Real Baseball question

Bill Seiko · 07-22-2012, 04:50 PM

Seeing how A batter can be out on foul ball caught why are they not out on any foultip to catchers mitt?

Bill

Curve Ball Dave · 07-22-2012, 05:18 PM

A foul tip, as defined by the rules (Rule 2.00) is a strike. It is not the same as a foul ball.

Cryomaniac · 07-22-2012, 07:49 PM

And you are out on a foul tip if it's the third strike (although it's counted as a strikeout).

tejdog1 · 07-22-2012, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

And you are out on a foul tip if it's the third strike (although it's counted as a strikeout).

It's a strikeout, so there's no putout recorded. Ala on a foul pop to third, I believe it's recorded as F5. F2 for catcher, etc... there is no F2 on a foul tip third strike.

CecilCooper · 07-25-2012, 04:25 PM

tejdog - Kind of nit-picky... but catchers do get the credit of the putout for fielding stats on all strikeouts.

I don't know how true this is or not, but I remember hearing (back in little league days) something about shoulder height in terms of pop-foul-out or a 'foul tip'.

blueturf · 07-25-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CecilCooper

I don't know how true this is or not, but I remember hearing (back in little league days) something about shoulder height in terms of pop-foul-out or a 'foul tip'.

That is not necessarily true. A foul tip by definition goes directly from the bat to the catcher's glove. (It can also be a foul tip if it first hits the catchers glove and then is corraled before hitting the ground - if it hits anywhere by the hand or glove first it is a foul ball. I once tossed two coaches on the same play because I called a foul ball when the catcher trapped the third strike after it first hit his chest protector. Threw out the manager and then the assistant picked up the same argument and he got run as well.) In essence it is the umpire's judgment of whether the ball went directly to the mitt, so yes a ball above the shoulders would be judged to be a foul fly.

07-22-2012, 04:50 PM	#1
Bill Seiko Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 31	Real Baseball question Seeing how A batter can be out on foul ball caught why are they not out on any foultip to catchers mitt? Bill

07-22-2012, 05:18 PM	#2
Curve Ball Dave Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,271	A foul tip, as defined by the rules (Rule 2.00) is a strike. It is not the same as a foul ball. __________________ "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn.

07-22-2012, 07:49 PM	#3
Cryomaniac Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hucknall, Notts, UK Posts: 4,902	And you are out on a foul tip if it's the third strike (although it's counted as a strikeout). __________________ Last edited by Cryomaniac; 07-22-2012 at 07:50 PM.

07-25-2012, 04:25 PM	#5
CecilCooper Major Leagues Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 444	tejdog - Kind of nit-picky... but catchers do get the credit of the putout for fielding stats on all strikeouts. I don't know how true this is or not, but I remember hearing (back in little league days) something about shoulder height in terms of pop-foul-out or a 'foul tip'.