OOTP and Sega part company! - Page 6

thehatfield · 09-21-2007, 02:30 PM

I for one am happy for the change and wish nothing but the best for Markus & Andreas and for Marc & SI. I've been a supporter of SI from when they were publishing ChampMan all the way through the latest Football Manager and was one of those who were really excited that both of my favorite games would be under the same umbrella. But as the relationship went on it seemed there was always an "arm's length" between the two; especially with the relative inactivity on the SI community board regarding OOTP (aside from the odd xenophobic "joke" at our expense in The Third Half). So I like the break... it had already happened in my mind so now I don't seem quite so crazy.

RchW · 09-21-2007, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Well, we will probably not get a MLB license because it comes with too many restrictions. However, I am 99% sure that we will ship with real player names next year, as MLBPA lost a recent lawsuit that basically allows us to do this

Reading between the lines it seems that SI/Sega risk tolerance for putting real names in was too low vs what risk Markus takes on his own. Small guys like BM and OOTP developments are not worth the lawyers fees to go after. Based on that alone the split makes business sense for both.

Markus would it be accurate to say that you may have an unofficial ongoing relationship with SI? Just not the partnership that could lead to shared liability. Strike that, you probably couldn't answer it anyway.

battists · 09-21-2007, 03:02 PM

The newsletter e-mails are going out as we speak, but there's a lot of them. Delivery times may vary. And remember, they're going to whatever e-mail address you registered when you bought the game, not what your forum account is registered as!

I'll post the newsletter on the forums later on tonight, I think.

There will also be a second newsletter (which frankly has juicier news) next week. Just out of time this week!

Jeremy Weimer · 09-21-2007, 03:48 PM

Good news!

theasfl · 09-21-2007, 03:57 PM

Im not gonna dig through the 6 pages of replies (I made it through 1.5ish I think), but I applaud you (Id have the clapping smiley if this wasnt a quick reply, I'll try to guess though: ::clap:: ) for going to back to the number system. Wanna make v07 v8 in the 3rd patch?

Solack · 09-21-2007, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

blah, blah, blah...
There will also be a second newsletter (which frankly has juicier news) next week. Just out of time this week!

You're such a tease! Guess I'll be camping out the forums and my e-mail for the next week...

Charlie Hough · 09-21-2007, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerry58

Yes but as you probably know, they (MLB) appealed.

Gerry

Yes, there was an appeal filed, but the case is a lost cause. The original judge's decision was made based on extensive case history involving simulation games and publication of player information in the public domain. MLB has basically no chance of winning, but it will go through the motions and hope for a miracle.

Altus · 09-22-2007, 01:54 AM

Does this mean that ITP 2 is back on the agenda?

Neags23 · 09-22-2007, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by battists

The newsletter e-mails are going out as we speak, but there's a lot of them. Delivery times may vary. And remember, they're going to whatever e-mail address you registered when you bought the game, not what your forum account is registered as!

I'll post the newsletter on the forums later on tonight, I think.

There will also be a second newsletter (which frankly has juicier news) next week. Just out of time this week!

Still no newsletter here... should it take 12 hours?

Andreas Raht · 09-22-2007, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Neags23

Still no newsletter here... should it take 12 hours?

Hi! I've uploaded a copy of the latest newsletter to our server: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/newsletters/nl0033/

The next newsletter will come on Monday I guess

robster1225 · 09-22-2007, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Andreas Raht

Hi! I've uploaded a copy of the latest newsletter to our server: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/newsletters/nl0033/

The next newsletter will come on Monday I guess

Thanks Andreas, because I didn't recieve it either.

spiffamous · 09-22-2007, 10:23 AM

I also never received the newsletter, so thanks for the link.

Matt

CMH · 09-22-2007, 11:23 AM

That's odd. I've received every newsletter prior to this one. Don't know why it didn't come through.

Perhaps it hasn't been sent yet.

Tony M · 09-22-2007, 11:24 AM

Me neither. Thanks for the link Andreas...

dsvitak · 09-22-2007, 11:43 AM

I am thrilled with this development.

I had NOTHING but problems with Marc Duffy and his company...up to and including being banned from his forums for having a yahoo.com e-mail account.

Good riddance to rubbish. OOTP Developments doesn't need ignorant and arrogant trash like that.

bp_ · 09-22-2007, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by robster1225

Thanks Andreas, because I didn't recieve it either.

me either and I've always received them in the past

Anisoptera · 09-22-2007, 12:55 PM

I don't see why they waited to post it. The people who check the boards everyday should get news first. Shouldn't email newsletters should be more to remind customers of the product of news that they might not otherwise find out about?

DougWyatt · 09-22-2007, 01:31 PM

This is very strange. I didn't receive the newsletter, and I always have gotten them in the past.

Possibly .. it hasn't been sent yet ?

Kaitiaki · 09-22-2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DougWyatt

Possibly .. it hasn't been sent yet ?

Battists posted earlier in this thread that they went out at around 2-3 PM yesterday. Also, there's a link in a post by Andreas above to an HTML version of the newsletter, so they're clearly done.

- Kai

DougWyatt · 09-22-2007, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaitiaki

Battists posted earlier in this thread that they went out at around 2-3 PM yesterday. Also, there's a link in a post by Andreas above to an HTML version of the newsletter, so they're clearly done.

- Kai

Yeah, I was just foolin' about. Kinda pokin' a little fun at the 30 or so people that said the same thing

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09-21-2007, 02:30 PM	#101
thehatfield All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: dirty jerz Posts: 1,339	I for one am happy for the change and wish nothing but the best for Markus & Andreas and for Marc & SI. I've been a supporter of SI from when they were publishing ChampMan all the way through the latest Football Manager and was one of those who were really excited that both of my favorite games would be under the same umbrella. But as the relationship went on it seemed there was always an "arm's length" between the two; especially with the relative inactivity on the SI community board regarding OOTP (aside from the odd xenophobic "joke" at our expense in The Third Half). So I like the break... it had already happened in my mind so now I don't seem quite so crazy. __________________ AFBL - Maryland Bridegrooms SBC - Western Suburbs Magpies no pressure no problem

09-21-2007, 03:57 PM	#105
theasfl Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Coral Springs, FL or Orlando, FL (UCF) Posts: 7,988	Im not gonna dig through the 6 pages of replies (I made it through 1.5ish I think), but I applaud you (Id have the clapping smiley if this wasnt a quick reply, I'll try to guess though: ::clap:: ) for going to back to the number system. Wanna make v07 v8 in the 3rd patch? __________________ All-Sports Fantasy League The ASFL 22 different games, 9 sports. Please check out the website (www.theasfl.com/asfl2/). The league is free- if you're interested please fill out the signup form and/or email the commissioner. Miami Talons (ABL): 2004, 2005 & 2008 Champs

09-22-2007, 01:54 AM	#108
Altus Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 192	woo hoo Does this mean that ITP 2 is back on the agenda?

09-22-2007, 11:24 AM	#114
Tony M Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Here Posts: 6,156 Blog Entries: 3	Me neither. Thanks for the link Andreas... __________________ This signature is intentionally blank

09-22-2007, 12:55 PM	#117
Anisoptera Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 169	I don't see why they waited to post it. The people who check the boards everyday should get news first. Shouldn't email newsletters should be more to remind customers of the product of news that they might not otherwise find out about? Last edited by Anisoptera; 09-22-2007 at 12:56 PM.

09-21-2007, 03:02 PM	#103
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506 Blog Entries: 7	The newsletter e-mails are going out as we speak, but there's a lot of them. Delivery times may vary. And remember, they're going to whatever e-mail address you registered when you bought the game, not what your forum account is registered as! I'll post the newsletter on the forums later on tonight, I think. There will also be a second newsletter (which frankly has juicier news) next week. Just out of time this week!

09-21-2007, 03:48 PM	#104
Jeremy Weimer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 3,411	Good news!

09-22-2007, 10:23 AM	#112
spiffamous Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 135	I also never received the newsletter, so thanks for the link. Matt

09-22-2007, 11:23 AM	#113
CMH Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,057	That's odd. I've received every newsletter prior to this one. Don't know why it didn't come through. Perhaps it hasn't been sent yet.

09-22-2007, 11:43 AM	#115
dsvitak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,870	I am thrilled with this development. I had NOTHING but problems with Marc Duffy and his company...up to and including being banned from his forums for having a yahoo.com e-mail account. Good riddance to rubbish. OOTP Developments doesn't need ignorant and arrogant trash like that.

09-22-2007, 01:31 PM	#118
DougWyatt All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,117	This is very strange. I didn't receive the newsletter, and I always have gotten them in the past. Possibly .. it hasn't been sent yet ?