NBA 2019 Thread - Page 7

Déjà Bru · 12-07-2019, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by monkeyman576

Maybe someday the Knicks will figure out the problems not the coach.

You and she said it: "[The next guy] will be the 14th coach in 18 years. Something tells me the coach is not the problem."

Knicks' problems run much deeper than David Fizdale

There is only one way to explain such chronic failure. It's not the players and coaches who come and go over the years. It's not the general management who also turn over from time to time. It's ownership.

If ownership is stingy or stupid, it's going to persist season after season as they hire people in their own image, tie up the purse strings, and force down inane decisions and strategy (if any).

Much has been said about the Isiah Thomas era and the Phil Jackson era, and those guys were dumb enough, sure. But so is the current general management who couldn't manage to hang on to the one success story in recent years - Kristaps Porzingis - and failed to attract even a single top line free agent despite having plenty of cap room.

Why? Because who in their right mind would want to sign on with an organization that is run by James L. Dolan? His tenure as chairman of Madison Square Garden sports coincides neatly with this ongoing malaise.

I am convinced that until this man dies, retires, or sells the team, the Knicks will continue to be mediocre to terrible. At this point, I wish he would move the team someplace else. I would like to be a fan of the Brooklyn Nets but the Knicks get in the way.

Cobra Mgr · 12-07-2019, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

You and she said it: "[The next guy] will be the 14th coach in 18 years. Something tells me the coach is not the problem."

Knicks' problems run much deeper than David Fizdale

There is only one way to explain such chronic failure. It's not the players and coaches who come and go over the years. It's not the general management who also turn over from time to time. It's ownership.

If ownership is stingy or stupid, it's going to persist season after season as they hire people in their own image, tie up the purse strings, and force down inane decisions and strategy (if any).

Much has been said about the Isiah Thomas era and the Phil Jackson era, and those guys were dumb enough, sure. But so is the current general management who couldn't manage to hang on to the one success story in recent years - Kristaps Porzingis - and failed to attract even a single top line free agent despite having plenty of cap room.

Why? Because who in their right mind would want to sign on with an organization that is run by James L. Dolan? His tenure as chairman of Madison Square Garden sports coincides neatly with this ongoing malaise.

I am convinced that until this man dies, retires, or sells the team, the Knicks will continue to be mediocre to terrible. At this point, I wish he would move the team someplace else. I would like to be a fan of the Brooklyn Nets but the Knicks get in the way.

Which is why Knicks fans have to take ownership of the problem. As long as they buy tickets there is no reason for Dolan to change the way he operates or for him to sell the team.

Déjà Bru · 12-07-2019, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Which is why Knicks fans have to take ownership of the problem. As long as they buy tickets there is no reason for Dolan to change the way he operates or for him to sell the team.

Well, count me as a minority-share owner, then! For, I have not been to the Garden in a dog's age. Aside from one lucky game that I watched earlier this year (they won! - a mere 18% chance so far this season), I have not watched Knicks telecasts in a couple of seasons. So I agree. Force the SOB to sell the team. Easier said than done, though. Why people continue to go to Knicks games is mind-boggling to me.

Déjà Bru · 12-09-2019, 09:51 AM

Here's a small example of the ongoing incompetence of Knicks management with Dolan as the sole common denominator.

The team waited 48 hours, and only after prodding by the media, to issue the usual "thanks for your services" statement to David Fizdale. Why would they have waited to do so, if the man deserved such consideration - and he did because he had neither the time nor the resources to raise this Titanic - and then having to do so in an embarrassing manner?

Instead, they issued a one-line announcement at the time and thought that was sufficient. Or they didn't think at all.

The same media is already talking about front-office replacements. It doesn't matter because either Dolan will hire more dolts ("Doltans?") or he will meddle and undermine them, or both.

Cobra Mgr · 12-11-2019, 11:05 AM

Last night, Vince Carter played what should be his last game in Miami. Which reminded me of this.

Déjà Bru · 12-17-2019, 10:36 PM

Yes, folks, there are a couple of teams in the NBA who are even worse than the Knicks.

ezpkns34 · 12-17-2019, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Yes, folks, there are a couple of teams in the NBA who are even worse than the Knicks.

I'm going to call shenanigans if GS ends up with a top 5 pick

Déjà Bru · 12-18-2019, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ezpkns34

I'm going to call shenanigans if GS ends up with a top 5 pick

It doesn't appear that the Knicks are in that boat. I just watched a replay of that game (I did not see it live) and to be fair, I was impressed with how hard they played. This was something that was missing in recent years.

They also played well together, looking for the open man, deftly passing, playing unselfish. Sure it was against the Hawks, but they played with a determination and confidence to win. Playing like that, they would have made it tough for the Lakers. Well, let's not go overboard.

What I would like to see is them trying this hard in multiple games over time. What I don't want to see is them relaxing in the next game, resting on laurels, and getting blown out.

rudel.dietrich · 12-18-2019, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ezpkns34

I'm going to call shenanigans if GS ends up with a top 5 pick

This is looking like a pretty bad draft. I am not sure if there is much advantage to picking #3 over say #16
This is shaping up to be the weakest draft since 2013.

Déjà Bru · 12-18-2019, 02:01 PM

By the way, going back to that Knicks game against the Hawks, it was the final MSG appearance for Vince Carter. The fans gave him a nice ovation. He really was something.

24Rocks · 12-23-2019, 08:10 AM

Did anyone watch that 30 point comeback last night damm impressive

ezpkns34 · 12-26-2019, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Thought #2......How is anyone going to decide between Giannis, LeBron, Kawhi & Luka for 1st team all NBA?

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

Luka on basketball ref has split enough time between guard and forward to qualify for either.
And it depends on how many games Kawhi plays.
And Giannis has logged some minutes at center. I don’t think it will be enough to qualify him, but it’s worth looking out for.

Late to the thread, but the traditional 5 positions are really outdated now. So much switching on screens and so many who can shoot from distance and handle the ball. Things like All NBA Teams should mostly be about getting the best 5 players now (or next 5 best for 2nd Team, etc)

Cobra Mgr · 12-26-2019, 10:10 PM

Tell me what you hoopheads think

Video 1
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rudel.dietrich · 12-30-2019, 02:00 PM

This four game win steak by the Pelicans may mean we see Zion this season.
Sure they are 11-23
But the 8th seed Blazers are 14-19

As bad as it has been, the season is not lost for the Pelicans.

Cobra Mgr · 01-02-2020, 07:01 AM

You mad?

Déjà Bru · 01-02-2020, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

You mad?

On first viewing it looks like Lopez committed the error of appearing to be flustered with the confrontation only adding to his embarrassment. However, the replay at the end shows Culver flapping his stupid gums - in the words of the announcers, "Act like you've done it before" - and so he deserved the technical.

Déjà Bru · 01-02-2020, 10:10 AM

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Why, yes. Yes, it does.

rudel.dietrich · 01-02-2020, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

You mad?

From what I read Culver turned around and called him a 'pu**y bi**h'

I think most people would take exception to that. But no punches were thrown so not a big deal.
And that is one of the few Timberwolf highlights from an otherwise dismal year.

Cobra Mgr · 01-02-2020, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

From what I read Culver turned around and called him a 'pu**y bi**h'

If that is what was said, then I'd get it. If it was normal smack, shot blockers have to get thicker skin.

Edit: I went back & looked at it. I'm not a mouth reader, but it sure didn't look like that is what he said. It looked like he said "How about that?!". I think Lopez is just being a crybaby. His wittle feelin's got hurt.

rudel.dietrich · 01-03-2020, 05:30 PM

Michael Porter Jr. is looking like found money for Denver
The stats are not there yet. But watching him actually play significant minutes and my mind was saying 'holy ****' someone that large should not move that well or handle the ball so well.

If he can stay healthy then I can see a lot of teams regret not trying their luck on him.

12-09-2019, 09:51 AM	#124
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: United States Posts: 10,456	Here's a small example of the ongoing incompetence of Knicks management with Dolan as the sole common denominator. The team waited 48 hours, and only after prodding by the media, to issue the usual "thanks for your services" statement to David Fizdale. Why would they have waited to do so, if the man deserved such consideration - and he did because he had neither the time nor the resources to raise this Titanic - and then having to do so in an embarrassing manner? Instead, they issued a one-line announcement at the time and thought that was sufficient. Or they didn't think at all. The same media is already talking about front-office replacements. It doesn't matter because either Dolan will hire more dolts ("Doltans?") or he will meddle and undermine them, or both. __________________ - Bru

12-11-2019, 11:05 AM	#125
Cobra Mgr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Parts unknown Posts: 6,374	Last night, Vince Carter played what should be his last game in Miami. Which reminded me of this. __________________ If a man is guilty 4 what goes on inside of his mind, then let me get the electric chair 4 all my future crimes. - Prince Batdance June 7, 1958 - Apr 21, 2016

12-17-2019, 10:36 PM	#126
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: United States Posts: 10,456	Yes, folks, there are a couple of teams in the NBA who are even worse than the Knicks. Attached Images __________________ - Bru

12-18-2019, 02:01 PM	#130
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: United States Posts: 10,456	By the way, going back to that Knicks game against the Hawks, it was the final MSG appearance for Vince Carter. The fans gave him a nice ovation. He really was something. __________________ - Bru

12-23-2019, 08:10 AM	#131
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12-26-2019, 10:10 PM	#133
Cobra Mgr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Parts unknown Posts: 6,374	Tell me what you hoopheads think Video 1 Video 2 __________________ If a man is guilty 4 what goes on inside of his mind, then let me get the electric chair 4 all my future crimes. - Prince Batdance June 7, 1958 - Apr 21, 2016

12-30-2019, 02:00 PM	#134
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	This four game win steak by the Pelicans may mean we see Zion this season. Sure they are 11-23 But the 8th seed Blazers are 14-19 As bad as it has been, the season is not lost for the Pelicans.

01-02-2020, 07:01 AM	#135
Cobra Mgr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Parts unknown Posts: 6,374	You mad? __________________ If a man is guilty 4 what goes on inside of his mind, then let me get the electric chair 4 all my future crimes. - Prince Batdance June 7, 1958 - Apr 21, 2016

01-02-2020, 10:10 AM	#137
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: United States Posts: 10,456	Why, yes. Yes, it does. __________________ - Bru

01-03-2020, 05:30 PM	#140
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	Michael Porter Jr. is looking like found money for Denver The stats are not there yet. But watching him actually play significant minutes and my mind was saying 'holy ****' someone that large should not move that well or handle the ball so well. If he can stay healthy then I can see a lot of teams regret not trying their luck on him.