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Old 08-07-2006, 03:06 AM   #101
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Cyclone Johnny Thompson

MH, hard to believe I have a guy in my DB that you don't. Not sure where I got him from at this point. I think his career ran from 1902-14 and I have him down as a MW. I'm pretty sure I found him at Cornerwork not in the "download" section but in the "encyclopedia" under Middleweights. I'm not real good with BoxRec numbers, but if you look him up, you will see he had a liferime mark of 29-18-8 and his nickname was the Sycamore Kid, which I just added to my file after I looked it up (so you won't see that info on the uploaded file which should be attached below).

Sorry for not responding sooner, just got back from my week at the World Boardgaming Championships in Lancaster, PA.
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Old 08-07-2006, 06:37 AM   #102
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Were you a participant in the championships? If so what game?
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Old 08-07-2006, 02:30 PM   #103
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Yes, I participated in about 14 different events over the course of the week and I have served as GameMaster for Puerto Rico, one of the largest events the past five years. Title Bout was on the agenda (it had been part of the Avalon Hill AvalonCon convention that was the predecessor to WBC) until a few years ago when it didn't make the cut (events are added and deleted based on prior's years attendance plus a membership vote every December). For complete information, here is the website for the group that runs it:

http://www.boardgamers.org

A bit of irony -- Lancaster where the WBC is held is original hometown of one Floyd Landis, the soon to be defrocked TdF winner. It was the final weekend of WBC that his positive B sample rest was announced, and driving out of town past a major shopping center they still had a "congratulations Floyd Landis" banner hanging there.

I will try to get back to these reports in a day or two. I may also be posting something on the WBC at the Boardgamegeek.com website, which is the premier discussion forum as well as database for boardgames.
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1912-Welterweights Part I

1912 WW Title Bouts

WBA

Joe Gans CH (62-13) vs Jack Britton #2 (25-4-1)

Thie bout would literally be the last hurrah for Gans, one of the all-time great LWs who also happened to capture the WW crown in my universe. Britton is trying to regain the World Crown and avenge a 1908 loss to the Old Master.

Britton dominates the early rounds, staying well out of the reach of the older Gans, who is slow to react. Round 3, Gans tries to move inside, cutting off the ring, but Britton works his way free off the ropes. The challenger repeatedly is scoring first, and it's clear that Gans' timing is off, and that the old magic is no longer there. Gans finally finds the range in round 6, but Britton comes on strong at the end of the round to negate those efforts. Britton continues, winning big in round 7, and swelling begins to set in around Gans' left eye. A frustrated and tired Gans begins looking for the KO punch, but Britton boxes his way to the title in a lopsided win. Britton by UD 15 (147-138, 149-136, 149-136).

Jack Britton CH (26-4-1) vs Eddie Shevlin #6 (15-0)

Shevlin, a top unbeaten prospect new to the top rankings, may be over his head in taking on Britton in his first title bout of any kind.

Britton dominates the first round action. Shevlin struggles to get his bearings, but puts in a decent effort in round 2. Both work outside in the third, and once again it is Britton, the "Boxing Marvel" with the upper hand. After a few lacklustre rounds, an aggressive Shevlin tries to penetrate Britton's excellent defense and is thwarted. It's a dominant round 6 for the champ as Shevlin's right eye starts to swell. Shevlin is cut above the right eye in round 9. Shevlin tires noticeably in the later rounds and the cut gradually worsens leading to a late round stoppage. A dominating performance by the Champ, though Shevlin proved he was not a pushover. Britton by TKO 12.

Jack Britton CH (27-4-1) vs Honey Mellody #4 (32-12-1)

Mellody scored a SD 12 over Britton for the USBA belt in the only prior meeting of th two back in 1908. This is Mellody's third crack at the WBA belt, losing to Walcott in 1905 and Gans in 1908. Mellody has won four in a row but this may be his last best shot as he hits Post-Prime career mode in 1913.

Jack Britton looks sharp early, taking the opening rounds by a wide margin. In round 4, a hard hook lands for the first clean blow for the challenger in a round otherwise dominated by Britton. Round 5, Mellody is even more aggressive, taking chances by lunging forward. A welt on the left eye of the challenger develops due to the repeated punishment meted out by Britton. Britton builds and huge points lead and coasts to victory in the later rounds. Britton by UD 15 (148-139, 146-139, 149-137).

NABF: Unbeaten Packey McFarland defended three times, winning all by KO. First up was aging vet, ex-Champ Joe Walcott, who managed to open a cut under the eye of McFarlnd before Packey put him down and out in the 8th. KO 8 for McFarland, and Walcott's career was over after 89 fights. Blink McCloskey accepted the challenge in his first title fight in 8 years, and McFarland quickly established dominance on the inside, dominating the bout and ending it with a lightning quick strike for a KO 9 win. Then it was Battling Bill Hurley, a long-time fringe contender, who was floored by Packey in the second with a wicked hook to the head -- the bout was halted shortly thereafter. TKO 2 win for McFarland to keep his unbeaten record intact.

USBA: Mike "Twin" Sullivan retained the USBA belt with a MD 12 win over Hurley, a hard-fought encounter which found Hurley taking charge early but fading near the end after a fine effort. Sullivan then defended versus Willie Lewis, in a bout decided when "Twin" opened a cut over the right eye of the challenger that finally led to a late stoppage -- TKO 10 win for Sullivan (cuts). Then Mike Glover, who lost to McFarland in his only prior title action, took on Sullivan, but could not deliver as Sullivan milked an early lead en route to a solid UD 12 win.

CBU: Johnny Summers defended versus fellow Brit, Young Joseph, and the bout was going Joseph;s way when a heat butt led to a DQ win in the 9th for Summers. Summers then risked the crown against youngster Ted "Kid" Lewis, an unbeaten prospect looking for his first title belt. No KDs in a bout that was close into the later rounds, and Summers escaped with a draw.

GBU: Summers took on another youngster Matt Wells, risking only the GBU belt this time. Wells exhibited strong defense and was ahead on all three cards when a low blow by Summers led to his disqualification in round 9th, making Wells the new GBU champ.

EBU: Young Joseph defended the crown against Denmark's Dick Nelson, in Nelson's third try at the European belt. Both worked inside early, and Nelson looked strong in the middle rounds. Joseph came on strong at the end, however, doing enough to secure a draw and retain this crown. Late in the year it was a challenge from French prospect Albert Badoud. who worked the inside, looking to land the big shot. The challenger suffered a cut above the left eye and began to tire in the latter half of the fight. UD 12 win for Joseph to keep the crown.
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1912-Welterweights Part II

Division Profile

Total Boxers: 87 Real Life: 42 TCs: 45

RL By Career Stage:

End: 0
Post: 5
Prime: 21
Pre: 13
Beginner: 3 (3 new in 1913)

Rated: 31
800+: 4
500+: 20
200+: 30

Jan 1913 Rankings (Perf Pts and Changes from 1912 in Parens)

Champ: Jack Britton 28-4-1 (13) (1177) (+2)
1. Packey McFarland 26-0-1 (17) (1235) (NC)
2. Mike Sullivan 33-12-4 (17) (893) (+5)
3. Willie Lewis 33-16 (19) (881) (+3)
4. Honey Mellody 33-13-1 (10) (799) (+4)
5. Dixie Kid 41-12-2 (19) (786) (NC)
6. Jimmy Gardner 30-10-3 (15) (732)(+4)
7. Mike Glover 18-5-2 (8) (730) (-4)
8. Ted Kid Lewis 15-0-2 (9) (723) (new)
9. Young Peter Jackson 48-13-3 (33) (658) (-5)
10. Dick Nelson 25-10-3 (17) (658) (+1)

Comments: The unbeaten McFarland has a higher Perf Pts number than Britton, the WBA champ. Gans, who was the champ this time in 1912, retired after losing the belt to Britton. Of the fighters listed, obviously Ted Kid Lewis is at Pre, Young Peter Jackson is at Post and Mellody hits Post for his first fight in 1913, his RL retirement year -- all the others are at Prime. Britton went 3-0 in the year, but his top challenger, McFarland, extended his consecutive win streak to 15 by beating Jimmy Gardner and Matt Wells in addition to the three NABF title defenses (see above post) to go 5-0 for the year. Mike Sullivan, the USBA champ, has now won four in a row. Willie Lewis went 4-1, stumbling only versus Sullivan and defeating Young Joseph, Glover, Whitney and Wells. Mellody was 3-1 for the year, besting Jackson, Clabby and McCloskey before the title bout loss to Britton. Dixie Kid was upset by Hurley, but did down Graves, Nelson and Shevlin. Jimmy Gardner was 2-1 in 1912, beating Clabby, Harry Lewis (TKO 2) but losing to McFarland. Losses to W Lewis and Sullivan dropped Glover in the rankings. Ted Kid Lewis is a bright new star, turning in a 7-0-1 record in a very active 1912: wins over Howell, Alberts, Matthews, Burns, Holberg plus a draw for the CBU belt. Jackson went 2-2, slipped further and may no longer be a factor now he is past his prime. Dane Dick Nelson moved back into the top 10 with a win over fellow Dane, Waldemar Holberg.

Other Notables: Eddie Shevlin debuts at #11 -- he was off to perfect 15-0 start but derailed with two losses to Britton and Dixie Kid -- perhaps some easier opposition is in order to facilitate a move into the Top 10. Summers, holder of the CBU belt, checks in at #13 wiht a 32-14-3 (16) mark and 606 pp. Right behind him at #14 is Young Joseph, whose record stands at 32-15-2 (13) with 592; Joseph dropped five spots, out of the Top 10, after suffering a TKO loss to Glover. Frenchman Albert Badoud debuts at #18 with a 13-2 (12) record, winning overBurns, Kelly and Evernden but losing to Kid Lewis and Joseph (the latter for the EBU belt). Matt Wells, the GBU titleholder, is #19 at 15-5 (1) and 520 pp, making 20 fighters at 500 pp and above in this talent-laden division. Just outside the Top 20 at #21 is another youngster, Jimmy Fryer, whose record is now 14-4 (8).

Prospects: Johnny Basham of the UK and Willie Schaeffer have identical 12-1-1 marks, Schaeffer has more KO wins (10 to Basham's 6). Basham defeated fellow prospect Tommy Howell but loss to Johnny Alberts (KO 6). Schaeffer's only loss havs been to Shevlin. Spike Kelly has compiled a 11-3 (7) mark. Art Magirl was a perfect 8-0 (8) when he was TKO'd on cuts by a TC for his first loss. Irishman Tom McCormick (whom I created) is now 6-0 (2) and Soldier Bartfield is 5-0 (3) -- all these wins coming against TCs.

Retirements: Three retirements and they were all former WBA champions. Career marks:

Joe Gans (USA) 1891-1912 62-14 (36) WBA LW and WW Champ
Joe Walcott (USA) 1890-1912 63-24-2 (21) WBA Champ
Matty Matthews (USA) 1894-1912 37-30-2 (15) WBA Champ

Looking Ahead: Certainly the most awaited match-up here would be between Britton and McFarland for the WBA title belt. Some of the younger guys who debuted in the rankings this time are in need of more experience before moving up to the next level, but Ted Kid Lewis could be in position to win a title (such as the GBU belt) soon. Newcomers for 1913 are Canadian Frank Barrieau, Aussie Tommy Uren and American Phinney Boyle.
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Anyone notice a change from the last time around? No D*ick Nelson -- the full name appears without those stars. Strange.
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1912-Lightweights Part I

1912 LW Title Bouts

WBA Title Bouts

Jack Blackburn CH (42-5-1) vs Freddie Welsh #2 (22-5-1)

Welsh has moved up to top contender status, and Blackburn is seeking to avenge a MD 10 defeat to Welsh (his last loss) some two years ago.

Both land well in the opening round, but Welsh pulls ahead with a strond roung 2. After a couple of lacklustre rounds, the Welsh Wizard moves inside in the 5th and pulls even further ahead. By the end of the 7th there is swelling under the right eye of the champ. Blackburn, trailing, gets more aggressive as the bout moves on, and Welsh could be playing it a bit too conservative. The bout is close into the late rounds, but Welsh pulls it out by a whisker to take the title. Welsh by UD 15 (144-143, 145-142, 145-142).

Freddie Welsh CH (23-5-1) vs Ray Bronson #7 (21-5-3)

Bronson's first title shot of any kind and it's for the World title. Welsh is out for revenge, having lost to Bronson back in 1906.

The usual feeling-out process means the action is slow to develop in the first few rounds. First blood (literally) to Bronson as a small cut appears just below the right eye of Welsh near the end of round 4. More problems for the champ in the 5th, when a picture-perfect uppercut by Bronson puts him on the canvas. Sustained pressure from the challenger in round 6, but Welsh's head has cleared, and he fends off Bronson. The cut on Welsh reopens, but the Welshman's blows cause swelling about the left eye of the challenger as well. Welsh gradually asserts control in the later rounds, and Bronson begins to tire noticeably. The end comes rather abruptly in the 12th when a severe cut opens above Bronson's eye, blood spurting everywhere--immediate stoppage is in order. Welsh by TKO 12 (cuts).

Freddie Welsh CH (24-5-1) vs Young Erne #6 (36-15-3)

First meeting of the two. Erne is actually coming off a loss to Willie Ritchie, but he was the highest available challenger.

The Welsh Wizard starts well in a busy first couple of rounds, scoring at will it seems. A gash appears under the right eye of the challenger in the 4th. Welsh keeps up the pressure and builds a huge points lead, re-opening the cut in the 7th. Good cornerwork keeps the cut under control until Young Erne tires in the later round, and the cut is reopened in the 13th and again in the final stanza when it becomes too bad for the bout to continue. Welsh by TKO 15 (cuts).

Freddie Welsh CH (25-5-1) vs Battling Nelson #2 (57-11)

Welsh takes on the ex-Champ, the Durable Dane, who is finally reached the downside of his career. Nelson has won three in a row since his last loss, to Welsh, for the EBU belt early in 1912. Welsh has a 2-1 career edge.

Welsh comes out firing from long range to take round one. After round 2, both men regroup and try to work inside. Welsh again comes out on top and there is some puffiness around the left eye of the Dane. Round 4, the Welsh Wizard is at it again, inflicting more punishment and a cut opens up on the forehead of Nelson. Nelson tries to mix it up on the inside again in the fifth, a good action round. But the cut reopens and it's a third cuts stoppage win in a row for the Welsh Wizard. Welsh by TKO 6 (cuts).

NABF: Lockport Jimmy Duffy takes on USBA champ Kid Black, who comes in on a 5-bout win streak. No KDs, Duffy administers a beating to Black who does well to keep it close. Duffy by UD 12 (116-113 on all cards). Duffy then defends against Jack Blackburn, a former champ, and Blackburn takes control midway through the bout, with a cut above the eye causing problems for Duffy. Blackburn lifts the belt with a convincing UD 12 win. Blackburn defends versus "Hop" Harry Stone, dominating the action right until the TKO 6 stoppage. Finally, Matty "Bunker Hill Bearcat" Baldwin gets a shot, and this one turns into a dominating UD 12 win for Blackburn after Baldwin is decked in the 7th.

USBA: Kid Black starts the year with the belt, defends versus Paul Koehler, gradually pulling ahead in the later rounds despite sustaining a cut over the eye early on. Balck then takes on Willie Ritchie, whose aggressive pays off when he opens a cut under the right eye of the champ. It's close right until the end when Ritchie rallies to take the last two rounds and the fight. Ritchie by UD 12 (114-113 on all three cards).

CBU: England's Jem Driscoll defended versus ex-CBU champ Fighting Dick Hyland of Canada. Driscoll gets nailed by Hyland in the 6th, gets off the canvas to dominate the rest of the way. UD 12 for Driscoll (117-110, 117-110, 116-111).

GBU: The dormant title was vacated by Welsh and Phil Bloom at 14-1 claimed the belt with a TKO 10 (cuts) win over TC Stan Nash.

EBU: This belt, too, was vacated by Welsh. Battling Nelson regained it when he defeated the veteran Swiss, Frank Erne, in a surprisingly close SD 12 (114-113, 113-114, 114-113) -- looked like Nelson was winning by a much greater margin during the bout.
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1912-Lightweights Part II

Division Profile

Total boxers: 109 Real-life: 56 TCs: 53

RL by Career Stage:
End - 2
Post- 7
Prime- 26
Pre- 15
Beginner - 6 (4 New in 1913)

Rated: 39
800+: 6
500+: 19
200+: 34

Jan 1913 Rankings (Perf Pts and Changes from 1912 in parens)
Champ: Freddie Welsh 26-5-1 (17) (1320) (+1)
1. Jack Blackburn 46-6-1 (18) (1300) (-1)
2. Jem Driscoll 43-7 (29) (1128) (+1)
3. Battling Nelson 57-12 (28) (1121) (-1)
4. Lockport Jimmy Duffy 21-2 (12) (945) (+1)
5. Willie Ritchie 22-6-1 (9) (844) (+12)
6. Young Erne 36-16-3 (14) (759) (-2)
7. Kid Black 32-16-2 (15) (699) (NC)
8. Harlem Tommy Murphy 26-12-1 (10) (671) (+2)
9. Matty Baldwin 29-13-2 (19) (669) (-3)
10. Fighting Dick Hyland 26-14-3 (665) (-1)

Comments: Everyone listed still at Prime, except Nelson who is at Post (this is based on retirement points at 30 or less, not his RL retirement year which was not until 1920). Maybe some ratings inflation, but LW is the deepest division numbers-wise and recently the top four guys haven't been losing to anyone except each other. Welsh has now won five in a row, his last loss to Driscoll who obviously would like to regain the WBA belt. Blackburn has won four in a row since his last loss, to Welsh. Driscoll has won four in a row since he lost the title in a 1911 bout with Young Erne. Nelson has begun to show signs of aging in his TKO loss to Welsh, that coming after successive wins versus Frank Erne, Aussie Herb McCoy, and Canadian Fighting Dick Hyland. Duffy was 2-1 on the year, enough to maintain his top 5 status despite losing the NABF belt to Blackburn. His TKO 5 win over Knockout Brown was his most impressive result of 1912. Ritchie leapfrogged into the Top 10, going 3-0 for the year, beating Douglas, Young Erne (gaining over 200 pp from this one fight), and finally Kid Black for the USBA belt. Young Erne registered a SD win over aging vet Jewey Cooke but then faltered, losing to Ritchie and Welsh. Black was 3-2 for the year, bouncing back after the Ritchie loss with wins over two lower ranked guys, Young Tommy Coleman and Chicago Dave Barry. Harlem Tommy Murphy suffered a MD 10 loss to Ad Wolgast but won two since then to put himself back in the picture. Baldwin stays up despite a 1-2 year (losing via DQ to Bronson as well as the title bout versus Blackburn) and Hyland hangs on despite a 2-2 year, his big win coming against Charley White. Note how close the pps are between guys in the bottom half of the Top 10.

Other Notables: Knockout Brown at #11 missed out on a shot at Top 10 status when he was TKO'd by Duffy -- his record is 20-5-1 (14); wins versus White and Wolgast highlighted his year. Ray Bronson is next up, losing in a title bid and only managing a draw with Aussie Herb McCoy. Wolgast, who seemed poised to make a move, defeated Jewey Cooke and Harlem Tommy Murphy, but the TKO loss to Knockout Brown has derailed his progress, at least temporarily. Charley White took a big tumble out of the Top 10, dropping nine spots to #17, with a dismal 0-3-1 year, losing to Hyland, KO Brown and FW champ Abe Attell. Cooke's slide continued as he has now lost 7 of his last 8, the only win versus a TC -- he is at #16 and a return to the top 10 seems unlikely. Aussie Herb McCoy got off to a 16-0 start before facing some tougher competition, dropping a MD 10 to Battling Nelson and drawing with Bronson. He debuts at #14, one spot behind Wolgast. Also new to the list this time are Phil Cross, debuting at #25 with a 15-3 (11) record, losing his last bout to Young Donahue after a strong KO win over prospect Joe Shugrue; and Willie Beecher, who checks in with a 13-5 (3) mark in the #30 spot, downing journeyman Johnny Frayne after losses to Kid Farmer and Mexican Joe Rivers earlier in the year. Finally, mention must be made of GBU champ Phil Bloom, who despite a 15-1 (7) mark, is only ranked #32 with just 230 pp. Why? His one loss (on a cuts stoppage) was to TC Nick Scanlon, and Scanlon actually beat a second RL opponent (Gilbert Gallant) on a foul, so he is ranked at #27 despite an overall 5-11-1 (1) record!

Prospects: Set to move into the rankings list soon is Mexican Joe Rivers, off to a fine 14-0 (8) start, scoring a KO 2 over Beecher to go win UD 10 wins against Shugrue, Terry Brooks and Special Delivery Hirsch -- looks like some stiffer competition is in order. Aussie Alf Goodwin is 13-1 (9), his only loss a MD 10 to Shugrue but he did defeat aging vet Art Simms in his last bout (and it turned out to be Simms' very last bout -- see retirement list below). Shugrue has had some tough fights already, and he stands at 10-3-1 (5) but is winless in his last three -- his best recent win was a TKO over Phil Cross. ATG Benny Leonard I have been bringing along slowly, but he has been very impressive compiling a 11-0 (8) mark thus far, defeating two real-life guys (Gene Delmont and Bobby Waugh) in addition to the TCs. Canadian Gilbert Gallant is 12-1 (6), the only set back that loss to TC Scanlon referenced above. Still unbeaten is Joe Welling at 8-0 (5), all versus TCs except for a win over Delmont. Rocky Kansas at 6-0 (6) and Frenchman Louis de Ponthieu at 5-0 (1) have prospered versus a steady diet of TCs.

Retirements: ATG LW Champ Gans is referenced in the prior WW post. Two others called it quits in 1912:

Frank Erne (SUI) 1891-1912 45-27-4 (30) WBA Champ highest rank: 3
Art Simms (USA) 1898-1912 27-31-1 (15) USBA Champ highest rank: 9

Note: These "highest rank" numbers refer to year-end ranks, as I obviously haven't tried to keep track on a more frequent basis.

Looking Ahead: Despite the pp gap between the 3-4 top guys and the rest, I still see this as a pretty fluid division and would not be surprised to see someone not even in the Top 10 at this point -- a guy like Wolgast, perhaps, to emerge. Ritchie who is already Top 10 looks like a title threat as well. A Welsh vs Driscoll rematch would appeal to the British fans. Look for Nelson to fade as his skills diminish, just as has happened with Jewey Cooke who was Top 5 for a long time until he hit Post-Prime. I'm deliberately bringing Benny Leonard along slowly, don't expect any title bouts until he hits Prime after 20 bouts. It maybe a different story for Mexican Joe Rivers, possibly. Look for Aussies McCoy and Goodwin to contend for the CBU crown, particularly if Driscoll vacates it should he manage to take on and defeat Welsh for the WBA title. Four new fighters (all Americans) join the ranks in 1913, led by Lew Tendler and Ever Hammer.
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1912-Featherweights Part I

1912 FW Title Bouts

WBA

Abe Attell CH (49-2-1) vs Owen Moran #7 (33-12)

Attell travels to London, where he meets the GBU champ, Moran, for the first time. Abe is seeking his 18th win in a row.

First few rounds were fairly even and uneventful as the action was slow to develop. Both move inside in round 4 to seek to control the action, and Attell gets the upper hand. Round 7 is a strong one for the Lil Champ, as he lands hooks and combinations to the head of Moran, who is lucky to remain upright. Moran tries to get more aggressive as the bout heads into the later rounds, but all he succeeds in doing is tiring himself out. No KDs as it goes the distance, another lopsided win for Attell. Attell by UD 15.

Abe Attell CH (50-2-1) vs Johnny Kilbane #3 (19-3-2)

On paper, it looks like one of Abe's sternest tests yet, as Kilbane forced him to a MD 15 a year ago and is much more experienced now.

Not much action in first three rounds -- Kilbane tries to force matters by moving inside but he just makes himself an easier target for Attell. Kilbane, after losing round 2, switches to the outside and does much better in the third, scoring well with the jab and a lunging right. Attell is back on target in round 5, landing repeated blows, and Kilbane retreats but cannot avoid a relentless barrage from Abe. The ref steps in to save Kilbane from further punishment, and Attell wins in a bout with no KDs where he was behind on two of three cards. Attell by TKO 5.

Abe Attell CH (51-2-1) vs Brooklyn Tommy Sullivan #1 (41-14-5)

After a brief foray to test the waters in the LW ranks (Attell won his 20th in a row over Charley White, see above LW report Part II), Abe returns to the FW ranks to defend against perennial #1 challenger, Brooklyn Tommy Sullivan. It's been over 10 years since Sullivan last held the belt, briefly, in early 1902, and this may be his last bout at Prime. Attell holds a 3-1 lead in prior meetings.

Attell looks sharp early and dominates the first two rounds. Brooklyn Tommy works his way inside in the third but Attell lands well from the outside to retain control of the bout. Round 7, trailing, Sullivan starts head-hunting and catches Abe off balance, forcing the Champ to cover up. Some slight swelling appears around the right eye of the champ at the end of the 7th. Sullivan continues his rally with another strong showing in round 8, rocking the champ but Attell remains vertical. In round 10, Abe deviates from his usual plan and works on the inside, scoring well but Sullivan keeps pressing the attack. Sullivan keeps the crowd on its feet as he racks up more points in round 11,as the swollen right eye clearly bothers the Lil Champ. Round 13, Attell tags Tommy with a big hook; by this time both men are tired, fighting on guts and instinct. By the end of the round, a huge one for Attell, Sullivan has noticeable swelling about his left eye. Attell hangs on through the last two rounds for a very narrow victory (and his 18th successful title defense of the WBA belt won in 1907) in a memorable bout, a great effort by both men. Attell by SD 15 (144-141, 141-144, 143-142).

NABF: Kilbane defended versus George KO Chaney, one of the hot new properties in the division. Chaney is aggressive from the start, but a split lip early plus some swelling about the left eye has his corner worried. Kilbane remains strong throughout, and Chaney is unable to penetrate his defense. Kilbane by UD 12. Next up is Leo Johnson, who comes in with a 15-1 mark but is way overmatched. Another UD 12 win for Kilbane.

USBA: Sullivan takes on Patsy Brannigan, another young up and comer in the FW ranks. Tommy has a strong start, staggering Brannigan with a hard hook in round one. A gash opens above the challenger's left eye in round 2, and it gradually worsens until a 6th round stoppage on cuts. Sullivan next takes on Grover Hayes, in a rematch of a 1911 USBA title bout that ended in a draw. Hayes looks ready as he puts Brooklyn Tommy on the canvas in round one. Sullivan battles back, flooring Hayes as the latter tires in round 10. But Tommy is too defensive in the last two rounds and the result is another draw.

CBU: Percy Cove defends against Billy Elliott of the UK. Elliott troubles Cove for a few rounds, but gradually the Canadian piles up the points and then decks the challenger in the late rounds as Elliott gets careless. Cove by KO 11. Aussie Joe Russell is up next, and Cove again establishes early dominance, retreating into a defensive mode to secure an easy UD 12 verdict. Then it's Owen Moran, who is coming off the WBA title loss to Attell. Cove seems to be winning when Moran comes on strong in the later rounds, causing some swelling around Cove's left eye. Cove battles back and does just enough to keep the title in a controversial SD 12 win.

EBU, GBU: Moran, holder of the GBU belt, takes on Elliott, the EBU champ, with both belts at stake. Moran starts well, taking the first four rounds but allows Elliott too much punching room in the 5th. A cut above ther right eye slows down Elliott, and Moran coasts to victory, with his superior stamina also a factor. Moran by UD 12 to take both belts.
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Best way to describe that last post would be Attell>everyone. Jeez, the man is on one heck of a run I wonder who will be the cat to finally break though and take Abe out.
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Attell hasn't been as good in my uni ... but he has been good. He is 35-10-3. He has had an amazing 17 title fights. He has struggled abit since moving up to LW he is 6-3-2.
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1912-Featherweights Part II

Interesting comments about Attell, who now stands as highest rated guy ever in my uni (over 1600 pp). Thought he was maybe headed to a loss in the bout with Kilbane, but that cut changed everything.

Unlike some of you who have posted on this, I haven't run into the issue of negative points for a win yet, probably because I do almost all manual pairings (I love being the matchmaker) and usually I try to keep them within a few hundred pp of each other. With Abe, this might be getting to be a problem but so far after every win he's picked up at least 15 pp or more despite the rankings difference. I've not tried moving him up to LW because, at least according to my Ring Record Book, he never fought for the LW title, unlike guys like Gans (strictly rated at LW in the game) who tried for the WW title, so generally I will only move a guy up if he's rated for the weight class in the game (like Moran and Driscoll) or if he moved up and tried for the title historically. Abe's foray into the LW ranks in 1912 was a one-off because that month there were just no credible FW contenders for his WBA belt. On to the report ...

Division Profile

Total boxers: 67 Real-life: 30 TCs: 37

RL by Career Stage:
End - 2
Post- 4
Prime- 12
Pre - 11
Beginner - 1 (0 New in 1913)

Rated: 23
800+: 3
500+: 13
200+: 21

NOTE: I may have explained this before, but right now in my Uni "rated" means at least 15 fights and a non-negative pp total. It can include TCs, though most have negative pp numbers after that many fights. There are a few RL guys with negative totals, and then I try to match them with TCs to give them a chance to get back on the positive side of the ledger.

Jan 1913 Rankings (Perf Pts and changes from 1912 in Parens)
Champ: Abe Attell 53-2-1 (22) (1640) (NC)
1. Brooklyn Tommy Sullivan 41-15-5 (24) (945) (NC)
2. Johnny Kilbane 21-4-2 (10) (915) (+1)
3. Patsy Brannigan 15-2-1 (7) (756) (+7)
4. Percy Cove 27-12-2 (9) (755) (NC)
5. Eddie O'Keefe 22-3 (15) (704) (-3)
6. Jimmy Walsh 26-11-1 (7) (695) (+5)
7. Grover Hayes 32-9-2 (22) (694) (-2)
8. Johnny Dundee 15-1 (9) (683) (new)
9. Kid Julian 15-3-3 (5) (663) (NC)
10. Leo Johnson 15-2 (9) (659) (new)

Comments: All listed are at Prime except for Sullivan, who hits Post in 1913 (his retirement year) and Brannigan and the two newcomers, Dundee and Leo Johnson, who are still at Pre. Attell, who now hasn't lost for seven years (last defeat a KO loss to Brooklyn Tommy in 1906) has the all-time high pp total. Brooklyn Tommy was only 1-1-1 for the year and probably not remain as #1 contender for long as aging effects kick in. Kilbane was 3-1 for the year, bouncing back with wins over Chaney and Leo Johnson after his title bout loss to Abe, he also had a UD 10 win over Kid Julian earlier in the year. Brannigan made great strides, leading up the rankings with a SD 10 win versus Percy Gove (gained 120 plus pp in that one bout alone) and a TKO 2 demolition of Jimmy Walsh. Cove won all three CBU title defenses but the loss to Brannigan means his status as a top contender is clouded with a question mark. O'Keefe had a 5-bout win streak snapped when he was KO'd in 8 by Leo Johnson, but through the vagaries of the ratings system, he is ahead of Johnson at year's end. Walsh is back in the Top 10 after a UD 10 win over Grover "Battler" Hayes, bouncing back from that earlier loss to Brannigan. Hayes dropped in the list after the loss to Walsh despite wins versus Snailham and Patsy Kline and the excellent result (a draw) against Brooklyn Tommy for the USBA title. Dundee has emerged from the ranks of the prospects, going 6 for 6 in 1912 with wins over Young Corbett, Criqui, Leo Johnson, Dixon, Crowe and Cobb -- his only loss was on a DQ to a TC earlier in his career. Kid Julian had wins over Bernstein and Kline but was held to a draw by Criqui. Leo Johnson rounds out the top 10, his four-bout win streak snapped when he lost to Kilbane for the NABF belt, but his big KO win over O'Keefe is what catapulted him to Top 10 status.

Other Notables: Owen Moran, the EBU and GBU champ, fell from #7 to #11 despite adding the EBU title. He stands at 34-14 (15) with 650 pp, just shy of the #10 spot. Veteran Young Corbett hit End career stage, plummeting from #6 spot to #12 with losses to O'Keefe and Dundee -- a return to the top 10 now seems highly unlikely. Bernstein, who was ranked #8 at last time, has retired. George "KO" Chaney debuts at #16 with a 12-3 (11) mark, despite losing three of his last four. Aussie Joe Russell is new to the rankings at #19 with a 13-4 (5) mark, he was 2-2 in 1912 but both his wins were against TC opponents.

Prospects: Frenchman Eugene Criqui is set to move into the list with a 12-1-1 (8) mark, his only loss to Dundee but wins versus Kline and Decker show he is ready to move up. Tommy Dixon has compiled a 9-3-2 (4) mark, the high point being a 10th round TKO of George Chaney but in his last two he has fallen short against Kid Julian and Leo Johnson. Lee Johnson (not to be confused with Leo) has compiled a 10-1 (3) mark, all versus TCs. Also being fed a steady diet of TCs are Steve Sullivan, at 7-0 (2); Kiwi Frankie Ellis, at 5-0 (1); Battling Reddy, at 5-0-1 (0) and 1912 debutant, KO Mars, who is 3-0 (0).

Retirements: Two notables, including one former WBA champ, hung up the gloves in 1912. Their career stats:

Aurelio Herrera (USA) 1898-1912 30-20-2 (27) WBA Champ
Joe Bernstein (USA) 1896-1912 37-25-2 (17) NABF Champ Highest rank: 4

Looking Ahead: Despite his loss to Attell in 1912, Kilbane remains my top choice to end Abe's win streak, but he may have to wait his turn as other contenders -- like Brannigan, O'Keefe and Walsh seek their first title shots. (Actually O'Keefe tried once before, a TKO 1 loss in 1911.) I would expect Kid Julian and Criqui to contend for the EBU belt, spicing up the competition in that arena. Johnny Dundee may be brought along slowly until he reaches career prime, but a challenge for a NABF or USBA belt in 1913 is not out of the question. Steve "Kid" Sullivan looks to be the best long-term prospect but there is a paucity of newcomers (none) to be added in 1913.
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I move fighters up when I feel they are stuck at a weight or are ready for a new challenge ... it's purely arbitrary. Then I use the moving weight chart on cornerwork.

I add a twist though .. the 4 categories that they can drop in I give them a 50/50 chance in each. I do a new rating record for the new weight.

Like Herrera was lucky when he moved up he didn't drop a point in any of the categories.

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Moving Up in Weight...

What I do for a guy that isn't listed with separate weight classes is to leave him with the division and when I set up the fight make sure the box that says "take into account weight class differences" is checked. Of course, there's a bit of a hassle when I do the rankings to put him in the weight class he's been fighting in (like with Gans moving from LW to WW) then remembering to change him back to his original weight class before the fight starts.

Will hopefully wrap this up with the Bantam and Fly reports tomorrow -- it's been a long week getting back into the swing of things.
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1912-Bantamweights Part I

1912 BW Title Bouts

Harry Harris CH (49-9-1) vs Frankie Burns #15 (14-5-1)

Burns' first title shot, and it is -- surprisingly --for the WBA crowd. Big age difference here, Burns is 23 and Harris is 40. Good chance for Burns given that Harris is aging and Burns has just hit Prime career stage.

Burns takes it to the Champ by working the inside early. Harris is on the defensive throughout the early rounds. Burns scores well to take round 4. Round five, Harris counters with a big hook that staggers the challenger. The bout is close going into round 6 as Harris tries to get more aggressive, with Burns content to exchange blows on the outside. Even round. Round 7, Burns comes on strong, forcing Harris to the ropes, and the champ barely hangs on. Another big hook scores for Harris in round 10, but such isolated shots can't make up for the fact that Burns is pulling ahead on the scorecards. Burns sews it up by putting Harris on the deck twice in the 13th en route to a comfortable UD 15 win to take the title, making it five new BW champs in the last five WBA title bouts. This looks like Harris' swansong, at least at the World class level. Burns by UD 15 (148-136, 148-135, 146-137).

Frankie Burns CH (15-5-1) vs Charles Goldman #7 (16-8-2)

Not the toughest possible challenger for Burns in his first defense, but Goldman is the new NABF champ. Burns won prior meeting, UD 10 in 1911.

Action is slow to develop in first few rounds. Burns starts connecting from the outside in round 3, causing some swelling to develop around Goldman's right eye. Burns then works inside to do more damage. Goldman, trailing, tries to work inside himself in round 6, but Burns holds him off. Burns re-establishes control from the inside in the 7th, scoring well as Goldman is forced to give ground. Burns goes on the build up a points lead, and Goldman tires noticeably as the bout heads into the later rounds. Burns tries hard for the KO in the 12th, but a game Goldman hangs on. The outcome, though, was never in doubt. Burns by UD 15 (147-138, 143-142, 146-139).

Frankie Burns CH (16-5-1) vs Johnny Coulon #1 (29-3-1)

First meeting of the two -- Coulon, the ex-Champ, is a slight favorite, being more highly rated (perf pts wise) and going unbeaten (4 wins and a draw) sincer losing the WBA belt to Phila Pal Moore in late 1910.

Both men are content to stay on the outside for the first few rounds. It's a strong round 3 for Coulon, a portent of things to come, and Burns is carrying his hands low as a result. In the 5th, Burns changes tactics and tries to work inside, and wins the round -- causing some swelling just outside the right eye of the challenger. Coulon, who is fighting a more defensive bout, dominates the middle rounds. Burns steps up the attack to score well on the inside again in round 9, but by now his corner is concerned with some swelling about the left eye caused by Coulon's blows. Burns goes for the KO in round 10 but Coulon dominates the round. Coulon then puts Burns on the canvas in the 11th and hangs on to regain his World title by a wide margin. Coulon by UD 15.

NABF: Frankie Conley starts off 1912 as the champ and defends versus Young Oliver, who despite not having 20 bouts, is actually rated at Post-Prime given 1912 was his retirement year (my info has his career a short one, from 1910-12). Anyway, a cut above the right eye of Oliver eventually spells his doom, and it's a TKO 10 (cuts) win for Conley. Frankie then takes on Charles Goldman, seeking to avenge an earlier loss in 1908. Once again, Goldman proves a rough customer, and this time it is Conley who is cut early and loses on a stoppage. Goldman by TKO 6 (cut) -- tough break for Conley who was holding his own on the scorecards. Goldman then defends versus ex-WBA champ Phila Pal Moore, who establishes his jab early and goes on to take the belt in a punishing bout. Moore by UD 12 (116-112, 117-111, 116-112).

USBA: Coulon defends versus Phila Pal Moore, in another bout ended in a cuts stoppage, this time in favor of Coulon, via TKO 11. Then it was a surprisingly tough time with Monte Attell, Abe's younger brother, where Coulon took a MD 12 verdict (116-112, 114-114, 116-112). Coulon vacated the belt after becoming WBA champ. Late in the year it was Conley matched with unbeaten newcomer "Kid" Williams for the vacant title. The bout was close throughout, no KDs but lots of good action. Williams annexed the crown and stayed unbeaten with a razor-thin SD 12 win (118-111, 113-115, 115-114).

CBU/GBU: One unification bout, once again it was those long-term rivals from the UK, Joe Bowker and Digger Stanley. Bowker got off to a good start, Stanley could not get on track, and finally a shot to the head by Bowker ends it in the 10th. Bowker by KO 10 to take both belts.

EBU: Stanley defends against Frenchman Charles Ledoux, the first EBU title action for the BWs in three years. Ledoux is the aggressor from the start, and Stanley has no answer as he's leveled by a vicious hook midway through round 4 and then goes down two more times before the ref calls a halt. Ledoux by TKO 4.

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1912-Bantamweights Part II

Division Profile

Total Boxers: 64 Real Life: 29 TCs: 35

RL Boxers by Career Stage:
End - 3
Post - 5
Prime - 13
Pre - 5
Beginner - 3 (2 New in 1913)

Rated: 23
800+: 1
500+: 14
200+: 22

Jan 1913 Rankings (Perf Pts and Changes from 1912 in Parens)

Champ: Johnny Coulon 30-3-1 (15) (1026) (+1)
1. Kid Williams 16-0 (11) (743) (new)
2. Charles Ledoux 20-1 (17) (723) (+9)
3. Harry Harris 50-10-2 (32) (687) (-3)
4. Philadelphia Pal Moore 20-3-2 (9) (674) (-2)
5. Frankie Burns 16-6-1 (7) (651) (+10)
6. Monte Attell 22-13-2 (12) (602) (+3)
7. Kid Murphy 26-12-1 (18) (601) (-4)
8. Biz Mackey 34-13-3 (12) (581) (-3)
9. Al Delmont 32-12-2 (15) (578) (-1)
10. Joe Bowker 32-17-4 (16) (556) (+6)

Comments: All listed above at Prime, except for Williams (still at Pre) and Harris (now at End career stage). Coulon won three in a row in 1912 to return to the top spot, and he appears to be solidly atop the division going into 1913. Kid Williams has a perfect record but only scraped by with a SD 12 win over Conley for the USBA belt, indicating some more seasoning may be in order before attempting a title clash with Coulon. His 7-0 blitz of the division in 1912 included wins over Eddie Campi, Hugh McGovern and a KO 6 over Kid Beebe, hardly the class of the division right now. Ledoux, on the other hand, has hit Prime stage and, as EBU champ, appears to be a worthy challenger for the WBA belt right now. He has won his last 5, including 4-0 in 1912, scoring a TKO 7 over Murphy and UD 10 win over Feltz. Harris has started a fast decline, but he did manage a KO win over Harry Forbes, another aging vet. Phila Pal Moore was 2-2 for the year, racking up a win over Biz Mackey but faltering in a MD 10 upset loss to Brit Digger Stanley. Burns rocketed into the top 10 by knocking off Harris for the WBA belt, but he dropped a bit after losing the title to Coulon. Monte Attell was 2-2 for 1912, winning a UD over Campi and a SD over Murphy but losses to Forbes and Coulon kept him from moving up more. Murphy, despite a 1-2 year, remained on the list, his big win a TKO of Delmont. Mackey went 2-2 in 1912, sporting wins over Bowker and Neil but losses to Pal Moore and Kid Beebe hurt him. Delmont started the year off well, wins over Hugh McGovern and a TKO versus Felts, but that TKO loss to Murphy kept him from advancing. Bowker, the new CBU champ, rounds out the top 10 with a 3-1 year, bouncing back from a loss to Mackey to down H McGovern, Oliver and then Stanley in the unification (CBU/GBU) title bout.

Other Notables: Frankie Conley dropped out of the Top 10, down 8 spots to #12 after two straight, tough losses to Goldman (cuts stoppage) and Kid Williams (SD 12). Tommy Feltz also fell 8 spots down to #14, going 0-3 for the year. Hugh McGovern, 0-4 for the year, took a huge tumble, down from #7 to #21. New to the rankings (in addition to Kid Williams) are Eddie Campi, at #11, with a 14-2 (11) record, bouncing back after a SD loss to Williams with a KO of TC Jeff Purcell and a UD 10 win over Feltz. Young Oliver is #13 at 15-3 (13), but unfortunately the aging effects may prevent him from moving up much. Goldman, who held the NABF title for awhile, is #16 at 16-10-2 (8). Lots of second line depth in the rankings, as everyone in the top 20 has at least 400 pp, but many ranked #11-20 are either Post or End career stage, so it's an aging group of vets going into 1913.

Prospects: Jack "Kid" Wolfe tops the list, compiling a 8-0 (4) mark, all versus TCs. Robert Dastillon of France and the UK's Joe Fox are each 6-0-1 after drawing with each other and defeating all six TC opponents; Dastillon has more KOs (5 to Fox's 3). Pete Herman debuted in 1912, but only fought twice, winning both by KO.

Retirements: None in 1912. However, look for the two Harrys (Harris and Forbes) and possibly also Frankie Neil, all now at End stage, to perhaps hang 'em up i1n 1913, barring unforeseen circumstances.

Looking Ahead: Williams may not be ready to contend for a WBA crown until he hits Prime; Ledoux, who is at Prime, may be ready to take on Coulon this year. Harris is fading and unlikely to be a factor much more. Burns, after tasting success in 1912, seems a likely candidate for a NABF or USBA title belt. Look for Frankie Conley (who is still at Prime) to return to the Top 10 in 1912. But older guys, like the two McGoverns (Hugh and Phil), Frankie Neil, Harry Forbes, and Tommy Feltz have seen their best days and are unlikely to return to the top 10 list. Two of the younger guys, Young Oliver and Charles Goldman, are also at Post-Prime now. Two newcomers grace the division in 1913, Johnny "Kewpie" Ertle, who held a share of the World title in real life, and Memphis Pal Moore, who did not. Memphis Pal Moore appears to have the higher ratings, however, which should make it interesting. Still, right now it looks like a time for attrition as more guys are at End career stage than there are new guys coming in.
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1912-Flyweights

Finally, to the Flyweights. Maybe jumped the gun a bit but went ahead with the first WBA Flyweight Title Bout, so that comes first on the report.

WBA Title Bout

Bill Ladbury #1 (23-3-1) vs Frankie Mason UNR (11-3)

Matched together Ladbury, the CBU and GBU champ, with emerging US flyweight, Frankie Mason, for the inaugural WBA belt in this division. Mason, who earns the title shot despite two losses in the past year to #2 Sid Smith, is a decided underdog going in to the more experienced Ladbury.

Except for one good shot landed by Mason in round one, Ladbury as expected dominates the first two rounds with superior boxing skills. Mason moves inside to try to change things in round 3, and he catches Ladbury with a blow that opens a cut above the right eye of the champ. Mason continues to probe for openings in round four. In the 5th, the cut above Ladbury's eye is reopened, and he continues to be bothered by the cut in round 6, as it's clear Mason is targeted the right eye. Round seven, Ladbury makes the mistake of stepping into a strong cross by Mason and surprise -- he's floored for the count. (At the time of the knockout, Ladbury was ahead on two of the three cards.) Frankie Mason is the first WBA Flyweight Champion winning via KO 7.

CBU: Ladbury defended once, versus Australian TC Craig Mann, and he took charge early, ending it with a KO in the fourth.

GBU: Ladbury defended against TC Kyle York and, despite an early pummeling, the rugged York seemed determinaed to last the distance. Final result: UD 12 win for Ladbury (118-111, 117-111, 118-110).

No more titles (NABF, USBA, and EBU) are active yet in this division.

Division Profile

Total Boxers: 26 Real-Life: 9 TCs: 17

RL by Career Stage:
Prime: 3
Pre: 6
Beginner: 1 (0 new in 1913)

Ranked: 3
800+: 0
500+: 0
200+: 3

Jan 1913 Rankings -- only three guys ranked, so it's a short list:

Champ: Frankie Mason 12-4 (9) (399) (new)
1. Bill Ladbury 23-4-1 (11) (458) (NC)
2. Sid Smith 19-5 (10) (411) (NC)

Comments: Mason swept up the title bout from Ladbury despite those earlier two losses to Smith, then he stepped up to BW and actually LOST a SD 12 to Phil McGovern, which is why his PP totals are below the other two. Ladbury had won 11 in a row before the loss to Mason. Smith's two wins versus Mason would seem to justify a title shot, but then he suffered a TKO 8 loss to emerging British contender, Jimmy Wilde (see Prospects below).

Prospects: Wilde was unbeaten, his key win coming versus Smith (TKO 8) until he suffered a SD 10 loss to fellow prospect Percy Jones. Wilde's record now stands at 13-1 (13) as he knocked out all his other opponents. So his career has hit a snag. Jones, victor over Wilde, has compiled a 8-2-1 (6) mark, his losses coming to Joe Symonds in early 1912 and to Tancy Lee earlier in his career. Joe Symonds checks in at 8-0-2 (5), winning five in a row after a draw with Jones early in 1912. Among those five wins were victories over Jones and Lee. Tancy Lee has compiled a 7-1 (4) mark, his only loss to Symonds. Earl Puryear is still unbeaten at 7-0 (1), feasting on a steady diet of TCs. Young Zulu Kid debuted in 1912 and won his one contest convincingly by KO.

Retirements: You've got to be kidding, division is just a few years old. No retirements yet.

Looking Ahead: The theme emerging, if there is one, is uncertainty at the top. Mason KOing Ladbury for the WBA belt was a surprise, and it's hard to see Mason keeping the belt for too long. Jimmy Wilde is the top long-term guy to rule the roost, but he's still a ways from hitting his prime. Look for Ladbury or Smith to put the WBA belt in safekeeping until Wilde is ready. Symonds, Jones and Lee are possible future contenders as well. No new guys coming in for 1913, so look for Young Zulu Kid to keep gaining experience.
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1912-Wrapup and Pound-For-Pound

Finally, here's the top 10 Pound-for-Pound list for 1912. As usual, perf pts and then changes from last year are in parens.

1. Abe Attell, FW (WBA Champ) (1640) (NC)
2. Sam Langford, HW (WBA Champ) (1587) (NC)
3. Freddie Welsh, LW (WBA Champ) (1320) (+4)
4. Jack Blackburn, LW (NABF Champ) (1300) (NC)
5. Jack Johnson, HW (USBA Champ) (1264) (-2)
6. Packey McFarland, WW (NABF Champ) (1235) (+4)
7. Tommy Burns, HW (NABF, CBU Champ) (1185) (-1)
8. Jack Britton, WW (WBA Champ) (1177) (new)
9. Sam McVey, HW (no title) (1132) (new)
10. Jem Driscoll, LW (CBU Champ) (1128) (-1)

Dropped out from last year:

Joe Jeannette, HW (was #5)
Battling Nelson, LW (was #8)

NOTE: Britton and McVey were "new" only in the sense they were not on the list for the prior year (1911). Both were in the pound-for-pund list the year before (1910), and are returning after a year's hiatus.

Comments: Now there are 14 guys with 1000 or more pp, a slight but not huge increase over prior years. As these guys keep winning, the pp numbers grow, but if there's a big upset, could see the numbers go down. In a division like the HW, where there are several 1000 plus pp fighters, it's less likely to see that happen as they would most likely lose to each other.

Looking forward to hopefully start setting up Jan 1913 matchups later today or tomorrow. Did add one new LW (just posted recently by icetea) not mentioned in the above report (Johnny Ray) who is due to make his debut later in the year. Expect a longer turn-around, however, as I plan to run the 1913 bouts at a much more leisurely pace. Seems each new year in the Uni takes a bit longer to run. So my long-term goal of hitting the roaring twenties by New Years may be a bit unrealistic. Will keep plugging away as the game is still alot of fun for me.
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Anyone notice a change from the last time around? No D*ick Nelson -- the full name appears without those stars. Strange.
I think the filter was adjusted about one month ago - it's to have Dick Hyland and Bruce Woodcock back!

I like the annual summary format JC and am looking forward to next year's Flyweight post. Wilde, Percy Jones, Tancy Lee and others will set it off on a competitive run.
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1913-Heavyweights Part I

Unforunately, this time it took MUCH longer than anticipated, but finally have completed the action for the year 1913 and without further adieu ...

1913 HW Title Bouts

WBA

Sam Langford CH (42-5-1) vs Sam McVey (35-8-2)

Three prior meetings in Langford's favor, with two wins and one draw. Langford has rung up 14 wins in a row since the draw with McVey in 1909, and McVey has won 5 in a row since in a 1911 draw with Tommy Burns.

Langford catches McVey on the ropes in the very first round, pummeling him with two knockdowns but at the round's end, a dazed McVey is still standing. Round two, Langford goes for the kill, but McVey puts defense first, holding on to last the round and also stay upright. Round three, Langford continues pressing the attack, but McVey nails him with a good shot. Round four, not much action as the two trade blows from the outside. McVey moves inside and launches a successful body assault to take the next round and pull even on the unofficial scorecard. Round six, an overly aggressive McVey is caught with a strong shot from Langford, and he goes down for the 8-count, and is unable to recover in time as the ref steps in to halt the bout. Langford by TKO 6.

Sam Langford CH (43-5-1) vs Frank Moran #6 (22-6)

Langford's 10th title defense versus Frank Moran, who has won four in a row, including an impressive KO of Jeff "Joplin Ghost" Clarke. First meeing of the two, pitting one of the top Great White Hopes versus one of the great black fighters of the era.

Round one, Moran lands an uppercut, but Langford rips a hook to the body of the Pittsburgh Dentist, fairly close round but a slight edge to the Champ. Round two dominated by strong defense from the Boston Tar Baby. Langford presses forward in the third, ripping a cut above the lip of the challenger. Moran turns more defensive in the fourth, allowing Langford room to land his shots, and he continues to dominate. Moran finally lands a good shot in the fifth, and Langford is forced to retreat. Emboldened, Moran surges forward in the sixth, but Langford adopts a defensive posture and is able to re-open the cut late in the round. In round 7, Langford is more aggressive, and the cut is once again re-opened, leading to a quick stoppage. Langford by TKO 7 (cut).

NABF: Tommy Burns defended the belt once during the year, against an aging but dangerous Denver Ed Martin. Burns mixed up this attack, staggering Martin in the fourth, opening a cut over the eye of the challenger in the fifth, finishing it with a devastating hook to the head for a KO 7 win.

USBA: Jack Johnson started as the US champ, but time finally caught up with the aging great when Joe Jeannette came back after suffering an early knockdown to register a UD 12 win, dominating the rest of the bout. Then Jeannette defended versus aging Jim Jeffries, in a bout where Jeff took a fearful beating, it being halted by TKO in the 11th when Jeff's left eye was swollen shut from the punishment admistered by Jeannette. This proved to be Jeffries' final bout of his career. Jeannette then took on Sam McVey, scoring a knockdown in the first with a wicked uppercut and following up with a second KD in the 3rd plus two more KDs for good measure later in the bout, en route to a lopsided UD win (117-107 on all three cards). Finally, Jeannette gave Jack Johnson a rematch late in the year, dominating the early action and doing enough to squelch any comeback efforts by the former champ in a bout with no knockdowns. Jeannette by UD 12 (116-112, 117-111, 117-111).

CBU: Burns was active enough to defend this belt versus fellow Canadian Arthur Pelkey, coming out strongly to floor the younger man in the opening round. Pelkey landed one good shot in round 4 but was down again in the first and finished with a late-round KO in the 6th. Burns retains the belt.

GBU: William "Iron" Hague regained the belt he had held from 1908-1911 by ousting Gunner Moir, who was making his first defense in 18 months. Hague stunned Moir with a 5th-round KO, then he went on to defend versus hot prospect Bombadier Billy Wells, scoring with KDs in the fifth and final rounds which was enough to secure a UD 12 win (114-112, 116-110, 115-111) although it was a good effort by Wells, who had his moments in the bout.

EBU: Moir also put his EBU belt on the line, and tough unbeaten German prospect Otto Flint was there to take it from him. Moir hurt his hand in the second round and things quickly got worse as Moir floored him twice in the fourth, Gunner going down for the count the second time. Flint by KO 4. The German defended versus Brit Victor McLaglen late in the year, but McLaglen was hampered by a cut above the eye and suffered two trips to the canvas in the 5th and 8th rounds before Flint delivered the coup-de-grace in the 9th. Flint by KO 9 to retain the European belt and remain undefeated.
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