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11-15-2019, 05:28 PM | #1 |
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Changes to the IL
Apparently next season pitchers will return to a 15 day IL while hitters will remain at 10 days.
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11-15-2019, 06:35 PM | #2 |
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That's completely illogical. the 10-day DL (I know not PC) was a vast improvement that shouldn't be reversed. If anything the DL should be 5 or 7 days for both.
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11-15-2019, 06:50 PM | #3 |
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11-15-2019, 07:01 PM | #4 |
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How were they gaming the 10-day DL?
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11-15-2019, 07:25 PM | #5 |
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11-15-2019, 08:15 PM | #6 |
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If the moves were consistent with the rules, no gaming occurred. If the results were bad (open to interpretation) then it was a bad rule. Blame the right party.
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11-15-2019, 08:47 PM | #7 | |
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The phrase "gaming the system" almost always means using the rules in a way in which they were not intended. Politicians "game the system" by using the rules to their advantage. To claim no "gaming" occurred if no rules were broken is a disingenuous claim.
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If teams were using the ten day IL in order to effectively increase the size of their pitching staff, then they were, by definition, gaming the system. |
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11-15-2019, 09:13 PM | #8 |
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11-16-2019, 12:51 AM | #9 |
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Teams are basically using the 10 day injured list as a way to stash a reliever who doesn't have options left when they need to rotate a fresh arm into the bullpen. This is actually a great rule change to bring back fairplay on how the IL is supposed to be used
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11-16-2019, 06:20 AM | #10 |
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Wonder how this will work for 2 way players?
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11-16-2019, 09:11 AM | #11 |
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My guess is they will allow someone like Ohtani to come off the IL after ten days but will restrict him from taking the mound for five additional days. Just a guess though.
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11-16-2019, 02:51 PM | #12 |
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It's not so much that it's "PC", just that it's "C". This is true of most things that are labeled "PC".
A player isn't "disabled" when they pull a hamstring, break an ankle or tear a UCL. They're injured. And people that have an actual disability can certainly play in the MLB. As to the actual rule: A longer required IL stay incentivizes teams (and players) to ignore injuries. A shorter one allows for more gaming of the system (easier to have a guy skip one start than two). I'd be in favor of more of a taxi squad approach and then you can do away with the IL completely. Give a team 20ish active players per game - anyone from the 40 man roster - with a limit on the number of relievers. Starting lineup 8 (or 9) Bench 5 (or 4) Starter/Follower 1 Relievers 6-8 Then, teams can switch out the starter/follower and any other players they don't want to use the next game. Players can be moved on/off the active roster at will (no more options - this would also require changes to how service time is acquired (starting pitchers shouldn't lose service time on their rest days). If a guy is injured, then you just leave him off the active roster until he's ok (there'd still be a 60-day IL that would function just like the current one). Last edited by CBeisbol; 11-16-2019 at 02:54 PM. |
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