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10-12-2020, 12:13 PM | #1 |
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RIP Joe Morgan
Back to back MVP awards - and just that insane batting eye. I came to baseball in the mid 80s and didn't grasp how good he was until much later, having missed his prime.
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10-12-2020, 12:16 PM | #2 |
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RIP, Joe
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/j...er-dead-at-77/
It's been a rough couple of weeks in the obituary column, and another piece of our youth is gone away. RIP, Joe...
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10-12-2020, 12:20 PM | #3 |
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10-12-2020, 12:28 PM | #4 |
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"Joe Morgan was the greatest second baseman to ever play the game." -- Joe Morgan
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10-12-2020, 01:05 PM | #5 |
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I don't know whether it's a good sign or not when you look at a thread title or a headline like this and you say "What? What happened to him?" And then you look him up and realize that he was 77 and he essentially died of old age.
It's bad when you see people die who, in your mind, just recently were playing ball or at least announcing ballgames (25+ years doing that alone!). But it's good if you are not counting the years, particularly in regard to yourself, and such news does indeed come as a surprise. Time passes quickly; make good use of it and keep your eyes trained forward.
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10-12-2020, 01:10 PM | #6 |
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Sad news, but can we keep these types of posts to the Talk Sports forum? Thanks.
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10-12-2020, 02:00 PM | #7 |
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Dear 2020,
Deleted. Yer boy, action
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10-12-2020, 02:01 PM | #8 |
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Also, RIP Mr. Morgan, and condolences to your family and friends.
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10-12-2020, 02:42 PM | #9 |
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Sad day. In his prime he was the best all round player in the game.
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(And if that seems mean, you know damn well Joe would be agreeing with me right now).
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10-12-2020, 03:21 PM | #11 |
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Don't even have to go peak on that one. In the time period between his rookie season in 1965 and his final season in 1984, you could argue there wasn't a better position player in the game than Joe Morgan. A lot of great players played over that 20 season period. Joe Morgan may have been the best of them, which is really saying something.
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10-12-2020, 03:29 PM | #12 |
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I'll go even further. Tom Seaver was the pitcher of the seventies, and Joe Morgan was easily the position player of the seventies. There were so many ways he could beat you. What a player.
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10-12-2020, 03:35 PM | #13 |
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As a Reds fan, I always enjoyed watching Joe play. Possibly even more, however, I loved listening to him as a broadcaster. He had chances to be a coach, but wasn't interested and always seemed to be thoroughly enjoying himself behind the mic.
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Primarily in the Big Red Machine's title winning seasons of 1975 & 1976, and for about 31% of his career, Joe hit in the #3 spot, where he drove in an average (over 550 AB's) of 91 runs, drew 117 walks, scored 103 runs, hit 20 homers, and stole 42 bases. His decent but perhaps underwhelming .271 career batting avg is offset, IMO, by the number of walks he drew, especially in his heyday years. He was also a bit of late-bloomer. Although a decent player over his first several seasons in Houston, he didn't start building his HOF resume until he arrived in Cincinnati (adding more power, getting more hits & walks, and become an elite base-stealer). And after that he probably hung around a bit too long. While we don't generally define a player's legacy by only considering his best years, it's worth noting that from 1972-1977, he may have been the most dangerous offensive player in the game.. Last edited by thehef; 10-13-2020 at 12:51 AM. |
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10-12-2020, 04:07 PM | #15 |
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From 72-77 Morgan had a 162 wRC+
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10-12-2020, 04:21 PM | #16 |
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I was too young to see him play, but I greatly enjoyed his color commentary with Jon Miller. Very sad to hear of his passing.
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10-12-2020, 04:29 PM | #17 |
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Yes indeed. I was really sad to hear this news.
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10-12-2020, 04:47 PM | #18 |
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I suppose that it is just the general stress and malaise talking but it sure seems like we are losing a larger than normal number of greats this year. Did they all get together and decide 2020 was the year to check out?
RIP Joe (Someone had to be the patron saint of counting stats!)
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10-12-2020, 06:16 PM | #19 |
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Easily in the conversation as being among one of the best second basemen of all time.
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10-12-2020, 06:51 PM | #20 |
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Definitely on Mt. Rushmore at 2B with Rogers Hornsby, Eddie Collins, and Nap Lajoie.
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