Putting out feelers for a super-fast paced league.

Ekcut · 07-03-2008, 12:49 PM

My search for a fast-paced semi-historical league has come up empty. I am kicking around the idea of starting my own, but I first am looking to see if there is enough interest.

The league I would create would include the following.

-Run in OOTP9...game is mandatory
-Starting in 1920, with real teams & players, Game simmed from 1871 to end of season 1919....lottery to pick teams for all origional owners...winner gets 1st choice)
-Even markets to start
-Very fast sim schedule. Along the lines of
Mon-Apr
Tues-May
Wed-June (Ammy list released, forum drafting begins)
Thur-July up to Trade Deadline
Fri, Sat, Ammy draft continues/Trade days
Sun-Trade deadline passes, post deadline roster released.
Mon-Ammy draft completed, Sim Aug
Tues-Sim til end of reg season
Wed-Sim playoffs
Thurs-Season flipped, FA bidding begins
Fri, Sat, Sun-FA bidding, sim to opening day.
Repeat
(that is 1 season every two weeks realtime for those mathimatically challenged)
-Salary Cap (sure it isn't historical, but promotes parity and increases the FA pool)
-No mandatory writing or writing bonuses.
-No coaches/scouts
-Fictional minor leaguers
-Expansion as the league expands.
-No pick trading
-Ammy draft lottery with each team getting a weighted chance at #1. (16th place team gets 16 entries, 15th gets 15 etc etc World series champ gets 1 entry)
-

This is designed to be a "2nd league". Micromanagers would not be impresses with the ammount of control that must be given to AI managers. But those looking for "careers" will be more than happy. The 1st player you ever drafted will probably be retired by the time OOTP 10 is released! During that time, you may have won 5 pennants, and 5 basement finishes.
I have my micromanage leagues, but I also want a league that can pump out 20+ seasons in a real life year. There is something special about seeing a player that you drafted, retire and enter the hall of fame. (or a player that you drafted, nurtured and was the heart of your franchise for 15yrs all of a sudden ask for an outrageous contract forcing you to trade him)
I was in a league in OOTP 6, that was like this, and the closure of this league still haunts me and was the reason I left the OOTP world for a few years. It was THAT much fun!

This is NOT an open invite to start choosing teams....what I am interested in is seeing if there are others, like myself, who are interested in a fast paced league. If the interest is there, I'll start the wheels in motion.

Respond here, or send a PM if you have questions, suggestions.

Eric

Recte44 · 07-03-2008, 02:33 PM

What, ORB2's not doing it for you?

Recte44 · 07-03-2008, 02:33 PM

dola,

Sounds like something that would be better suited to a solo league. That's what I do for solo leagues.

doug melvin · 07-03-2008, 03:21 PM

I wouldn't recommend 'slotting' draft picks beyond the top 2-3 or so. This prevents tanking to get a specific player. Your scheme would give the four worst teams in the league a combined 42% chance of getting the top pick in the draft, which is really low (the best spect has less than a 50% chance of going to the teams that truly stink)

Ekcut · 07-03-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Recte44

What, ORB2's not doing it for you?

Hehe...ORB2 rocks! but it will take 2 or 3 seasons for a GM to make his mark on his team before it really gets interesting.

Ekcut · 07-03-2008, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Recte44

dola,

Sounds like something that would be better suited to a solo league. That's what I do for solo leagues.

Ahhh, but in a solo league no-one but you cares if the league lives or dies or if you win 5 World Series in a row. In an online league like this, you have 20 or 40 seasons of bragging rights!
I've been in a league like this before, and it blows solo leagues out of the water!

Recte44 · 07-03-2008, 09:52 PM

I think it would be a lot of fun, but might be hard pressed getting people to be able to be around that much. I'd love to see you pull it off!

Pete Grassi · 07-04-2008, 08:59 AM

I agree with Eric. The old NABL run by Dean Gordon was awesome. My team stunk for the first 8 years of the league then I went on a run of winning 4 titles in 6 seasons, all within 1 calendar year!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekcut

Ahhh, but in a solo league no-one but you cares if the league lives or dies or if you win 5 World Series in a row. In an online league like this, you have 20 or 40 seasons of bragging rights!
I've been in a league like this before, and it blows solo leagues out of the water!

Recte44 · 07-04-2008, 10:11 AM

I guess it's just not enough control for me.

Cowboys3356 · 07-04-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete Grassi

I agree with Eric. The old NABL run by Dean Gordon was awesome. My team stunk for the first 8 years of the league then I went on a run of winning 4 titles in 6 seasons, all within 1 calendar year!

That was the best OOTP league of all time. Nothing else has been even close to the level of quality found in Gordon's NABL.

I would support Eric's new league and recommend it to others because he is a top notch OOTPer and very dedicated to league play.

Ekcut · 07-04-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowboys3356

That was the best OOTP league of all time. Nothing else has been even close to the level of quality found in Gordon's NABL.

I would support Eric's new league and recommend it to others because he is a top notch OOTPer and very dedicated to league play.

Thanks...and as per our agreement, your family has been released unharmed.

Skywalker76 · 07-07-2008, 04:01 AM

Together with FORT the NABL was by far the best league I was ever in. I really thought that the fast pace of the league makes people stick around longer than in other leagues. Taking over a crappy team and building it into a contender doesn't take one year of real life but only a few weeks, which is much more exciting.

If you start please count me in!

bailey · 07-11-2008, 12:08 AM

I think that this is something I would enjoy also.

BaseballMan · 07-11-2008, 01:42 AM

I think its a good idea. I dont mind my solo leagues being slow because i know how far i will sim in it. But in the couple of online leagues i joined.
Well 1 was through before the first draft and the other i played for about 3 seasons and was getting the team built that i wanted but the league folded.
Its frustrating to put in the time and have a league fold. I dont care to join a league just to sim the 1920's. I would like to see more of baseball history covered. I dont think it should cover a whole season in 3 days but at the same time maybe cover 3 seasons a month. Of course it might be wise to be sure that everyone has maybe the weekends off or something. Because if your gonna sim fast it would be hard to get everybody for a draft.

scotto313 · 07-11-2008, 07:54 AM

This is pretty darn close to the way I run my Solo Leagues. I would love to be a part of a League like this!

Ekcut · 07-11-2008, 01:43 PM

After a few weeks of this add running, I have 8 potential owners.
It's a start! Enough that I will keep pursuing this idea, I just wanted to keep everyone in the loop.
I want to complete a season in an online OOTP 9 season beore commiting to anything yet...just to see all of the quirks/features of the OOTP 9 game in action.

ehencley · 07-13-2008, 01:02 PM

I would be interested if it was a fictional league.

Matty86 · 07-13-2008, 05:49 PM

I'd be interested. Regular leagues usually lose appeal to me, I like seeing things unfold in the long run and looking back at history, 6 months to finish 1 season in an online league drives me crazy, which is why for the most part I havn't been involved in them.

bp_ · 07-14-2008, 03:12 PM

I like your idea but I think trading would suffer from that many sims per week. If you did 3 sims a week with a month per sim there would still be room for some trade talk and time for those transactions to take place.

I also think you'd benefit from setting the draft pool to appear as early as possible and then using Getch's util to run the draft right away. Import what you finish by the draft and then use the in-game lists to finish the draft.

I also wouldn't fill the minors with fictional players if you are doing historical. Just do simple 3 level minors to start with until all teams could field full rosters there. Then add a short-season league.

I don't like the pick lottery.

If you end up doing something like this shoot me a PM.

bailey · 07-15-2008, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bp_

I like your idea but I think trading would suffer from that many sims per week. If you did 3 sims a week with a month per sim there would still be room for some trade talk and time for those transactions to take place.

The simming stops on the 1st Thurs, leaving a whole weekend for trade talk.

07-03-2008, 02:33 PM	#2
Recte44 Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oconomowoc, WI Posts: 2,754	What, ORB2's not doing it for you? __________________ Matt Rectenwald Commissioner, GM: Las Vegas Hustlers, The Brewster Baseball Association- fictional league (JOIN NOW)

07-03-2008, 02:33 PM	#3
Recte44 Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oconomowoc, WI Posts: 2,754	dola, Sounds like something that would be better suited to a solo league. That's what I do for solo leagues. __________________ Matt Rectenwald Commissioner, GM: Las Vegas Hustlers, The Brewster Baseball Association- fictional league (JOIN NOW)

07-03-2008, 03:21 PM	#4
doug melvin Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 91	I wouldn't recommend 'slotting' draft picks beyond the top 2-3 or so. This prevents tanking to get a specific player. Your scheme would give the four worst teams in the league a combined 42% chance of getting the top pick in the draft, which is really low (the best spect has less than a 50% chance of going to the teams that truly stink) __________________ http://cpl.shulermisra.org Last edited by doug melvin; 07-03-2008 at 03:32 PM.

07-03-2008, 09:52 PM	#7
Recte44 Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oconomowoc, WI Posts: 2,754	I think it would be a lot of fun, but might be hard pressed getting people to be able to be around that much. I'd love to see you pull it off! __________________ Matt Rectenwald Commissioner, GM: Las Vegas Hustlers, The Brewster Baseball Association- fictional league (JOIN NOW)

07-04-2008, 10:11 AM	#9
Recte44 Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oconomowoc, WI Posts: 2,754	I guess it's just not enough control for me. __________________ Matt Rectenwald Commissioner, GM: Las Vegas Hustlers, The Brewster Baseball Association- fictional league (JOIN NOW)

07-03-2008, 12:49 PM	#1
Ekcut Minors (Double A) Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 110	Putting out feelers for a super-fast paced league. My search for a fast-paced semi-historical league has come up empty. I am kicking around the idea of starting my own, but I first am looking to see if there is enough interest. The league I would create would include the following. -Run in OOTP9...game is mandatory -Starting in 1920, with real teams & players, Game simmed from 1871 to end of season 1919....lottery to pick teams for all origional owners...winner gets 1st choice) -Even markets to start -Very fast sim schedule. Along the lines of Mon-Apr Tues-May Wed-June (Ammy list released, forum drafting begins) Thur-July up to Trade Deadline Fri, Sat, Ammy draft continues/Trade days Sun-Trade deadline passes, post deadline roster released. Mon-Ammy draft completed, Sim Aug Tues-Sim til end of reg season Wed-Sim playoffs Thurs-Season flipped, FA bidding begins Fri, Sat, Sun-FA bidding, sim to opening day. Repeat (that is 1 season every two weeks realtime for those mathimatically challenged) -Salary Cap (sure it isn't historical, but promotes parity and increases the FA pool) -No mandatory writing or writing bonuses. -No coaches/scouts -Fictional minor leaguers -Expansion as the league expands. -No pick trading -Ammy draft lottery with each team getting a weighted chance at #1. (16th place team gets 16 entries, 15th gets 15 etc etc World series champ gets 1 entry) - This is designed to be a "2nd league". Micromanagers would not be impresses with the ammount of control that must be given to AI managers. But those looking for "careers" will be more than happy. The 1st player you ever drafted will probably be retired by the time OOTP 10 is released! During that time, you may have won 5 pennants, and 5 basement finishes. I have my micromanage leagues, but I also want a league that can pump out 20+ seasons in a real life year. There is something special about seeing a player that you drafted, retire and enter the hall of fame. (or a player that you drafted, nurtured and was the heart of your franchise for 15yrs all of a sudden ask for an outrageous contract forcing you to trade him) I was in a league in OOTP 6, that was like this, and the closure of this league still haunts me and was the reason I left the OOTP world for a few years. It was THAT much fun! This is NOT an open invite to start choosing teams....what I am interested in is seeing if there are others, like myself, who are interested in a fast paced league. If the interest is there, I'll start the wheels in motion. Respond here, or send a PM if you have questions, suggestions. Eric __________________ Everyday I break my own personal record for consecutive days without dying. Last edited by Ekcut; 07-03-2008 at 12:50 PM.

07-07-2008, 04:01 AM	#12
Skywalker76 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Miami Posts: 836	Together with FORT the NABL was by far the best league I was ever in. I really thought that the fast pace of the league makes people stick around longer than in other leagues. Taking over a crappy team and building it into a contender doesn't take one year of real life but only a few weeks, which is much more exciting. If you start please count me in!

07-11-2008, 12:08 AM	#13
bailey Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,130	I think that this is something I would enjoy also. __________________

07-11-2008, 01:42 AM	#14
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,272	I think its a good idea. I dont mind my solo leagues being slow because i know how far i will sim in it. But in the couple of online leagues i joined. Well 1 was through before the first draft and the other i played for about 3 seasons and was getting the team built that i wanted but the league folded. Its frustrating to put in the time and have a league fold. I dont care to join a league just to sim the 1920's. I would like to see more of baseball history covered. I dont think it should cover a whole season in 3 days but at the same time maybe cover 3 seasons a month. Of course it might be wise to be sure that everyone has maybe the weekends off or something. Because if your gonna sim fast it would be hard to get everybody for a draft.

07-11-2008, 07:54 AM	#15
scotto313 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,220	This is pretty darn close to the way I run my Solo Leagues. I would love to be a part of a League like this!

07-11-2008, 01:43 PM	#16
Ekcut Minors (Double A) Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 110	After a few weeks of this add running, I have 8 potential owners. It's a start! Enough that I will keep pursuing this idea, I just wanted to keep everyone in the loop. I want to complete a season in an online OOTP 9 season beore commiting to anything yet...just to see all of the quirks/features of the OOTP 9 game in action. __________________ Everyday I break my own personal record for consecutive days without dying. Last edited by Ekcut; 07-11-2008 at 01:47 PM.

07-13-2008, 01:02 PM	#17
ehencley Minors (Single A) Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 71	I would be interested if it was a fictional league.

07-13-2008, 05:49 PM	#18
Matty86 Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 401	I'd be interested. Regular leagues usually lose appeal to me, I like seeing things unfold in the long run and looking back at history, 6 months to finish 1 season in an online league drives me crazy, which is why for the most part I havn't been involved in them.

07-14-2008, 03:12 PM	#19
bp_ Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 2,804 Blog Entries: 1	I like your idea but I think trading would suffer from that many sims per week. If you did 3 sims a week with a month per sim there would still be room for some trade talk and time for those transactions to take place. I also think you'd benefit from setting the draft pool to appear as early as possible and then using Getch's util to run the draft right away. Import what you finish by the draft and then use the in-game lists to finish the draft. I also wouldn't fill the minors with fictional players if you are doing historical. Just do simple 3 level minors to start with until all teams could field full rosters there. Then add a short-season league. I don't like the pick lottery. If you end up doing something like this shoot me a PM. __________________ Commish: Over The Mound