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Old 09-25-2019, 12:12 PM   #81
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The missing element in your calculation is the same card being sold multiple times. For instance, I have bought and then sold quite a few historical diamonds in my quest to collect only cards with no prior stats. Or people try out a card and don't like the performance.
The other thing missing from my calculation is that collections lock them away. Those things are harder to quantify, and you're right, I'm not taking that into consideration. But if you're hunting for Averill, I wouldn't count on a bunch suddenly showing up.
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Old 09-25-2019, 03:29 PM   #82
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Stop controlling the Kiddo Davis cards. Don't you have enough money already?



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Old 09-26-2019, 12:28 AM   #83
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Do you have any other teams ElementalKnight?
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Old 09-26-2019, 07:36 AM   #84
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Do you have any other teams ElementalKnight?
Ah, I was wondering when I was going to get this question. One license, three accounts, so three teams. All teams are FTP (I can provide evidence if this is important to people). I use the other two teams for market stuff as well. Both are perpetually in silver. They're not good point generators, and neither has had good pack luck either (no purchased packs; challenge mode packs only). I use those two teams for riskier flipping and for market scouting. I've never transferred points or players between teams, and I've never bid on an auction from another of my accounts. I've done my best to understand the rules as set forth by the devs and stay within them.
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OK.

The skeptic in me wondered if you funnelled all your talent into the Wonder Squares because I did not watch the whole video (yet, lol), but I didn't see...INCREDIBLE point gains on the pages I did view. I don't know about anybody else but I'm not overly skeptical to the point I want to see any further proof myself.
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Old 09-26-2019, 11:03 AM   #86
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OK.

The skeptic in me wondered if you funnelled all your talent into the Wonder Squares because I did not watch the whole video (yet, lol), but I didn't see...INCREDIBLE point gains on the pages I did view. I don't know about anybody else but I'm not overly skeptical to the point I want to see any further proof myself.
I actually thought more people were going to be skeptical along these lines. I'm happy to make transaction history videos for the Midgar Mako and Junon Cannons if people want. I'd like to think that my not having been banned is proof of following the rules. I'm not sure how to evidence that I only have one license, but multiple licenses wouldn't have been free-to-play in my book (I'm a PhD student—I don't have that kind of disposable income).

While watching the video, it might be easier to follow the balance as opposed to trying to follow individual transactions. It was a pretty constant cycle of reinvesting, and I typically made a purchase for my team when my balance got cushy enough, so it's hard to see huge gains on any one page. I think watching for those major purchases might be most helpful.
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I think I know what you mean...you had to populate your team, so you're utilizing the PP so no huge PP gains.
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Old 09-26-2019, 11:34 AM   #88
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I think I know what you mean...you had to populate your team, so you're utilizing the PP so no huge PP gains.
Yep, that's right. One of the things I considered doing was not spending any points on my team at all at first—literally trying to accumulate as many points as possible—and then purchasing the players I wanted all at once once I had enough PP to build the team I wanted. That would have better taken advantage of the snowball effect of capital. But once sims started, I decided that wasn't going to be very fun.
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The system doesn't even let you bid on auctions put up by a team on the same license, it will give you an error. I tried to transfer some lowly Bronze cards from one team to another at a fair price and it wouldn't let me. This was before I knew about the strict rules. Even so I suspect OOTPD is more interested in the outlier transactions.
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I think I remember them saying that the historical pull rate was 3/8 (37.5%). There are over 400 unique historical diamond cards in the game (probably closer to 450 now).

(1/30)*(3/8)*(1/400) = .00003125
So a few of things are "worse" than you mention above. There are actually 687 non-live diamond cards in the game (385 hitters, 302 pitchers), and I believe that the pull rate for lives is 70% rather than 5/8. Thus the equation should be:
(1/30)*(.3)*(1/687)= 1/68700=.00001456 for non-diamond packs. This might also be affected by the "size" of the diamond. Another thread has presented evidence that high diamonds (65-69) are more rare than low diamonds (60-64).
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So a few of things are "worse" than you mention above. There are actually 687 non-live diamond cards in the game (385 hitters, 302 pitchers), and I believe that the pull rate for lives is 70% rather than 5/8. Thus the equation should be:
(1/30)*(.3)*(1/687)= 1/68700=.00001456 for non-diamond packs. This might also be affected by the "size" of the diamond. Another thread has presented evidence that high diamonds (65-69) are more rare than low diamonds (60-64).
I thought it was 70% in PT 19 but 62.5% in PT 20. Not sure about that though.

Are there really 687 non-live diamonds? That's way more than I had thought. I must have underestimated how many have been added since release.

I'd be really surprised if diamond drop rates were different based on overall rating. Can you link what you're referring to? I'm curious.

But you're right, that only adds to the point that the drop rates for non-live diamonds are really low. Thanks for the info.
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I thought it was 70% in PT 19 but 62.5% in PT 20. Not sure about that though.

Are there really 687 non-live diamonds? That's way more than I had thought. I must have underestimated how many have been added since release.

I'd be really surprised if diamond drop rates were different based on overall rating. Can you link what you're referring to? I'm curious.

But you're right, that only adds to the point that the drop rates for non-live diamonds are really low. Thanks for the info.
It was 75% in 19, 70% in 20.
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