No outs, man on third - Page 5

blueturf · 07-20-2012, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

So what is a "ball hit to 4M"?

Assuming that OOTP uses the same locations from Retrosheet, this link will prove very helpful.

Retrosheet Hit Location Diagram

Cryomaniac · 07-21-2012, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tds787

Agreed but to be fair there are billions of variations of a billion possible plays to have to write and code in. Coding those freak plays are even more a pain; if they only happen once every 50 years you don't want it showing up every game but there will be a ton of those freak plays that a player will never see, ever.

Imagination is unfortunately required. Although we are all playing a text sim so imagination comes with the territory

This made me wonder about exactly what plays are and aren't in the game. It'd be nice to have a list, but I appreciate that that is unlikely for various reasons. One obvious example would be, what double play combinations are in the game, and how rare are the rarest ones?

endgame · 07-21-2012, 01:31 PM

Tangential, but I need to verbalize it. Another thread- oldtimeys, I think -alludes to the need for pbp to address positioning, and as GM, I almost exclusively watch the games. However, in instances like we're discussing here, there's no way to tell what the infield or outfield is doing without a pbp reference. I'd like, when just watching games, to have at least the position box visible (I don't have to be able to change it) so it gives me just one more element to consider when I see a play unfold.

RchW · 07-21-2012, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

This made me wonder about exactly what plays are and aren't in the game. It'd be nice to have a list, but I appreciate that that is unlikely for various reasons. One obvious example would be, what double play combinations are in the game, and how rare are the rarest ones?

I'm quite sure a list went around some versions ago. Maybe v10?

Edit

All the more reason to have an event tracker as The Wolf mentioned in another thread.

Cryomaniac · 07-21-2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

I'm quite sure a list went around some versions ago. Maybe v10?

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All the more reason to have an event tracker as The Wolf mentioned in another thread.

Thanks, I'll search for that.

EDIT: So far I've found a list of rare plays from RL (A surprising number (3 so far) of U9 double plays...)

SteveP · 07-21-2012, 03:48 PM

Two of the biggest "missing plays" in OOTP are:

1. Runners on first and third, double steal.

2. Squeeze plays called by the AI.

Everything else would be considered rare, I believe. At least I can't think of any others at the moment; I did a list of them myself at one time.

07-21-2012, 01:31 PM	#83
endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 16,843	Tangential, but I need to verbalize it. Another thread- oldtimeys, I think -alludes to the need for pbp to address positioning, and as GM, I almost exclusively watch the games. However, in instances like we're discussing here, there's no way to tell what the infield or outfield is doing without a pbp reference. I'd like, when just watching games, to have at least the position box visible (I don't have to be able to change it) so it gives me just one more element to consider when I see a play unfold. __________________ "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett _____________________________________________

07-21-2012, 03:48 PM	#86
SteveP Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,109	Two of the biggest "missing plays" in OOTP are: 1. Runners on first and third, double steal. 2. Squeeze plays called by the AI. Everything else would be considered rare, I believe. At least I can't think of any others at the moment; I did a list of them myself at one time.