Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 161	[quote]Originally posted by dsblcommish: <strong>I would if I had known. I let my owners give suggestions and one owner gave me that suggestion. Dennis Hawkins, is he in that league?</strong><hr></blockquote> payrolls and revenues rules come from the computer league as well. guess your owners search the net on a daily basis.

01-24-2002, 05:29 PM	#2
DHS23 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 506	Well, you got pitchers under the batter column, and batters under the pitchers column in the Franchise Players page. Everything else looks pretty good Nice to see you took the exact words from the FBBL's rules page for the arbitration.

01-25-2002, 04:16 AM	#4
Subby Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 375	And you copied the contract extensions rules VERBATIM from the TBSBA. At least provide credit where credit is due...

01-25-2002, 10:11 AM	#6
Subby Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 375	Beats me Now you know...

01-25-2002, 12:26 PM	#9
Killebrew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,326	Hmmm, you mean all OOTP online rules are not taken from the XBL?!?! (J/K) __________________ FOBL Capital City Metropolitans CDL Minnesota Twins

01-25-2002, 12:44 PM	#10
bkurtz Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 161	[quote]Originally posted by Killebrew: <strong>Hmmm, you mean all OOTP online rules are not taken from the XBL?!?! (J/K)</strong><hr></blockquote> hehe, good one. i don't play in online leagues but like to take a look at almost every one and lurk around. i like the computer baseball league fan site and thefobl the most. both leagues put up a great effort (some other too) but have a terrific sense of humor, which i like. fobl is quite fun overall and love the computer baseball stingy power rankings. used to check the xbl too and some of its rules came from the computer league as well. the difference: the xbl commish gave credit. that's the good thing about great leagues, they give credit where it's due. [ January 25, 2002: Message edited by: bkurtz ]</p>

01-25-2002, 02:09 PM	#11
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	I was surprised by this rule: [quote]Players will get better or get worse from season to season, that's part of OOTP3, but, after each season in real life, I will go over the player's ratings and compare them to there real-life performance. If a player has proven himself in real-life, then I will make changes to the player's ratings in the leaugue to reflect his performance. <hr></blockquote> Is this a common rule in online leagues featuring real life players? My only online league experience is with fictional players but I was surprised to see a rule like this. It seems very subjective and could be the cause for tension or arguments among GM's over what is or isn't a break-out season. Also, assuming you sim faster than 1 DSBL season per Major League season, the off-season player rating adjustments would not coincide in the game as with real life. __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.

01-25-2002, 02:15 PM	#12
dsblcommish Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 38	Sorry guys, I have no problem giving credit, I just gave it to the owner's that suggested them I am adding the credits to my league rules page right now because I do beleive in giving credit where it is due. As for that rules adjusting rule, that's only after one real time major league season, it was really for the initial season since by the time another major league season is over, there is no telling how far we'll be in the league... Once again, I am going to give some credit to those leagues right now, thanks for pointing it out guys... __________________ Matt Carlisle DSBL Commish <a href="http://www.thedsbl.com" target="_blank">http://www.thedsbl.com</a>

01-25-2002, 02:24 PM	#13
dsblcommish Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 38	If I can get the URL for the TBSBL, I would be happy to add a link to it on the rules page. I already have links to the FBBL and CBL. __________________ Matt Carlisle DSBL Commish <a href="http://www.thedsbl.com" target="_blank">http://www.thedsbl.com</a>

01-26-2002, 09:32 AM	#14
crackpott Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,961	some things are easy to say it may not have been copied, but when Hooty McBoobity has been mentioned in other leagues rules, you know they were taken from mine. Actually, i've reworked my arbitration so that's no longer in there, but still... links on others pages for credit is always good... translates into more visitors. __________________ Abandoned Planet - Check it out. The photos don't suck anymore.

01-27-2002, 07:10 PM	#15
dsblcommish Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 38	Yeah, actually, i did get that from another league, I had forgotten about that. What league do you run? So i can add a link to it from my page... I'll get everything worked out before long __________________ Matt Carlisle DSBL Commish <a href="http://www.thedsbl.com" target="_blank">http://www.thedsbl.com</a>

01-28-2002, 09:42 AM	#16
Subby Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 375	My apologies - I didnt realize the TBSBA's rules had been copied as well

01-28-2002, 12:41 PM	#17
MBL/XBACoCommish Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New York Posts: 19	[quote]Originally posted by Killebrew: <strong>Hmmm, you mean all OOTP online rules are not taken from the XBL?!?! (J/K)</strong><hr></blockquote> well, I used to run a league I had perrmission to use the relocation/expansion rules. I recommend to any commissioners that you should: a. get permission b. give credit and/or put email messages on site as proof c. put link to league on rules.