OOTP 6.51 VS The Newer Verisons - Page 5

scprideandms · 01-15-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzrack

i think those of us that prefer 6.5 are just going to have to accept that ootp is no longer the same game we love. they have made the decision to move to a far more complicated game than I (and others like me) are in the market for. and thats ok, its a business decision. we will just have to make a personal decision to find another product or stick with the old one. to keep hoping that things will go back to the way we like is folly.

jazzrack............HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!!!!!

JoseRijo · 01-15-2008, 07:51 PM

I'll just add my opinion.
I started at ootp 6, and bought 6.5 because of some of the changes, and I did really love the user interface, but there were so many exploits to get around proper roster management that drove me nuts. I hated 2006, but 2007 has really changed my mind on the new product line. I am very optimistic about the new version because they did clearly listen to those of us who have made suggestions and bug reports during the 2006/2007 conversion and with miscellaneous patches. Honestly it amazes me how much 2007 improved on 2006. And while the UI is still clumsy at times, the bookmarking really makes typical tasks pretty simple for me.

OOTP is an awesome product and I think the reason we get so emotional about this stuff is it is so close to perfection. I mean, after playing BBMogul again I realize how good OOTP really is.

--- Side note---
Also, the guy who was talking about microsoft having multiple versions of windows sarcastically should know that microsoft for a long time DID do exactly that, with the NT/2K/XP line of OS and the 3.1/95/98/ME line. Both sold very well, but early on the NT line was too resource intense for normal PCs and 95 wasnt stable enough for business use. Eventually, the two were able to be merged into one product line, but between the first version of NT and the first of XP (thats the point the dos based line essentially died) was something like 8 years.

mgom27 · 01-16-2008, 12:06 PM

Rumor Mill like at mlbtraderumors.com and not like in NHL Eastside Hockey Manager. Like Sean Dyson is reporting that the Mets are willing to give up Reyes,Gomez,Sanchez,Sosa,Maine to the Twins for Santana and Nathan and John Hampson is reporting that Twins want more in the deal before the accept that kind of Trade offer also like Mitch Alton is reporting the Dodgers,Cubs and Angels are in on Santana.

silvam14 · 01-16-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mgom27

Rumor Mill like at mlbtraderumors.com and not like in NHL Eastside Hockey Manager. Like Sean Dyson is reporting that the Mets are willing to give up Reyes,Gomez,Sanchez,Sosa,Maine to the Twins for Santana and Nathan and John Hampson is reporting that Twins want more in the deal before the accept that kind of Trade offer also like Mitch Alton is reporting the Dodgers,Cubs and Angels are in on Santana.

Some more Deep thoughts in run-on sentences by mgom27

The Wolf · 01-16-2008, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mgom27

Rumor Mill like at mlbtraderumors.com and not like in NHL Eastside Hockey Manager. Like Sean Dyson is reporting that the Mets are willing to give up Reyes,Gomez,Sanchez,Sosa,Maine to the Twins for Santana and Nathan and John Hampson is reporting that Twins want more in the deal before the accept that kind of Trade offer also like Mitch Alton is reporting the Dodgers,Cubs and Angels are in on Santana.

The scransons above your heads are now ready to flange. Please unfasten your safety belts and press the emergency photoscamps on the back of the seats in front of you.

RchW · 01-16-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Wolf

The scransons above your heads are now ready to flange. Please unfasten your safety belts and press the emergency photoscamps on the back of the seats in front of you.

Ground control to Major Tom.

silvam14 · 01-16-2008, 10:22 PM

If you ever drop your keys into a river of molten lava, just let 'em go, becuause man, they're gone.

The Wolf · 01-16-2008, 10:45 PM

Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.

endgame · 01-16-2008, 10:55 PM

I'll call it. Time of death: 9:54pm

The Wolf · 01-17-2008, 12:59 AM

I was sorely tempted to reprise Samuel L. Jackson's great line from Pulp Fiction here, but sense and decency have instead prevailed.

bababui · 01-17-2008, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mgom27

Rumor Mill like at mlbtraderumors.com and not like in NHL Eastside Hockey Manager. Like Sean Dyson is reporting that the Mets are willing to give up Reyes,Gomez,Sanchez,Sosa,Maine to the Twins for Santana and Nathan and John Hampson is reporting that Twins want more in the deal before the accept that kind of Trade offer also like Mitch Alton is reporting the Dodgers,Cubs and Angels are in on Santana.

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Originally Posted by silvam14

Some more Deep thoughts in run-on sentences by mgom27

Yet still a great idea. If there is an OOTP HoF mgom is a first balloter.

Tony M · 01-17-2008, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The Wolf

I was sorely tempted to reprise Samuel L. Jackson's great line from Pulp Fiction here, but sense and decency have instead prevailed.

Unfortunately, over here it hasn't

There's a passage I got memorized. Ezekiel 25:17. The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you. I been sayin' that **** for years. And if you ever heard it, it meant your ass. I never really questioned what it meant. I thought it was just a cold-blooded thing to say to a mother****er before you popped a cap in his ass. But I saw some **** this mornin' made me think twice. Now I'm thinkin': it could mean you're the evil man. And I'm the righteous man. And Mr. 9mm here, he's the shepherd protecting my righteous ass in the valley of darkness. Or it could be you're the righteous man and I'm the shepherd and it's the world that's evil and selfish. I'd like that. But that **** ain't the truth. The truth is you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin', Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be a shepherd.

bababui · 01-17-2008, 04:49 AM

Its hard to be tough when John Travolta is in the scene tough.

The Wolf · 01-17-2008, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by redsoxford

Unfortunately, over here it hasn't

There's a passage I got memorized. Ezekiel 25:17. The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you. I been sayin' that **** for years. And if you ever heard it, it meant your ass. I never really questioned what it meant. I thought it was just a cold-blooded thing to say to a mother****er before you popped a cap in his ass. But I saw some **** this mornin' made me think twice. Now I'm thinkin': it could mean you're the evil man. And I'm the righteous man. And Mr. 9mm here, he's the shepherd protecting my righteous ass in the valley of darkness. Or it could be you're the righteous man and I'm the shepherd and it's the world that's evil and selfish. I'd like that. But that **** ain't the truth. The truth is you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin', Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be a shepherd.

Actually I was thinking of the one about English.

Tony M · 01-17-2008, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Wolf

The scransons above your heads are now ready to flange. Please unfasten your safety belts and press the emergency photoscamps on the back of the seats in front of you.

And now for something completely different!!!

JasonBonham · 01-17-2008, 09:06 AM

Ooooh, I need a dirty woman.
Ooooh, I need a dirty girl.

silvam14 · 01-17-2008, 09:58 AM

I bet during medieval times, one of the most common questions for catapult makers was "How come it doesn't shoot farther?" "Sorry, that's as far as it shoots"

Nukester · 01-18-2008, 03:18 PM

This game needs more shrubbery

Jestre · 01-19-2008, 09:06 AM

Fascinating thread, at least til this page.... I commish the longest running league in OOTP history, the MLBCentury. We started with OOTP2 in 2000 simming 1905 and are now simming 1966. We sucessfully advanced from OOTP2 to OOTP3 to OOTP4 etc... up til 6.5. We are still using 6.5 and will continue to do so til the league folds. Twice I have polled the league as to whether they want to switch over to 2007/8 etc. Both times all but 3 or 4 owners wanted to stick with 6.5 and the 3-4 were open to either choice. Also if we had switched to 2007/8 we would have lost a number of owners... I too share all the reservations about the versions that came after 6.5 that Cooley expressed....I commish the MLBC and I play historical solo and that is it. I also feel that 6.5 was the pinnacle of OOTP. If 6.5 had the option to turn off player developement and to use the historical player adjustments that can be done in 1 or 3 year increments I would never stop playing 6.5. Personnally I believe 6.5 came one version short of being a true classic.

I have never felt 'comfortable' with 2007 never bought or played 2006 and am not sure if I will buy 2008. I have reached the point that several others have expressed, if OOTP can put out a version that returns the game to the ease and feel of 6.5 I will spend my money, if not then I can be very patient.

OOTP6.5 was a brilliant combination of a very in depth baseball game with a simplistic and user friendly interface, everything was quite easy for all to understand and mod whether you were a computer genius or computer idiot like me.

You guys that are ignoring the numbers Cooley produced regarding the traffic on this site are just fooling yourselves. OOTP has lost a lot since the advent of 2006 and unless Markus and Co bring back what made OOTP so accessible and appealing to so many of us then OOTP's future is murky...

sporr · 01-19-2008, 01:10 PM

It's interesting that so many league commissioners are mentioning how well they like 6.5. I've found that OOTP 2007/8 is MUCH easier to manage from a commissioner point of view. Many tasks that had to be done manually in the past are handled automatically by the game. It has cut down on "maintenance" time considerably in my league.

01-16-2008, 12:06 PM	#83
mgom27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,520	Rumor Mill like at mlbtraderumors.com and not like in NHL Eastside Hockey Manager. Like Sean Dyson is reporting that the Mets are willing to give up Reyes,Gomez,Sanchez,Sosa,Maine to the Twins for Santana and Nathan and John Hampson is reporting that Twins want more in the deal before the accept that kind of Trade offer also like Mitch Alton is reporting the Dodgers,Cubs and Angels are in on Santana. __________________ Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

01-16-2008, 10:22 PM	#87
silvam14 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Dedham, MA Posts: 9,746	If you ever drop your keys into a river of molten lava, just let 'em go, becuause man, they're gone. __________________ Senior "Nancy Boy" of the OOTP Boards _______________________________________________

01-16-2008, 10:55 PM	#89
endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 16,843	I'll call it. Time of death: 9:54pm __________________ "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett _____________________________________________

01-17-2008, 09:58 AM	#97
silvam14 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Dedham, MA Posts: 9,746	I bet during medieval times, one of the most common questions for catapult makers was "How come it doesn't shoot farther?" "Sorry, that's as far as it shoots" __________________ Senior "Nancy Boy" of the OOTP Boards _______________________________________________

01-19-2008, 09:06 AM	#99
Jestre All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Smithfield,Ri,USA Posts: 612	Fascinating thread, at least til this page.... I commish the longest running league in OOTP history, the MLBCentury. We started with OOTP2 in 2000 simming 1905 and are now simming 1966. We sucessfully advanced from OOTP2 to OOTP3 to OOTP4 etc... up til 6.5. We are still using 6.5 and will continue to do so til the league folds. Twice I have polled the league as to whether they want to switch over to 2007/8 etc. Both times all but 3 or 4 owners wanted to stick with 6.5 and the 3-4 were open to either choice. Also if we had switched to 2007/8 we would have lost a number of owners... I too share all the reservations about the versions that came after 6.5 that Cooley expressed....I commish the MLBC and I play historical solo and that is it. I also feel that 6.5 was the pinnacle of OOTP. If 6.5 had the option to turn off player developement and to use the historical player adjustments that can be done in 1 or 3 year increments I would never stop playing 6.5. Personnally I believe 6.5 came one version short of being a true classic. I have never felt 'comfortable' with 2007 never bought or played 2006 and am not sure if I will buy 2008. I have reached the point that several others have expressed, if OOTP can put out a version that returns the game to the ease and feel of 6.5 I will spend my money, if not then I can be very patient. OOTP6.5 was a brilliant combination of a very in depth baseball game with a simplistic and user friendly interface, everything was quite easy for all to understand and mod whether you were a computer genius or computer idiot like me. You guys that are ignoring the numbers Cooley produced regarding the traffic on this site are just fooling yourselves. OOTP has lost a lot since the advent of 2006 and unless Markus and Co bring back what made OOTP so accessible and appealing to so many of us then OOTP's future is murky... __________________ My eyes perceive the present, but my roots are imbedded deeply in the grandeur of the past. "Chief Meyers"

01-15-2008, 07:51 PM	#82
JoseRijo Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 100	I'll just add my opinion. I started at ootp 6, and bought 6.5 because of some of the changes, and I did really love the user interface, but there were so many exploits to get around proper roster management that drove me nuts. I hated 2006, but 2007 has really changed my mind on the new product line. I am very optimistic about the new version because they did clearly listen to those of us who have made suggestions and bug reports during the 2006/2007 conversion and with miscellaneous patches. Honestly it amazes me how much 2007 improved on 2006. And while the UI is still clumsy at times, the bookmarking really makes typical tasks pretty simple for me. OOTP is an awesome product and I think the reason we get so emotional about this stuff is it is so close to perfection. I mean, after playing BBMogul again I realize how good OOTP really is. --- Side note--- Also, the guy who was talking about microsoft having multiple versions of windows sarcastically should know that microsoft for a long time DID do exactly that, with the NT/2K/XP line of OS and the 3.1/95/98/ME line. Both sold very well, but early on the NT line was too resource intense for normal PCs and 95 wasnt stable enough for business use. Eventually, the two were able to be merged into one product line, but between the first version of NT and the first of XP (thats the point the dos based line essentially died) was something like 8 years.

01-17-2008, 09:06 AM	#96
JasonBonham Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 105	Ooooh, I need a dirty woman. Ooooh, I need a dirty girl.

01-18-2008, 03:18 PM	#98
Nukester All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Newburgh, NY Posts: 1,936	This game needs more shrubbery

01-19-2008, 01:10 PM	#100
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	It's interesting that so many league commissioners are mentioning how well they like 6.5. I've found that OOTP 2007/8 is MUCH easier to manage from a commissioner point of view. Many tasks that had to be done manually in the past are handled automatically by the game. It has cut down on "maintenance" time considerably in my league.