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Rainmaker · 01-25-2017, 01:09 AM

After searching, without success, for any Britt Burns images released by the Vault, I had an idle thought: have any of the Vault ID experts put together a list, however loosely, of significant MLB players who have not appeared at all?

What I've learned about the Vault reading from posts here, I understand there are many envelopes waiting to be selected. I'm betting most of the long-time Vault observers have their own M.I.A. big-name players during the prime Vault years.

SPORTSMEM817 · 01-25-2017, 10:19 AM

Kenneth Wright, Obituary - Oak Lawn Funeral Home | Pensacola FL

dennis_keith · 01-25-2017, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Merkle923

Here's a find. This was among those 1969 images: the veteran catcher Doc Edwards in the uniform of the Phillies.

Edwards had caught for the Indians, A's, and Yankees from 1962-65 and then retired after four subsequent seasons in the minors to become a Phils' coach in 1970. But in June, Philadelphia had a catching crisis (they would ultimately go through five receivers, not one of whom started more than 44 games) and Edwards was activated.

He wouldn't have worn the traditional script/pinstripes as an active player in 1970 (the Phillies phased in the stylized "P" logo early in the '70 season before Edwards was activated, but he did wear this old style as a coach) but given that this is only the second color photo I've seen of him in a Philadelphia uniform - who's complaining?

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Thanks for the Doc Edwards photo. Shots of him as a Phillie aren't very common.

SPORTSMEM817 · 01-25-2017, 11:15 AM

Made this photo of him and colorized it.

Merkle923 · 01-25-2017, 07:42 PM

There are plenty of guys who started as pitchers and wound up in the outfield, but we don't see them like Willie Smith any more.

After 42 games as a pitcher, pinch-hitter, or pinch-runner with the '63 Tigers and '64 Angels, Bill Rigney stuck him in left, batting second, in the second game of a doubleheader on June 14, 1964. And before the season was out Smith would make 79 more starts in the outfield (and appear on a major league mound only four more times in a career that would stretch through 1971).

Like many 1964-66 era Angels, shots of Smith with the "CA" cap are few and far between. Dexter included him in its '66 Angels postcard set and a clean copy of the negative is below (there's also a Topps Vault of him in the 1966 attire. Topps had a lot of trouble with him: its '66 card shows him capless in a '65 Angels uniform; the '67, '68, and '69 cards show him in a Tigers uniform, dating to no later than spring training 1964).

Added because it's here is a new 1969 shot of Smith with the Cubs.

baseball-birthdays.com · 01-26-2017, 07:37 PM

Jeff Schneider, 1981 Orioles. Schneider made eleven relief appearances in the second '81 half-season and shared a rookie card with Cal Ripken and Bob Bonner in the 1982 Topps set. The image is a cleaned scan of a slide I have here somewhere...

Merkle923 · 01-26-2017, 10:44 PM

That collection of '69 Spring Training shots has some doozies, including four original San Diego Padres of whom next to no color exists.

Tony Gonzalez got into 53 games in San Diego before being dealt to Atlanta, but I don't think Topps caught him in a Padre uniform (there are two other San Diego players in the 5th Series of 1969, Jose Arcia and Al Ferrara, and each is shown in a shot taken at Padre Spring Training '69). There's at least one typically shaky Brace of Gonzalez with the Padres, so this is a huge improvement.

Merkle923 · 01-26-2017, 10:50 PM

The photographer-turned-pitcher from the Virgin Islands started the fifth game in Padre history, and then five days later was dealt to the Dodgers.

I believe Topps got him with San Diego but I can't find my notes. This one will suffice. I'm at a loss to explain the parking lot, but a bunch of the 1969 San Diego photos were taken in exactly this spot.

Merkle923 · 01-26-2017, 11:00 PM

Davis was gone before the Padres broke camp, dealt to Pittsburgh at the end of March where he'd end his career as the Bucs' fourth outfielder.

Merkle923 · 01-26-2017, 11:05 PM

And there's Selma - who started (and won) the first Padre game, and two weeks later was dished off to the Cubs where he would become a key reliever, and the man who bestowed the nickname "Bleacher Creatures" on the Chicago outfield fans.

A couple of early, blurry Topps Vaults of Selma with San Diego dribbled out years ago, but nothing of this quality. Or quantity. Of cars.

SDL · 01-26-2017, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Merkle923

The photographer-turned-pitcher from the Virgin Islands started the fifth game in Padre history, and then five days later was dealt to the Dodgers.

I believe Topps got him with San Diego but I can't find my notes. This one will suffice. I'm at a loss to explain the parking lot, but a bunch of the 1969 San Diego photos were taken in exactly this spot.

I actually REMEMBER that game with McBean. NBC aired it as a late afternoon (on the East Coast) Saturday Game Of The Week.

SDL · 01-27-2017, 01:09 AM

Correction in NN folder. NN1133 is Sandy Amoros, not Junior Gilliam.

FatJack · 01-27-2017, 05:35 PM

New baseball in the Vault, today, including Mr. Kealey with the Angels and Sox. Love the stache.

Merkle923 · 01-27-2017, 09:56 PM

The only reason I'm not certain that these are images of one of the great white whales of all-time is that we don't even have good "bad" photos of him.

Joe Goddard joined the Padres at the end of July, 1972, and the second-year pro spent the rest of the season as the team's third catcher, getting into just a dozen games. He was in camp with the Padres in 1973 and lingered in the minors until the start of the '76 season but never again appeared in the majors.

And none of the typical suspects photographed him. I didn't find him in my perusal of the Topps files a decade and more ago, and Brace didn't get him. Yet who turns up in today's Topps upload but an unidentified righty batter, who is shown in one image with what looks like the number 7 on the bottom of his bat, and in another wearing what appears to be a single-digit uniform. The Padres were only photographed in their all-mustard uniforms by Topps in spring training 1973, and who wore number 7 for the Pads in that camp?

Joe Goddard!

Compare him to the fuzzy little thumbnail black and white that turns up in a Goodard google image search and I think you'll agree it seems to be him (I believe there's another shot of him in a minor league team photo).

The good news is, if it's somehow not Goddard it's probably somebody even more obscure!

BTW numbers 197-200 look familiar from my years being slowly cooked by the sun of spring training with the Angels in Palm Springs but I'm just not seeing any clues.

Today's Topps uploads (KF): 167-168 Skip Jutze; 169-170 Ron Karkovice; 171-172 Steve Karsay; 173-176 Eddie Kasko; 177-178 Curt Kaufman; 179-180 George Kazmarek (Mets system, OF); 181-184 Steve Kealey; 185-186 Johnny Keane; 187-190 Ed Kranepool; 191-192 Jim Davenport; 193-194 Ray Jablonski; 195-196 Joe Goddard: 197-198 Chuck Gibbon (Angels System P); 199-200 Frank Panick (Angels System P); 201-202 Tom Seaver; 203-204 Jeoff Long; 205-206 Bill Spanswick.

Rainmaker · 01-27-2017, 11:50 PM

Joe Goddard was head baseball coach at Marshall, his alma mater, from 1976-2012. Here he is upon his induction into the school's Hall of Fame.

Same chin, for sure.

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Terry D · 01-28-2017, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Merkle923

Today's Topps uploads (KF): 177-178 Ray Krawczyk.

I think 177-178 is Curt Kaufman (Angels 1984), not Ray Krawczyk.

SDL · 01-28-2017, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry D

I think 177-178 is Curt Kaufman (Angels 1984), not Ray Krawczyk.

Definitely NOT Krawczyk

Merkle923 · 01-28-2017, 03:35 PM

It had already been changed to Kaufman.

Rainmaker · 01-28-2017, 06:35 PM

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DeweyintheHall · 01-28-2017, 07:14 PM

For reasons that pass all understanding, I'm expanding my interests from 1978 to include other years.

For 1977, looking for color images of these guys:
Orioles - Mike Parrott
Red Sox - Dave Coleman (something other than the yearbook head shot that's floating around), Ramon Hernandez
Indians - Cardell Camper, Alfredo Griffin, Bill Laxton and Sharman Society member Tom McGough
Brewers: Barry Cort, Rich Folkers, Ed Romero (in pre-78 unis) and Dan Thomas (have the image previously listed here)
Blue Jays: Mike Darr, Steve Hargan (have the posed head shot already posted here).

Thanks, and when I get to the Cardinals, I won't even think about asking for a Tom Underwood...

01-25-2017, 01:09 AM	#30081
Rainmaker Banned Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 432 Infractions: 0/1 (4)	Vault MIA? After searching, without success, for any Britt Burns images released by the Vault, I had an idle thought: have any of the Vault ID experts put together a list, however loosely, of significant MLB players who have not appeared at all? What I've learned about the Vault reading from posts here, I understand there are many envelopes waiting to be selected. I'm betting most of the long-time Vault observers have their own M.I.A. big-name players during the prime Vault years. Last edited by Rainmaker; 01-25-2017 at 01:19 AM.

01-25-2017, 10:19 AM	#30082
SPORTSMEM817 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 563	Kenneth Warren Wright, Jr Kansas City Royals Passes Away Kenneth Wright, Obituary - Oak Lawn Funeral Home \| Pensacola FL Attached Images

01-25-2017, 11:15 AM	#30084
SPORTSMEM817 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 563	Clarence Beers 1948 Cardinals Made this photo of him and colorized it. Attached Images

01-25-2017, 07:42 PM	#30085
Merkle923 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 2,098	Willie Smith 1963 There are plenty of guys who started as pitchers and wound up in the outfield, but we don't see them like Willie Smith any more. After 42 games as a pitcher, pinch-hitter, or pinch-runner with the '63 Tigers and '64 Angels, Bill Rigney stuck him in left, batting second, in the second game of a doubleheader on June 14, 1964. And before the season was out Smith would make 79 more starts in the outfield (and appear on a major league mound only four more times in a career that would stretch through 1971). Like many 1964-66 era Angels, shots of Smith with the "CA" cap are few and far between. Dexter included him in its '66 Angels postcard set and a clean copy of the negative is below (there's also a Topps Vault of him in the 1966 attire. Topps had a lot of trouble with him: its '66 card shows him capless in a '65 Angels uniform; the '67, '68, and '69 cards show him in a Tigers uniform, dating to no later than spring training 1964). Added because it's here is a new 1969 shot of Smith with the Cubs. Last edited by Merkle923; 08-04-2017 at 01:07 AM.

01-26-2017, 07:37 PM	#30086
baseball-birthdays.com All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 1,864	Jeff Schneider 1981 Jeff Schneider, 1981 Orioles. Schneider made eleven relief appearances in the second '81 half-season and shared a rookie card with Cal Ripken and Bob Bonner in the 1982 Topps set. The image is a cleaned scan of a slide I have here somewhere... Attached Images

01-26-2017, 10:44 PM	#30087
Merkle923 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 2,098	Tony Gonzalez 1960 That collection of '69 Spring Training shots has some doozies, including four original San Diego Padres of whom next to no color exists. Tony Gonzalez got into 53 games in San Diego before being dealt to Atlanta, but I don't think Topps caught him in a Padre uniform (there are two other San Diego players in the 5th Series of 1969, Jose Arcia and Al Ferrara, and each is shown in a shot taken at Padre Spring Training '69). There's at least one typically shaky Brace of Gonzalez with the Padres, so this is a huge improvement. Last edited by Merkle923; 08-04-2017 at 01:07 AM.

01-26-2017, 10:50 PM	#30088
Merkle923 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 2,098	Al McBean 1961 The photographer-turned-pitcher from the Virgin Islands started the fifth game in Padre history, and then five days later was dealt to the Dodgers. I believe Topps got him with San Diego but I can't find my notes. This one will suffice. I'm at a loss to explain the parking lot, but a bunch of the 1969 San Diego photos were taken in exactly this spot. Last edited by Merkle923; 08-04-2017 at 01:07 AM.

01-26-2017, 11:00 PM	#30089
Merkle923 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 2,098	Ron Davis 1962 Davis was gone before the Padres broke camp, dealt to Pittsburgh at the end of March where he'd end his career as the Bucs' fourth outfielder. Last edited by Merkle923; 08-04-2017 at 01:07 AM.

01-26-2017, 11:05 PM	#30090
Merkle923 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 2,098	Dick Selma 1965 And there's Selma - who started (and won) the first Padre game, and two weeks later was dished off to the Cubs where he would become a key reliever, and the man who bestowed the nickname "Bleacher Creatures" on the Chicago outfield fans. A couple of early, blurry Topps Vaults of Selma with San Diego dribbled out years ago, but nothing of this quality. Or quantity. Of cars. Last edited by Merkle923; 08-04-2017 at 01:08 AM.

01-27-2017, 01:09 AM	#30092
SDL Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 257	Correction in NN folder. NN1133 is Sandy Amoros, not Junior Gilliam.

01-27-2017, 05:35 PM	#30093
FatJack All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 847	Steve Kealey New baseball in the Vault, today, including Mr. Kealey with the Angels and Sox. Love the stache. Attached Images

01-27-2017, 09:56 PM	#30094
Merkle923 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 2,098	Joe Goddard 1972 (?) The only reason I'm not certain that these are images of one of the great white whales of all-time is that we don't even have good "bad" photos of him. Joe Goddard joined the Padres at the end of July, 1972, and the second-year pro spent the rest of the season as the team's third catcher, getting into just a dozen games. He was in camp with the Padres in 1973 and lingered in the minors until the start of the '76 season but never again appeared in the majors. And none of the typical suspects photographed him. I didn't find him in my perusal of the Topps files a decade and more ago, and Brace didn't get him. Yet who turns up in today's Topps upload but an unidentified righty batter, who is shown in one image with what looks like the number 7 on the bottom of his bat, and in another wearing what appears to be a single-digit uniform. The Padres were only photographed in their all-mustard uniforms by Topps in spring training 1973, and who wore number 7 for the Pads in that camp? Joe Goddard! Compare him to the fuzzy little thumbnail black and white that turns up in a Goodard google image search and I think you'll agree it seems to be him (I believe there's another shot of him in a minor league team photo). The good news is, if it's somehow not Goddard it's probably somebody even more obscure! BTW numbers 197-200 look familiar from my years being slowly cooked by the sun of spring training with the Angels in Palm Springs but I'm just not seeing any clues. Today's Topps uploads (KF): 167-168 Skip Jutze; 169-170 Ron Karkovice; 171-172 Steve Karsay; 173-176 Eddie Kasko; 177-178 Curt Kaufman; 179-180 George Kazmarek (Mets system, OF); 181-184 Steve Kealey; 185-186 Johnny Keane; 187-190 Ed Kranepool; 191-192 Jim Davenport; 193-194 Ray Jablonski; 195-196 Joe Goddard: 197-198 Chuck Gibbon (Angels System P); 199-200 Frank Panick (Angels System P); 201-202 Tom Seaver; 203-204 Jeoff Long; 205-206 Bill Spanswick. Attached Images Last edited by Merkle923; 02-21-2017 at 11:34 PM.

01-27-2017, 11:50 PM	#30095
Rainmaker Banned Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 432 Infractions: 0/1 (4)	Older Goddard Joe Goddard was head baseball coach at Marshall, his alma mater, from 1976-2012. Here he is upon his induction into the school's Hall of Fame. Same chin, for sure.

01-28-2017, 03:35 PM	#30098
Merkle923 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 2,098	It had already been changed to Kaufman.

01-28-2017, 06:35 PM	#30099
Rainmaker Banned Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 432 Infractions: 0/1 (4)	deleted Last edited by Rainmaker; 01-29-2017 at 10:01 PM.

01-28-2017, 07:14 PM	#30100
DeweyintheHall All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 727	1977 Images Needed For reasons that pass all understanding, I'm expanding my interests from 1978 to include other years. For 1977, looking for color images of these guys: Orioles - Mike Parrott Red Sox - Dave Coleman (something other than the yearbook head shot that's floating around), Ramon Hernandez Indians - Cardell Camper, Alfredo Griffin, Bill Laxton and Sharman Society member Tom McGough Brewers: Barry Cort, Rich Folkers, Ed Romero (in pre-78 unis) and Dan Thomas (have the image previously listed here) Blue Jays: Mike Darr, Steve Hargan (have the posed head shot already posted here). Thanks, and when I get to the Cardinals, I won't even think about asking for a Tom Underwood...