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07-05-2015, 04:51 PM | #1 |
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How competitive would Japanese teams be against MLB teams?
Just something I was thinking about earlier. Say if you were to take the top team in the Nippon and have them play a season in MLB, how competitive do you they'd be? The main reason I was wondering is because I was browsing through Ichiro's stats in Japan and was curious how his statistics might translate here.
Any thoughts?
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07-05-2015, 06:01 PM | #2 |
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It would be interesting to try it in OOTP. You'd have to control the Japanese team though, I would think, in order to keep the roster intact.
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07-05-2015, 07:47 PM | #3 |
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I would say the BEST Japanese team would probably win 50 games. The depth simply isn't there. Their 1-2 starters would probably be competitive, but they aren't winning many MLB games with AA or AAA equivalent pitchers. Same with their hitters. 2-3 decent hitters wouldn't string enough hits together to score many runs.
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I think a bit more highly of the Japanese clubs. I think the best there would be about a .500 ballclub over here. Never underestimate the power of competitive desire.
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Also, isn't Japanese baseball a tad different than MLB? Not so much apples to oranges different, but, perhaps pluots to plums different? MLB conditions would be different and require adjustments beyond jet lag.
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07-06-2015, 02:05 PM | #7 |
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Something to consider is that Japanese players are accustomed to more off days during the season. Both MLB and *** have a regular season about the same calendar length, approximately 182 days. But MLB plays 162 games over that period while *** plays only 143. That's 19 fewer contests.
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07-13-2015, 03:47 AM | #8 |
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I did a report on this in high school just a few years ago. Japanball.com was an excellent tool to use. The best comparison I've ever heard is that the Nippon League is like the MLB in the 1950s. They only allow 5 foreign players per team at the moment so there's not nearly the diversity that the MLB offers. Also not all the owners over there are worried about winning games so much as theyre worried about turning profits at their day jobs (every team is owned by a major corporation, the Tokyo Giants are actually the Yomiuri Giants and Yomiuri is a media company). That being said most experts say they're about as good as AAA.
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Being in Yokohama, I'd say the Bay Stars seem to be like upper tier triple a'. Though the SoftBank Hawks could compete for an mlb wildcard spot. They are head and shoulders above the rest of the pacific league.
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I feel they would have a disproportionate home/away record.
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08-06-2015, 04:36 PM | #12 |
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Maybe 30-40. Maybe.
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It comes down to depth, the skill gap in the *** is just a lot greater than it is in the MLB (star veterans playing against some 18-year-olds straight out of HS).
But the best of the best, be it SoftBank or Seibu or Yomiuri, have a pretty solid core of players - many of which are at the very least borderline MLB caliber. Watching them throughout the year, I would say those 3 are at the very least better than Detroit, Baltimore, and Kansas City. If the teams added 5-6 established MLB players, they could all push 70+ wins.
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I've always seen them referred to as AAAA, so the best Japanese teams would basically be on par with the Tigers/Orioles this year.
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11-03-2019, 01:30 PM | #15 |
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People said Japan would not be competetive in the World Baseball Classic, but they won two and placed third in the other two
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11-04-2019, 10:28 AM | #16 |
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The WBC is not representative though since it's a tournament, not a 162 game season, you don't get all of the best players and a lot of guys (especially pitchers) are going to be careful to avoid injury so as not incur a financial loss in their real league.
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11-04-2019, 12:09 PM | #17 |
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I'm not saying they would make the playoffs but I think a top tier Japanese team could get a .500 record. And then it would depend on if they had access to the MLB free agent/trade market.
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That's what I've been thinking, what rules would they be under? As think its 4 non Japanese players allowed on a 25 man roster, I'm betting most if not all MLB teams have more than 4 non Americans on their 25 man roster, betting Blue Jay's have way more than 4 non Canadians on theres.
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So the rules have shifted to where a Japanese league team would be competitive if they were no longer a Japanese league team
I was coming at this question by thinking they take the top Japanese team as is and letting them play a MLB season. If this was in OOTP injuries and transactions would be turned off. |
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A Japanese team would finish .500 at best imo but more than likely lower than that depending what league and division they were in but it wouldn't be a level playing field. |
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