Active Players seem to lose

andydct · 01-08-2019, 09:06 AM

I own Trevor Story, he was a Fly ball guy when I bought him. Now he's just a normal. Is this supposed to happen?

https://gyazo.com/821c42d74c3dfdaedccab0c72184397a

Thanks,
Andy

andydct · 01-09-2019, 12:11 PM

Same thing happened to Matt Carpenter. I am pretty sure that Tulo I keep seeing up for auction is the same

Lukas Berger · 01-10-2019, 05:57 AM

Yeah, I think this is a bit bugged right now, as is arm slots for pitchers. We're aware of it and it's on the list of things to work on.

andydct · 01-10-2019, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Yeah, I think this is a bit bugged right now, as is arm slots for pitchers. We're aware of it and it's on the list of things to work on.

Cool. It's pretty prevalent I do believe.

andydct · 01-11-2019, 04:57 PM

I have seen this happen now to a perfect player too.

Andy

andydct · 01-11-2019, 06:34 PM

A Line Drive Hitter this time.

andydct · 01-13-2019, 08:49 PM

Now it seems to be effecting Jose Ramirez.

https://gyazo.com/ad954a2ae6a227c75c13e46858ac76c1

andydct · 01-13-2019, 08:49 PM

Is there any way to clear cache in OOTP??

andydct · 01-22-2019, 11:24 AM

This seems back.

https://gyazo.com/9d6bef7cd31a1922d56c57f6283ba523

Alex Murray · 01-22-2019, 03:00 PM

I'm unaware of a way to clear a "cache". To be honest that probably won't fix an issue with the servers making adjustments to players in terms of their hitter type and pitcher arm slots. That's something the devs are going to need to iron out with the coding and the server AI.

Alex

andydct · 01-22-2019, 04:26 PM

Thanks Alex.

Alex Murray · 01-23-2019, 12:25 PM

No worries andydct, sorry I don't have a better answer than that right now. It's just one of many things we support people are throwing at the devs to fix.

andydct · 01-25-2019, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Murray

No worries andydct, sorry I don't have a better answer than that right now. It's just one of many things we support people are throwing at the devs to fix.

In my opinion, anyone with gb ratio under 1 should be FLY BALL or LINE DRIVE. Betts is in the top 12 lowest in the league he should be either Line Drive or Fly Ball.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.as...=4,a&page=1_30

Andy

andydct · 02-04-2019, 11:27 AM

This is still a huge issue.

Jose Ramirez (.75 gb to fb ) shows normal.
Betts (.75 gb/fb) is Normal.
Muncy (.76) is normal too.

Andy

andydct · 02-10-2019, 12:53 AM

This is still an issue. It's not just live players either.

My second team, sees all the players perfectly.

Andy

andydct · 02-10-2019, 10:24 AM

Ony Trout retains his fly ball profile.

andydct · 02-10-2019, 11:22 AM

It is very hard to participate in the market if you see one thing and everyone else sees something else.

Andy

Matt Arnold · 02-10-2019, 02:07 PM

It appears that players may slightly shift their tendencies from year to year, or from when you buy them in the auction house. Of note, this does not actually have a major difference for players, since the batted ball profile is actually much more complex under the covers.

Basically, for each player we calculate a modifier to FB/LD/GB (well, we actually calculate FB and LD, and then infer GB rate from that). The type displayed is simply based on some cutoff points. So, for example, if the FB and LD ratios are under 100, the player may display as a groundball player. However, as I mentioned, it ends up getting recalculated in every league, so if given some league factors, the player's FB tendency rises to, say, 101, then maybe he'll get listed as a "normal" tendency now. So under the covers, his rating may only have changed from 99 to 101, but it will display differently.

For next year, we'll make more sure that these ratios don't change year to year in PT and that batting profiles will stay consistent. But for now, I would not worry too much if a player ends up shifting back and forth between seasons - all that it really means is that his tendency is likely right on the border between displaying the two values.

zrog2000 · 02-10-2019, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

It appears that players may slightly shift their tendencies from year to year, or from when you buy them in the auction house. Of note, this does not actually have a major difference for players, since the batted ball profile is actually much more complex under the covers.

Basically, for each player we calculate a modifier to FB/LD/GB (well, we actually calculate FB and LD, and then infer GB rate from that). The type displayed is simply based on some cutoff points. So, for example, if the FB and LD ratios are under 100, the player may display as a groundball player. However, as I mentioned, it ends up getting recalculated in every league, so if given some league factors, the player's FB tendency rises to, say, 101, then maybe he'll get listed as a "normal" tendency now. So under the covers, his rating may only have changed from 99 to 101, but it will display differently.

For next year, we'll make more sure that these ratios don't change year to year in PT and that batting profiles will stay consistent. But for now, I would not worry too much if a player ends up shifting back and forth between seasons - all that it really means is that his tendency is likely right on the border between displaying the two values.

Will the card actually perform slightly differently because of this or is it just a descriptive rating?

Matt Arnold · 02-10-2019, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zrog2000

Will the card actually perform slightly differently because of this or is it just a descriptive rating?

Well, if their profile shifts, that means that their batted ball distribution will shift. But as I mentioned, in reality, if a player is shifting between FB type and LD type depending on the season, then it's only going to be a few batted balls different in all likelihood.

01-08-2019, 09:06 AM	#1
andydct Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 26	Active Players seem to lose I own Trevor Story, he was a Fly ball guy when I bought him. Now he's just a normal. Is this supposed to happen? https://gyazo.com/821c42d74c3dfdaedccab0c72184397a Thanks, Andy

01-10-2019, 05:57 AM	#3
Lukas Berger OOTP Developments Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France Posts: 19,880	Yeah, I think this is a bit bugged right now, as is arm slots for pitchers. We're aware of it and it's on the list of things to work on. __________________ lukas@ootpdevelopments.com Order Out of the Park Baseball 25! Need to upload files for us to check out? Instructions can be found here

01-22-2019, 11:24 AM	#9
andydct Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 26	This seems back. https://gyazo.com/9d6bef7cd31a1922d56c57f6283ba523 Last edited by andydct; 01-22-2019 at 12:34 PM.

01-09-2019, 12:11 PM	#2
andydct Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 26	Same thing happened to Matt Carpenter. I am pretty sure that Tulo I keep seeing up for auction is the same

01-11-2019, 04:57 PM	#5
andydct Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 26	I have seen this happen now to a perfect player too. Andy

01-11-2019, 06:34 PM	#6
andydct Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 26	A Line Drive Hitter this time.

01-13-2019, 08:49 PM	#7
andydct Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 26	Now it seems to be effecting Jose Ramirez. https://gyazo.com/ad954a2ae6a227c75c13e46858ac76c1

01-22-2019, 03:00 PM	#10
Alex Murray All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 500	I'm unaware of a way to clear a "cache". To be honest that probably won't fix an issue with the servers making adjustments to players in terms of their hitter type and pitcher arm slots. That's something the devs are going to need to iron out with the coding and the server AI. Alex

01-22-2019, 04:26 PM	#11
andydct Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 26	Thanks Alex.

01-23-2019, 12:25 PM	#12
Alex Murray All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 500	No worries andydct, sorry I don't have a better answer than that right now. It's just one of many things we support people are throwing at the devs to fix.

02-04-2019, 11:27 AM	#14
andydct Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 26	This is still a huge issue. Jose Ramirez (.75 gb to fb ) shows normal. Betts (.75 gb/fb) is Normal. Muncy (.76) is normal too. Andy

02-10-2019, 12:53 AM	#15
andydct Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 26	This is still an issue. It's not just live players either. My second team, sees all the players perfectly. Andy

02-10-2019, 10:24 AM	#16
andydct Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 26	Ony Trout retains his fly ball profile.

02-10-2019, 11:22 AM	#17
andydct Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 26	It is very hard to participate in the market if you see one thing and everyone else sees something else. Andy

02-10-2019, 02:07 PM	#18
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 14,117	It appears that players may slightly shift their tendencies from year to year, or from when you buy them in the auction house. Of note, this does not actually have a major difference for players, since the batted ball profile is actually much more complex under the covers. Basically, for each player we calculate a modifier to FB/LD/GB (well, we actually calculate FB and LD, and then infer GB rate from that). The type displayed is simply based on some cutoff points. So, for example, if the FB and LD ratios are under 100, the player may display as a groundball player. However, as I mentioned, it ends up getting recalculated in every league, so if given some league factors, the player's FB tendency rises to, say, 101, then maybe he'll get listed as a "normal" tendency now. So under the covers, his rating may only have changed from 99 to 101, but it will display differently. For next year, we'll make more sure that these ratios don't change year to year in PT and that batting profiles will stay consistent. But for now, I would not worry too much if a player ends up shifting back and forth between seasons - all that it really means is that his tendency is likely right on the border between displaying the two values.