Professional Replay Baseball League 1939 Hall of Fame Ballot

DamnYankees · 03-28-2008, 10:41 PM

Welcome to the 1939 Hall of Fame election for the Professional Baseball Replay League!

Ever since 1901, we have been faithfully simming the history of baseball over again with different players, different personalities, and different histories. When we entered 1936, the year in which the first ever Hall of Fame elections took place, we followed that tradition.

14 players and two managers were elected into the first ever Hall of Fame class in 1939. You can take a look at those players here:

PBRL Hall of Fame Plaques

I want to stress that you can vote for anyone who is retired. The list of players below are a recommendation of the 10 or so best hitters and pitchers. If you vote for a player who is not listed below, I will automatically add them to the ballot next year. Please feel free to look at our Catobase, which is enhanced with many stats many version of Cato usually lack.

Pro Replay History - League Statistics and History

If you take a look at the leaderboards for OPS+, ERA+, and Win Shares, you can get a good feeling.

ANYONE CAN VOTE!

But if you aren’t active in PBRL, please submit a serious ballot or don’t vote at all.

And now, the players, and then the votes!

Players need 75% to be elected. Each voter can vote for up to 10 players.

1937 ELECTION
1936 ELECTION

DamnYankees · 03-28-2008, 10:42 PM

POSITION PLAYERS

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Frankie Barbuto, IF, 1915-1933
3104 H , 262 2B , 22 HR , 1095 RBI , 1437 R , 573 K , 558 BB , 909 SB
0.319 AVG . 0.355 OBP , 0.372 SLG , 0.727 OPS

OPS+: 101

BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE

Pennants: 1915, 1916, 1917, 1929, 1931, 1932
WS Victories: 1915, 1916, 1931, 1932
WS Record: .267/.294/.321/.615

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Eckard Burlingame, OF, 1916-1932
2547 H , 477 2B , 91 HR , 1198 RBI , 1219 R , 609 K , 905 BB , 95 SB
0.317 AVG . 0.389 OBP , 0.44 SLG , 0.829 OPS
OPS+: 132

BOY Award: 1926
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1921, 1927

Pennants: 1917, 1918, 1919, 1925, 1926
WS Victories: 1917, 1918, 1925, 1926
WS Record: .339/.389/.505/.893

Led League in: BA 1, OBP 1, SLG 1, OPS 1, BB 0, 2B 1, HR 0
Career Top 25: H (7), HR (24), RBI (8), 2B (5), BB (22), R (12) [/b]

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Julius Coltrane, 3B, 1911-1926
2142 H , 377 2B , 64 HR , 1080 RBI , 1114 R , 644 K , 751 BB , 354 SB
0.313 AVG . 0.387 OBP , 0.434 SLG , 0.821 OPS
OPS+: 138

BOY Award: 1918, 1922
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1918

Pennants: 1918, 1922
WS Victories: NONE
WS Record: .319/.396/.447/.843

Led League in: BA 0, OBP 0, SLG 2, OPS 2, BB 0, 2B 0, HR 0
Career Top 25: H (23), RBI (12), 2B (25), R (20) [/b]

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Jim Dane, 1B, 1914-1931
2086 H , 401 2B , 303 HR , 1470 RBI , 1308 R , 951 K , 988 BB , 69 SB
0.248 AVG . 0.328 OBP , 0.424 SLG , 0.752 OPS

OPS+: 110

BOY Award: 1921, 1922
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1917, 1928

Pennants: 1922, 1923, 1927, 1928
WS Victories: 1922
WS Record: .306/.366/.583/.949

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Gene Lassiter, OF and P, 1914-1933
1928 H , 383 2B , 336 HR , 1443 RBI , 1465 R , 1046 K , 1264 BB , 27 SB
0.249 AVG . 0.369 OBP , 0.468 SLG , 0.837 OPS

OPS+: 131

37 - 33 , 0.529 WP% , 3.84 ERA
656.3 IP , 254 K , 207 BB , 37 CG , 2 SHO , 1.35 WHIP

BOY Award: 1917
ROY Award: 1914
Gold Gloves: 1919, 1929

Pennants: 1914, 1916, 1922, 1923
WS Victories: 1914, 1922
WS Record: .200/.288/.369/.657 and 2-0, 1.59 ERA

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Sully McTeague, CF, 1901-1920
2418 H , 391 2B , 29 HR , 967 RBI , 1263 R , 623 K , 1304 BB , 394 SB
0.295 AVG . 0.398 OBP , 0.381 SLG , 0.779 OPS
OPS+: 138

BOY Award: 1910
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: NONE

Pennants: 1903, 1910, 1914
WS Victories: 1910
WS Record: .260/.403/.340/.743

Led League in: BA 1, OBP 5, SLG 0, OPS 2, BB 2, 2B 0, HR 0
Career Top 25: H (6), RBI (9), 2B (13), BB (3), R (2)

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Whitey Murphy, OF, 1917-1931
2421 H , 255 2B , 37 HR , 896 RBI , 1193 R , 513 K , 652 BB , 28 SB
0.36 AVG . 0.425 OBP , 0.442 SLG , 0.868 OPS

OPS+: 136

BOY Award: 1920
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1923, 1925

Pennants: 1918, 1920, 1924, 1927, 1928
WS Victories: NONE
WS Record: .286/.342/.371/.713

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Joel Praetorius, 2B, 1907-1924
3030 H , 419 2B , 21 HR , 993 RBI , 1346 R , 873 K , 758 BB , 572 SB
0.315 AVG . 0.366 OBP , 0.397 SLG , 0.763 OPS
OPS+: 129

BOY Award: 1912, 1913
ROY Award: 1907
Gold Gloves: 1914

Pennants: 1909, 1912
WS Victories: 1912
WS Record: .300/.375/.440/.815

Led League in: BA 3, OBP 1, SLG 1, OPS 2, BB 0, 2B 0, HR 0
Career Top 25: BA (22), H (2), RBI (13), 2B (12), 3B (7), R (4)

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Mick Rooker, LF, 1901-1917
2053 H , 512 2B , 97 HR , 938 RBI , 1225 R , 555 K , 1345 BB , 343 SB
0.282 AVG . 0.395 OBP , 0.429 SLG , 0.823 OPS
OPS+: 155

BOY Award: 1905, 1907
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1906, 1907, 1909

Pennants: 1907
WS Victories: 1907
WS Record: .333/.400/.611/1.011

Led League in: BA 0, OBP 2, SLG 3, OPS 3, BB 2, 2B 3, HR 4
Career Top 25:H (4), HR (1), RBI (7), 2B (3), 3B (5), BB (2), R (1)

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Chuck Sciarraba, SS, 1913-1929
2605 H , 286 2B , 57 HR , 1195 RBI , 1323 R , 635 K , 719 BB , 677 SB
0.304 AVG . 0.364 OBP , 0.387 SLG , 0.751 OPS

OPS+: 114

BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: 1913
Gold Gloves: NONE

Pennants: 1913, 1915, 1916, 1917
WS Victories: 1915, 1916
WS Record: .224/.280/.388/.668

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Milton Shifman, CF, 1901-1916
2096 H , 266 2B , 12 HR , 726 RBI , 964 R , 540 K , 1094 BB , 197 SB
0.313 AVG . 0.41 OBP , 0.382 SLG , 0.792 OPS
OPS+: 145

BOY Award: 1909, 1910, 1911
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1901, 1902, 1905

Pennants: NONE
WS Victories: NONE
WS Record: NONE

Led League in: BA 1, OBP 3, SLG 2, OPS 3, BB 0, 2B 0, HR 0
Career Top 25: BA (5), H (5), BB (9), R (9) [/b]

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Carl Swagger, OF, 1916-1931
2238 H , 460 2B , 259 HR , 1576 RBI , 1327 R , 488 K , 697 BB , 189 SB
0.279 AVG . 0.342 OBP , 0.486 SLG , 0.828 OPS

OPS+: 127

BOY Award: 1926
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1919, 1922, 1925

Pennants: 1925
WS Victories: NONE
WS Record: .143/.200/.214/.414

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Hiram Webber, 3B, 1901-1920
2319 H , 469 2B , 62 HR , 919 RBI , 1038 R , 625 K , 1304 BB , 32 SB
0.268 AVG . 0.363 OBP , 0.356 SLG , 0.718 OPS
OPS+: 121

BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1906, 1907, 1909, 1910, 1912

Pennants: 1916
WS Victories: NONE
WS Record: .353/.421/.412/.833

Led League in: BA 0, OBP 0, SLG 0, OPS 0, BB 2, 2B 0, HR 0
Career Top 25: H (9), HR (16), RBI (14), 2B (8), BB (3), R (15) [/b]

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Dean Wooster, 2B, 1916-1937
3275 H , 644 2B , 216 HR , 1975 RBI , 1770 R , 1012 K , 1173 BB , 140 SB
0.300 AVG . 0.369 OBP , 0.443 SLG , 0.812 OPS

OPS+: 123

BOY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Gloves: 1918, 1933, 1936
All Star Selections: 1934

Pennants: 1918, 1920, 1929, 1933, 1934
WS Victories: 1929, 1933
WS Record: .284/.315/.431/.746

DamnYankees · 03-28-2008, 10:43 PM

PITCHERS

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Biff Best, 1918-1937
351 - 235 , 0.599 WP% , 3.98 ERA
5377.5 IP , 1544 K , 801 BB , 349 CG , 35 SHO , 1.31 WHIP

ERA+: 115

POTY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Glove: NONE
All Star Selections: 1933, 1934

Pennants: 1921, 1925, 1926
World Championships: 1921, 1925, 1926
WS Record: 3-1, 1.40 ERA

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Jack Birdsong, 1920-1937
338 - 248 , 0.577 WP% , 3.45 ERA
5639.2 IP , 2438 K , 1414 BB , 385 CG , 41 SHO , 1.27 WHIP

ERA+: 135

POTY Award: 1924, 1935
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Glove: 1925, 1936
All Star Selections: 1935, `1936

Pennants: 1924, 1927, 1938, 1935
World Championships: NONE
WS Record: 2-6, 4.64 ERA

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David Brent, 1911-1930
287 - 228 , 0.557 WP% , 3.18 ERA
4876.6 IP , 2467 K , 1074 BB , 429 CG , 47 SHO , 1.15 WHIP
ERA+: 128

POTY Award: 1923
ROY Award: NONE

Pennants: 1922, 1923, 1927, 1928
World Championships: 1922
WS Record: 3-1, 3.07 ERA (1922 WS MVP)

Led League in: ERA 1, Wins 2, IP 2, K 2, WHIP 2
Career Top 25: W (9), K (8), CG (4), SHO (10)

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Sayer Calhoun, 1915-1931
281 - 208 , 0.575 WP% , 3.79 ERA
4621.5 IP , 1706 K , 1291 BB , 311 CG , 30 SHO , 1.35 WHIP
ERA+: 117

POTY Award: 1925, 1926
ROY Award: NONE

Pennants: 1925, 1926
World Championships: 1925, 1926
WS Record: 4-1, 3.56 ERA

Led League in: ERA 1, Wins 1, IP 1, K 0, WHIP 2
Career Top 25: W (10), K (25), CG (19)

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Randall Flagg, 1919-1938
300 - 208 , 0.591 WP% , 3.8 ERA
4787.7 IP , 2047 K , 1191 BB , 169 CG , 25 SHO , 1.29 WHIP

ERA+: 121

POTY Award: NONE
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Glove: NONE
All Star Selections: 1935

Pennants: 1922, 1923, 1933, 1934, 1937
World Championships: 1922, 1933, 1937
WS Record: 4-3, 4.64 ERA

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Fred Fulk, 1911-1924
261 - 194 , 0.574 WP% , 3.04 ERA
4338.7 IP , 2125 K , 769 BB , 382 CG , 48 SHO , 1.11 WHIP
ERA+: 127

POTY Award: 1915, 1916
ROY Award: NONE

Pennants: 1913
World Championships: 1913
WS Record: 2-0, 2.00 ERA

Led League in: ERA 1, Wins 2, IP 4, K 1, WHIP 5
Career Top 25: W (9), K (12), CG (8), SHO (9)

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Herman "Ham" Iburg, 1905-1921
303 - 225 , 0.574 WP% , 3.34 ERA
4928.0 IP , 2822 K , 2232 BB , 358 CG , 45 SHO , 1.34 WHIP
ERA+: 101

BOTY Award: NONE
ROY Award: 1905

Pennants: 1905, 1906, 1907, 1908, 1910, 1915, 1916, 1917
World Championships: 1905, 1906, 1907, 1915, 1916
WS Record: 9-2, 2.08 ERA

Led League in: ERA 0, Wins 1, IP 0, K 0, WHIP 0
Career Top 25: W (6), K (4), CG (9), SHO (11)

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Tom Paladin, 1921-1937
320 - 205 , 0.61 WP% , 3.78 ERA
4828.5 IP , 1709 K , 1016 BB , 388 CG , 34 SHO , 1.33 WHIP

ERA+: 124

POTY Award: 1931
ROY Award: NONE
Gold Glove: 1932
All Star Selections: 1933

Pennants: 1921, 1930, 1931, 1935, 1937
World Championships: 1921, 1937
WS Record: 2-4, 6.29 ERA

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Gabriel Poe, 1910-1928
276 - 228 , 0.548 WP% , 3.25 ERA
4909.8 IP , 2525 K , 1180 BB , 101 CG , 28 SHO , 1.24 WHIP
ERA+: 126

Murphy Award: 1922
ROY Award: NONE

Pennants: 1920
World Championships: 1920
WS Record: 1-0, 3.07 ERA

Led League in: ERA 2, Wins 1, IP 0, K 2, WHIP 2
Career Top 25: W (9), K (7)

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Gerald Rodgers, 1901-1918
268 - 223 , 0.546 WP% , 2.64 ERA
4684.9 IP , 2272 K , 1054 BB , 411 CG , 62 SHO , 1.10 WHIP
ERA+: 135

POTY Award: 1905
ROY Award: NONE

Pennants: 1904
World Championships: NONE
WS Record: NONE

Led League in: ERA 1, Wins 1, IP 2, K 0, WHIP 2
Career Top 25: ERA (12), W (8), K (8), CG (3), SHO (5)

DamnYankees · 03-28-2008, 11:46 PM

Burlingame
Coltrane
McTeague
Murphy
Praetorius
Sciarabba
Wooster

Birdsong
Brent
Paladin

sbrylski · 03-29-2008, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamnYankees

ANYONE CAN VOTE!

But if you aren’t active in PBRL, please submit a serious ballot or don’t vote at all.

So I, a league GM, can go bat crazy with mine though?

NCBeachBum · 03-29-2008, 01:04 AM

Julius Coltrane
Sully McTeague
Joel Praetorius
Mick Rooker
Milton Shifman
Hiram Webber
Dean Wooster

Biff Best
Jack Birdsong
David Brent

TooLiveBrew · 03-29-2008, 01:06 AM

Rooker
Wooster
Lassiter
Burlingame
Swagger

Birdsong
Fulk
Rodgers
Poe
Brent

captaincarl · 03-29-2008, 03:43 AM

Barbuto
Burlingame
Praetorius
Sciarraba
Wooster
Best
Birdsong
Flagg
Iburg
Paladin

scprideandms · 03-29-2008, 07:24 PM

Burlingame
Coltrane
McTeague
Murphy
Rooker
Birdsong
Brent
Poe
Fulk
Rodgers

tward13 · 03-29-2008, 08:05 PM

Birdsong
Flagg
Paladin
Best
Dane
Lassiter
Murphy
Praetorious
Rooker
Wooster

DamnYankees · 03-29-2008, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tward13

Birdsong
Flagg
Paladin
Best
Dane
Lassiter
Murphy
Praetorious
Rooker
Wooster

I'm curious - is the vote for Dane a bit of homerism?

kreitena · 03-30-2008, 02:09 PM

Alright this was nearly impossible but I managed to do it.

Burlingame
Coltrane
Murphy
Praetorius
Rooker
Wooster

Birdsong
Brent
Fulk
Paladin

canadiancreed · 03-30-2008, 06:00 PM

Barbuto
Praetorius
Wooster
Webber

Best
Birdsong
Brent
Flagg
Iburg
Paladin

sbrylski · 03-30-2008, 06:17 PM

Barbuto
Praetorius
Rooker
Webber
Wooster

Best
Birdsong

Eddie Deal (non-ballot)

fhomess · 03-30-2008, 06:18 PM

Burlingame
Murphy
Wooster
Best
Birdsong
Paladin

rocknfire7 · 03-30-2008, 06:47 PM

Lassiter*
Coltrane
Praetorius*
Murphy
Rooker
Wooster*
Burlingame

Best
Paladin

The *'s were easy choices....

I'd like to make a plea for Lassiter. If you put the raw stats aside he was during his career one of the most feared sluggers in the game. He also came back after a loooong layoff and pitched well for a half season before he fell back to earth. Lassiter is one of those cases wher I think numbers shouldn't be the only factor. I would add Dane too but he didn't have the charisma and charm that Lassiter had...That is if you follow the storylines of the league...

cogs1 · 03-30-2008, 08:41 PM

Barbuto
Lassiter
Praetorius
Rooker
Wooster
Best
Birdsong
Brent
Paladin

DamnYankees · 03-30-2008, 09:05 PM

Posting this for JT, GM of the Phillies:

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Joel Praetorius (3000 hits, led the league in BA 3 times, 2 BOTY and a great WS record)

Milton Shifman (short career, but has 3 BOTY)

Biff Best (351 wins, great WS record)

Jack Birdsong (I don't need an explanation)

jeheinz72 · 03-31-2008, 10:11 AM

Man, pimpin' ain't easy.

Burlingame
Lassiter
Murphy
Praetorius
Rooker
Woostah

Best
Birdsong
Paladin
Calhoun - People should really look at him more. The "totals" may not be there perse, but he basically single-handedly was the pitching end of back-to-back ring winners. His acquisition lifted us from good back to great.

metsgeek · 04-01-2008, 09:08 PM

Barbuto
Coltrane
Praetorius
Rooker
Sciarraba
Shifman
Wooster
Birdsong
Rodgers
Best

Some of the deadball guys are really getting ignored......just like IRL

03-28-2008, 10:41 PM	#1
DamnYankees All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,644	Professional Replay Baseball League 1939 Hall of Fame Ballot Welcome to the 1939 Hall of Fame election for the Professional Baseball Replay League! Ever since 1901, we have been faithfully simming the history of baseball over again with different players, different personalities, and different histories. When we entered 1936, the year in which the first ever Hall of Fame elections took place, we followed that tradition. 14 players and two managers were elected into the first ever Hall of Fame class in 1939. You can take a look at those players here: PBRL Hall of Fame Plaques I want to stress that you can vote for anyone who is retired. The list of players below are a recommendation of the 10 or so best hitters and pitchers. If you vote for a player who is not listed below, I will automatically add them to the ballot next year. Please feel free to look at our Catobase, which is enhanced with many stats many version of Cato usually lack. Pro Replay History - League Statistics and History If you take a look at the leaderboards for OPS+, ERA+, and Win Shares, you can get a good feeling. ANYONE CAN VOTE! But if you aren’t active in PBRL, please submit a serious ballot or don’t vote at all. And now, the players, and then the votes! Players need 75% to be elected. Each voter can vote for up to 10 players. 1937 ELECTION 1936 ELECTION

03-29-2008, 01:04 AM	#6
NCBeachBum All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Topsail Island, NC, USA Posts: 1,049	Julius Coltrane Sully McTeague Joel Praetorius Mick Rooker Milton Shifman Hiram Webber Dean Wooster Biff Best Jack Birdsong David Brent __________________ And ain't that a shame, shame, shame Shame, shame, the way you do Oh, it's a shame, shame, shame Shame, shame on you

03-29-2008, 07:24 PM	#9
scprideandms All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N KY, 25 miles from Cincy Posts: 1,314	Burlingame Coltrane McTeague Murphy Rooker Birdsong Brent Poe Fulk Rodgers __________________ Change your playground + change your playfriends + change your playtoys + change your playtime = Change your life. If you keep on doing what you've always done you'll keep on gitting what you've always gotten.

03-30-2008, 02:09 PM	#12
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03-30-2008, 06:17 PM	#14
sbrylski Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 331	Barbuto Praetorius Rooker Webber Wooster Best Birdsong Eddie Deal (non-ballot) __________________ The International Baseball Association - A Quick-Start League Last edited by sbrylski; 03-30-2008 at 07:37 PM.

03-28-2008, 11:46 PM	#4
DamnYankees All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,644	Burlingame Coltrane McTeague Murphy Praetorius Sciarabba Wooster Birdsong Brent Paladin

03-29-2008, 01:06 AM	#7
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03-29-2008, 03:43 AM	#8
captaincarl Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Barrington, RI Posts: 4,362	Barbuto Burlingame Praetorius Sciarraba Wooster Best Birdsong Flagg Iburg Paladin

03-29-2008, 08:05 PM	#10
tward13 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,957	Birdsong Flagg Paladin Best Dane Lassiter Murphy Praetorious Rooker Wooster

03-30-2008, 06:00 PM	#13
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03-30-2008, 06:47 PM	#16
rocknfire7 Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,908 Blog Entries: 1 Infractions: 0/2 (4)	Lassiter* Coltrane Praetorius* Murphy Rooker Wooster* Burlingame Best Paladin The 's were easy choices.... I'd like to make a plea for Lassiter. If you put the raw stats aside he was during his career one of the most feared sluggers in the game. He also came back after a loooong layoff and pitched well for a half season before he fell back to earth. Lassiter is one of those cases wher I think numbers shouldn't be the only factor. I would add Dane too but he didn't have the charisma and charm that Lassiter had...That is if you follow the storylines of the league... Last edited by rocknfire7; 04-03-2008 at 12:43 AM.*

03-30-2008, 08:41 PM	#17
cogs1 Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4	Barbuto Lassiter Praetorius Rooker Wooster Best Birdsong Brent Paladin

03-31-2008, 10:11 AM	#19
jeheinz72 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 2,163	Man, pimpin' ain't easy. Burlingame Lassiter Murphy Praetorius Rooker Woostah Best Birdsong Paladin Calhoun - People should really look at him more. The "totals" may not be there perse, but he basically single-handedly was the pitching end of back-to-back ring winners. His acquisition lifted us from good back to great. __________________ Join The Dugout!

04-01-2008, 09:08 PM	#20
metsgeek Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Norwood, MA Posts: 5,450	Barbuto Coltrane Praetorius Rooker Sciarraba Shifman Wooster Birdsong Rodgers Best Some of the deadball guys are really getting ignored......just like IRL __________________ Commissioner - PBRL - Just finished 2009 109 seasons and still running strong!!!