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Old 10-10-2017, 09:06 PM   #21
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gonna continue with my Sabres requests:

Jody Gage (did he make the NHL and stick?)
Miroslav Satan
Marty Biron (he's doing Sabres broadcasts this year...he's terrific)
Zemgus Girgensons
Linus Ullmark
Alexander Nylander

(hope all these requests are okay?)
Requests are definitely okay and more than welcomed. Lets me look at players or teams I might not normally. Will have to wait for tomorrow before I can give an update on these guys but I will answer the Jody Gage question....took him a while but he did play a little over 500 NHL games.
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JODY GAGE

Gage put up much better numbers in the minors - getting 329 points in 464 minor league games - in this sim than he did in the NHL, but unlike in real life he managed to have a pretty long NHL career. The real life Gage only managed a total of 68 regular season games between Detroit and Buffalo. The sim Gage bounced back and forth between Detroit and Adirondack over the first 5 years of his career, playing in 111 games for the Red Wings while scoring just 11 goals.

His big break came midway through the 1984-85 season when the Wings dealt him to the Islanders in exchange for 30 year old Bob Bourne. Gage would be an NHL regular with the Islanders for the next 5 seasons before once again finding himself back in the minors. In all he played 403 games with New York, scoring 55 goals and 104 points.

Gage's best stretch of games came in the 1984-85 playoffs when he scored 9 goals and 12 points in 11 games for the Islanders helping them past Penguins in the preliminary round before losing in 7 games to Philadelphia in the quarterfinals. Those were the only playoff points Gage ever recorded as he was pointless in his 9 other post-season games with Detroit and the Islanders.

His final regular season NHL totals are 514 games played with 66 goals and 119 points.


MIROSLAV SATAN

Satan enjoyed a 19 year NHL career with Edmonton, the Rangers, Washington and Detroit. In all he appeared in 1295 regular season NHL games, scoring 340 goals and 775 points. He also had 17 goals and 48 points in 80 playoff games.

He broke in with the Oilers as a 21 year old in 95-96 and was nominated for the Calder Trophy after scoring 14 goals and 39 points as a rookie. He would spend the next two and a half years in Edmonton but did not top his rookie season for production.

The Oilers dealt him to the Rangers for a then 30 year old Brian Leetch. Leetch would go on to have 6 more solid seasons in Edmonton but the deal would certainly not disappoint Ranger fans as Satan enjoyed the best seasons of his career on Broadway. He scored a career high 36 goals and 71 points in the year after the trade and followed that up with a 34 goal season the next year.

After 8 and a half years in New York, the Rangers dealt the 33 year old Satan to Washington in the summer of 2007 in exchange for young goaltending prospect Semyon Varlamov. Varlamov would go on to have a long career in New York, playing over 600 games in the Rangers cage. Satan would put together 3 straight 20 goal seasons in Washington before his production started to slide at age 36.

He would end his career by going pointless in 8 games for Detroit in 2012-13 after he was dealt to the Wings midway through his final campaign.


MARTIN BIRON

Biron sat in the Buffalo Sabres system for 3 years without even getting a shot at some games in Rochester. The Sabres released him in 2001 and he signed with Detroit at a perfect time as he would go on to win 4 Stanley Cups with the Red Wings.

His rookie season of 2001-02 was by far the best of his career as he took the league by storm, going 43-6-8 with a 1.37 GAA for the powerhouse Wings. He also had 16 shutouts that season and won the Jennings Trophy. He is nominated for the Calder and the Vezina but failed to win either that season but was named a first team all-star.
Biron got his chance when Chris Osgood struggled early after leading Detroit to Cups the two previous seasons.

Biron would play 9 seasons with the Wings and be a starter for 4 of them. He became a free agent in 2010 and signed with Pittsburgh, where he ended his career with 21 games over 2 seasons with the Pens.

In 358 career NHL games, Biron fashioned a 210-88-53 record with a lifetime 1.89 GAA. That record was definately inflated because of just how good the Wings teams were during the first decade of the 2000's.

ZEMGUS GIRGENSONS

Girgensons played his entire 14 year career in Buffalo, scoring 270 goals and 598 points in 1061 NHL games. His peak years were 2022-23 and 2023-34 when he had back to back 30 goal seasons including a career best 33 the second year.

Girgensons would had 42 goals and 92 points in 115 playoff games for the Sabres including 17 points in the 2021 post-season and 24 points in 20 games the following year. Buffalo won back to back Cups those seasons. His career would end with a couple of seasons in Rochester.

He is 13th all-time in games played in a Buffalo uniform and his 270 goals are tied with Danny Gare for 11th all-time on the Sabres list. In case you are wondering Buffalo's all-time goal leader is Pierre Turgeon with 650. The other players to score at least 500 in a Buffalo uniform are Dave Andreychuk (627), Jack Eichel (609), Gilbert Perreault (590) and Rick Martin (514).

LINUS ULLMARK

Ullmark spent 8 years in Rochester before finally making his NHL debut at the age of 27 with the Sabres in 2020-21. He would play 35 games that season, going 18-10-2 as Ben Bishop's backup, to help the Sabres win their first Cup. The following year he would again win the Cup as Bishop's backup, starting 19 games in the regular season.

In 2022-23 he took the starting job away from an aging Bishop and was 36-13-4 during the season. He made his playoff debut that year, going 11-5 but the Sabres Cup run came to an end with a Game Seven loss to the Islanders in the conference finals. He also won the Jennings Award that season for lowest GAA.

That off-season he signed with Tampa as a free agent and spent the next 5 seasons as the backup to Andrei Vasilevskiy. They both retired after the 2028-29 season and Tampa would win it's first Cup the following year.

Ullmark finished with a 105-65-19 record and a lifetime 2.40 GAA in the NHL. He actually played more minor league than NHL games and was very successful in the AHL, going 136-58-21. The only playoff action he ever saw in the NHL was during his run to the conference finals in 2023 but he did get a pair of Cups as a backup.


ALEXANDER NYLANDER

Another member of the back-to-back Cup winning Sabres teams of 2021 and 2022, Nylander would play 579 games in the NHL. He scored 124 goals and 317 points in what turned out to be a relatively short career. He made his NHL debut in 2017-18, spending most of the season in Rochester but appearing in 5 games with the Sabres in which he recorded his first career point - an assist.

Nylander would become a regular the following season and played 82 games for each of the next seven seasons, although just the first 4 were in Buffalo. He had back to back 50 point seasons in the Sabres two Cup winning years and scored 15 points in each of the 2 playoff runs.

For some reason he sat out the entire 2022-23 season - I will assume he returned to Europe to play - and re-emerged in the NHL in 2023-24 when the Pittsburgh Penguins signed him as a free agent. Nylander had a career year with 27 goals and 69 points in his first season with the Penguins. He would play 3 years in Pittsburgh, never missing a game but then after becoming a free agent sat out the 2026-27 season. He returned to North American and played 2 years for the AHL Toronto Marlies alongside his brother William.

WILLIAM NYLANDER

Had a bit longer career than his brother, playing 867 NHL games - all with the Leafs - and scoring 177 goals and 506 points in his career. William's top year was a 25 goal, 61 point effort in 2019-20. His career would end with 2 seasons with the Marlies - as a teammate of Alexander's in both of them.

MICHAEL NYLANDER

Might as well add their dad here as well. Michael spent his entire career with the Hartford-Carolina organization, appearing in 1425 career games. He scored 308 goals and 859 points. He is third all-time in franchise games behind only Ron Francis and Chris Pronger. His best season was a 28 goal, 73 point effort in 2003-04. He never won a Cup - the Hurricanes didn't win their first and only Cup until 2031 - but he made the conference finals twice, losing to Montreal both times.
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:57 AM   #23
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hey TigerFan...thanks for these, enjoying your write ups immensely.

How about:

Tiger Williams
Paul Coffey
Rob Ray
Alexander Ovechkin
Maxim Afinogenov
Michael Peca
Curtis Brown

and how about Jason Bonsignore....one of the biggest draft busts in NHL history...he's from my area and I actually met him a few times just after being picked 4th overall in the 1993 draft I believe. Did he ever make the NHL in your replay?

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Old 10-12-2017, 08:39 PM   #24
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hey TigerFan...thanks for these, enjoying your write ups immensely.

How about:

Tiger Williams
Paul Coffey
Rob Ray
Alexander Ovechkin
Maxim Afinogenov
Michael Peca
Curtis Brown

and how about Jason Bonsignore....one of the biggest draft busts in NHL history...he's from my area and I actually met him a few times just after being picked 4th overall in the 1993 draft I believe. Did he ever make the NHL in your replay?
TIGER WILLIAMS

One of my favourites from my days as a 10-15 year watching the Leafs in the late 1970s. Unfortunately, Tiger never got much of a shot with the Leafs in this sim. He played just 2 games for the Leafs as a 20 year old in 1974-75, but scored his first NHL goal and had his first fight. He would spend most the next three years in the minors but did get called up for 27 games (1-3-4 with 104pims) in 1976-77 and 2 games (1 assist, no pim's) the following season.

In December of 1976 the Leafs put him on waivers and he was claimed by the New York Rangers but spent the rest of the season in New Haven. In 1977-78 he got some time in with the Rangers, playing 16 games with 2 goals and 68 pims, and he would get 9 more games the following season.

Now 25 years old the Rangers decided to give up on Williams and placed him on waivers at the end of the season. The Minnesota North Stars, one of the worst teams in the league at this point as they missed the playoffs each of the previous 7 seasons, claimed Williams and he finally got a chance to be an NHL regular.

Williams would play 6 full seasons with the North Stars and part of a seventh before being sent back to the minors where he would end his career. 518 of Williams 574 career NHL games where played in Minnesota and he finished his career with 77 goals, 185 points and 1653 penalty minutes including a 304 minute season in 1983-84 when he also scored a career best 20 goals.

PAUL COFFEY

Coffey spent his entire career in Edmonton, joining the Oilers as a 19 year old in 1980-81 and ending his career after the 1997-98 campaign. He played 1229 games and had 396 goals and 1459 points. A solid offensive defenseman but he was overshadowed by Denis Potvin and Mark Howe early in his career and Nik Lidstrom late so Coffey managed to win just 1 Norris Trophy. He was a first time all-star just once and made two appearances on the second all-star team. Like Gretzky, he will be best remembered for failing to win a Stanley Cup- although they did come close on a couple of occassions.

ROB RAY

Ray failed to make the NHL but did play 591 minor league games, scoring 105 goals and earning 754 pims. He spent 4 years with the Sabres farm team in Rochester before being dealt to New Jersey in the summer of 1993 in exchange for Peter Statsny and Murray Eaves. The deal was no where near as lobsided as it might sound - Statsny was at the end of his career and spent his only season in the Buffalo organization playing for Rochester. Eaves was also just a minor leaguer at that point in his career. Ray would play 5 seasons in Albany before retiring, having never been called up to the NHL.

ALEX OVECHKIN

He had a long career, 16 seasons and 1205 games, entirely in Washington but was never a dominant scorer. No 50 goal seasons and he topped 40 only 3 times in his career so Ovechkin finished with 457 goals and 918 points. The Capitals were a bad team through much of his career, which was a factor - making the playoffs just 5 times in his career and advancing past the second round just once. No all-star selections and the only awards he won was the Mark Messier Leadership Award in 2020 and the Maurice Richard Trophy when he led the NHL with 47 goals in 2007-08.

MAXIM AFINOGENOV

Afinogenov was no stranger to the Battle of Alberta as all of his 752 career NHL games were played for either the Flames or the Oilers. He started with the Sabres in Rochester but after scoring 19 goals and 41 points as a 20 year old for the Amerks the Sabres decided not to renew his contract and let him sign with Calgry. After a year in Saint John he made his NHL debut at the age of 22 in 2001-02, playing 75 games and scoring 6 goals and 18 points for Calgary. He had a slow start the following season, going scoreless in 8 games and the Flames dealt him to Edmonton where he would finish out the 02-03 season playing for the Hamilton Bulldogs of the AHL.

He made the Oilers out of camp in 2003-04 and played the next 9 seasons with Edmonton before ending his career with 3 years in Oklahoma City and Bakersfield. His career high was a 15 goal season in 2009-10 and in all Afinogenov scored just 90 goals in 752 NHL games. No Cups for Afinogenov but he did help the Oilers to the conference finals in 2011-12 before they fell to eventual champion Chicago.

MICHAEL PECA

Peca had a nice NHL career, playing 1036 games for Vancouver, Washington and Colorado. He won a Cup late in his career with Avs, when he scored 6 goals and 10 points in 22 playoff games in 2005. He never played a day in the minors, finishing his NHL career with 185 goals and 560 points.

Peca broke in with Vancouver as an 18 year in 1992-93 and scored 12 goals and 27 points that season. His best offensive year was a 22 goal season with the Canucks in 96-97 and his career high in points was 54 which he accomplished twice in back to back seasons with the Avalanche.

The Canucks dealt him to Washington when he was 23 in the summer of 1997 in exchange for defenseman Scott Stevens. Stevens was near the end of his career so it seemed like a dumb move on Vancouver's side, but the Canucks I guess were hoping to make a Cup run but this was in the era of Detroit's dominance so they were much less than successful in that regard.

Stevens lasted just 2 seasons in Vancouver but that was one more than Peca played in Washington as he was dispatched to Colorado the following summer. The deal sent Peca and minor leaguer Hnat Domenichelli to the Avs in exchange for goaltender Ron Tugnutt. Peca would enjoy 8 solid seasons in Colorado to end his career.

CURTIS BROWN

Spent a decade in Buffalo, playing 574 NHL games. Brown finished with 100-139-239 for his numbers and retired shortly after being sent down to the minors in 2005 as a 28 year old. Career best season was 1999-2000 when he scored 21 goals in 64 games despite missing substantial time with a broken wrist.

JASON BONSIGNORE

A real bust in the game. In fact he never played anywhere, NHL or minors. The Oilers had his rights but he never played anywhere with them and was released in 1999. No one else signed him.
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Old 10-13-2017, 01:41 PM   #25
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I may keep doing this until you tell me to stop, lol.

How about:

Cory Perry
Tim Thomas
Eric Lindros
Tie Domi
John Vanbiesbrouck
Brett Hull
Gary Roberts
Sergei Makarov
Mark Howe
Pelle Lindbergh

thanks again!
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Old 10-14-2017, 03:36 PM   #26
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I may keep doing this until you tell me to stop, lol.

How about:

Cory Perry
Tim Thomas
Eric Lindros
Tie Domi
John Vanbiesbrouck
Brett Hull
Gary Roberts
Sergei Makarov
Mark Howe
Pelle Lindbergh

thanks again!
Sure, keep them coming. I am enjoying look back on different players you request.

COREY PERRY

Perry spent his entire 15 year career with the Ducks before retiring after the 2018-19 season due to a number of injuries in his final season. In all he scored 390 goals and 783 points in 1096 career games. Anaheim was a pretty weak team for most of Perry's career and made the playoffs just 4 times. The Ducks finished last in their division seven straight years starting in 2014-15 so he did not see much playoff action. Perry played 22 post-season games in all, notching 6 goals and 8 assists. To this day (June 2036) the Ducks still have yet to win a Cup.

Perry's 390 goals rank second all time in team history behind only Paul Kariya (399). He is fourth in points as a Duck, trailing Ryan Getzlaf (1059), Kariya (961) and Matt Cullen (829). He was nominated for Calder in 2005-06 but that went to some guy named Crosby.

TIM THOMAS

A nice career arc for Thomas, with some similarity to real life. He stated in the Quebec organization but after 4 years in the minors he was released and did not play anywhere as a 25 year old in 1999-2000 so my assumption is he went to Europe for the year. The Leafs signed him the following season and he would spend 14 seasons in Toronto, playing 559 games while compiling a 309-181-50 career record. He won the Jennings Trophy for a sparkling 1.90 GAA in his final season in the league at the age of 39 and also won a Cup with the Leafs in 2004, although he did not play in the playoffs that season as he was backing up Felix Potvin.

ERIC LINDROS

Lindros played 1142 career NHL games, split almost equally between Quebec/Colorado and New Jersey. He only scored 277 goals and had 695 points with his most productive season being 1999-2000 when he was 35-42-77 in his second year with the Devils. He had some injury problems early including missing most of the 1996-97 season with a torn ACL.

The Avalanche moved him to New Jersey in a blockbuster deal in the summer of 1998. Lindros and Boris Mironov were sent to the Devils in exchange for Scott Niedermeyer and Steve Webb. Niedermeyer would help Colorado win a Cup but not until 7 years later. No Cups for Lindros or the Devils - as the franchise has never won one. Interesting note on the much travelled Boris Mironov. He was traded 4 times in his career including once for his brother Dmitri.

Lindros never made an all-star team or won an individual award, but he did have a long NHL career. The torn ACL hurt as it came in his prime (age 22) and he broke his leg and missed all but 33 games five years later.

TIE DOMI

This sim was not kind to Tie as his entire NHL career consisted of 92 games with Carolina and Tampa. He had 3 goals and 11 points along with 142 pim on his NHL resume. Domi also played over 1000 games in the minor leagues including over 8 seasons in the Leafs organization until he was deal to Carolina in 1997-98 at the age of 28 with Dan Bylsma going the other way.

He played 20 games for the Hurricanes that season but spent the next year and a half back in the minors. Tampa signed him as a free agent in 1999-2000 and that season accounted for the final 72 games of his NHL career, as he notched 2 goals and 5 assists to go with 113 penalty minutes for the Lightning.

His son Max Domi had a much better go of things, playing 1000 NHL games, all with Arizona, while scored 280 goals and 648 points. Max had a career year in 2021-22 when he scored 101 points


JOHN VANBIESBROUCK

The Rangers all-time leader in wins (675) and shutouts (108), Vanbiesbrouck is 4th in NHL history in wins trailing just Luongo, Roy and Carey Price. He is also 4th behind each of the same three in career games having played 1257 - all with the Rangers.

Vanbiesbrouck won a pair of Vezina Trophy's and the Conn Smythe in 1997 when he led the Rangers to the last of their 5 Stanley Cups (other Cup wins were in 1936, 1937, 1940 and 1955 for New York). Seven times he was named either a first or second team all-star and he is, of course, a member of the Hockey Hall of Fame.

BRETT HULL

Great career for the Golden Brett which was spent entirely in Calgary. Hull scored 772 career goals and 1719 points in 1491 games. He won 3 Stanley Cups in his career and received the Conn Smythe twice. He also won the Calder Trophy in his rookie year of 1986-87 when Hull scored 26 goals and 57 points. He made his NHL debut the previous season when he scored once in 10 games, although he spent most of that year in Moncton.

Hull had a breakout year in his second full season when he scored 49 goals and 121 points. It would be the first of 10 times when he topped the 100 point mark. He also enjoyed seven 50 goal seasons include a career high 61 in 1989-90 but the only year he led the league in goals was the lockout-shortened 1994-95 campaign when he notched 33 goals in 48 games.

The Flames won 3 straight Stanley Cups starting in Hull's rookie of the year season. They would only win one more in their history but that was not until 2033. Hull won back to back Conn Smythe Trophy's in 1988 and 1989. In '88 he had 21 goals in 17 playoff games and the following season he had 34 points in 20 playoff games. In all, Hull played 232 career playoff games, scoring 124 times and recording 271 career points. He is 4th all-time in career playoff goals behind Yzerman (205), Gretzky (140) and Lafleur (128).

Hull's 772 career goals and 1719 career points are second highest in Flames history - trailing only Sean Monahan (801-1080-1881) and he is one of just 14 players to score 700 career NHL goals.

The 14th and final name on the 700 goal list is his father Bobby Hull, who finished with 701 goals and 1432 career points. The elder Hull's entire career was spent with Chicago and he outdid his son by leading the NHL in goals 4 times and won 3 Art Ross Trophys. Brett had the edge in Conn Smythe's as Bobby won just one. They each won 3 Stanley Cups.

Staying with the family, uncle Dennis Hull won two Stanley Cups - one with Detroit and one in Toronto. Dennis played 801 NHL games, scoring 182 goals and 452 points. In addition to the Wings and Leafs he also played for Chicago.

GARY ROBERTS

Roberts career overlapped Hull as they were teammates on the 3 straight Calgary cup teams. He scored 410 goals and 947 points in 1035 career games, all with Calgary. He retired early - age 31 - after an injury in his final season. Roberts' best years were 90-91 and 91-92 when he had back to back seasons of 59 and 56 goals.


SERGEI MAKAROV

Had a very brief career in Calgary as he joined the Flames at age 31 in the year after their 3rd Cup. He had a career best 33 goals and 74 points as a 31 year old rookie and would play 5 seasons with the Flames before retiring. He played 395 career games, scoring 103 goals and 303 points.

MARK HOWE

Howe had a great career, winning 4 Norris Trophy's and a Conn Smythe with Philadelphia. He started as an 18 year old in 1973-74 with Houston of the WHA and enjoyed three 100 point seasons with the Aeros. He won an Avco Cup with the Aeros in 1977 and finished 8th all-time in WHA career points. Howe also earned 3 WHA MVP awards and was named best defenseman in the league 3 times.

When the WHA folded he joined the Flyers and would lead them to their only Stanley Cup win in 1986. He is the Flyers all-time assist lead with 767 and his 999 career NHL points, which all came with Philadelphia, rank him 6th in team history behind Brian Propp (1239), Peter Forsberg (1112), Claude Giroux (1103), Jeff Carter (1089) and Bill Barber (1018).

Howe retired after the 1991-92 season with a combined NHL-WHA total of 1397 games played, 362 goals and 1489 points.

I have talked about dad Gordie so I won't rehash him here but will say his brother Marty Howe played just 50 NHL games and scored 1 career goal. Like Mark, Marty spent 5 years in the WHA with Houston and won an Avco Cup. When the WHA folded he went to Minnesota and played all of his NHL games in 1980-81 for Minnesota before bouncing around in the minors the next several years.

PELLE LINDBERGH

Lindbergh had several strong seasons in Philadelphia leading them to some deep playoff runs. However, the year they won the Cup he was injured just before the playoffs and spent the finals sitting on the bench watching rookie Ron Hextall carry Philadelphia to it's only Cup title. He won the Vezina in 1987 and a pair of Jennings Trophy's as the starter from 1985-86 until 1990-91.

After the 192-93 season at the age of 34 Lindbergh would find himself in the minors as he lost his NHL job to Dominic Roussel who joined Hextall. Lindbergh was pickup up on waivers by Tampa. He would not play in the NHL with Tampa but did get 3 games for Detroit in 1994-95 as he bounced around through several organizations late in his career.

Lindbergh finished with 411 career NHL games, all but 3 with the Flyers, going 178-146-46 with a 3.34 GAA. He was 33-30 in playoff action.
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Hi,
I would be very interested in how the L.A. Kings did in your simulation.
Could they ever win the Stanley Cup?
And could the Blues and Canucks end their STC misery?
Thanks!
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I'm interested in how the Capitals did during your save. How'd Braden Holtby, Evgeny Kuznetsov, Jakub Vrana, and John Carlson do especially?
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Thanks for following along. First up the LA Kings.

LOS ANGELES KINGS

The Kings just recently won their first and only Stanley Cup. It happened in 2034 and the roster was nothing but fictional players that debuted after 2016-17, when the historical player import of course ended. While they took a long time to win a Cup the Kings were a very successful expansion team as they made the playoffs each of their first 15 seasons in the league (from 67-68 to 81-82). After a three year drought they made the playoffs 13 of the next 14 season.

They came close a few times starting in 1970-71 when the Kings knocked off St Louis in the opening round and then pushed eventual Cup champion Chicago to seven games in the semi-final. That team was led by Jean Pronovost, a mid-season pickup from Boston, along with Danny Lawson, Ross Lonsberry, Darryl Edestrand and Red Berenson. Pronovost would enjoy the longest career of the group and finished with 400 career assists, third most in team history behind Luc Robitaille (888) and Mike Cammalleri (414).

Los Angeles would also make the semi-finals in 1974 and again in 1976 with the leader of the team being goaltender Billy Smith, who's 280 career wins as a King is second only to Jonathan Quick. Quick would get Los Angeles to the conference finals in back-to-back seasons. In 2013 they fell to Chicago in 5 games while the following year Edmonton knocked off LA in game seven of the finals before the Oilers beat Boston for their first Cup. Mike Cammalleri, Wayne Simmonds, Drew Doughty and Brayden Schenn were the stars of the those Kings teams. Anze Kopitar played a big role on the first team but in the summer of 2013 he was dealt to Pittsburgh in exchange for a pair of young defensemen in Derrick Pouliot and Phillip Samuelsson. The trade worked out well for LA as both played a number of seasons on the Kings blueline, although Kopitar did win a pair of Cups in Pittsburgh.

The Kings all-time scoring leader is Luc Robitaille (888-926-1814 in 1551 games) followed by Larry Murphy (352-958-1310) and Jimmy Carson (322-745-1067). Rounding out the top 5 in points are Dave Taylor (384-575-959) and Don Marcotte (381-508-889). Marcotte was a multiple first team all-star and the face of the franchise for the first decade after being acquired from Boston midway through the expansion season.

Here are the Kings top scorers and leaders in goaltender wins.
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Thank you very much for the info! Interesting to see that it took the Kings 67 years to do it... I am not sure if I would have been alive in 2034 so I was very lucky to see the STC drought end in 2012 and get a bonus one in 2014!
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ST LOUIS BLUES

The Blues did finally win a Stanley Cup as they claimed their one and only title in 2005-06. It was a great reward for fans who stuck with them through some very lean decades prior to the shocking win. St Louis did make the playoffs in 3 of their first four years of existence, but they did not win a playoff series until 1978-79 when they won a best of 3 preliminary round only to lose 4 straight in the next round. The Blues did not win a best of seven series until 2003-04 when they topped Calgary in 7 games in the opening round only to fall 4 straight to Detroit in the conference semi-finals.

That trip to the '04 playoffs was their first in 8 years and just the third playoff appearance for the Blues since in 1983. However, the team found magic in the form of goaltender Nolan Schaefer in the 2005-06 playoffs. After missing the playoffs in 2005, the 26 year old Schaefer came out of nowhere, literally, as he did not play anywhere before joining the Blues as Curtis Joseph's backup that season. The 38 year old Joseph, who was 310-558-111 in his long career with the Blues, was in his final season and was hurt in late March. Schaefer, who played 29 games as a rookie that season with a 19-7-3 record, was thrust into the starting role as the Blues began the playoffs. The 26 year old would lead St Louis all the way to their first and only Cup and then never play in the NHL again.

Schaefer and the Blues beat Anaheim 4 games to one in the opening round. That was followed up by wins in 6 games against both Detroit and Vancouver in the next two rounds setting up a final against Montreal. The Blues prevailed in 5 games. Schaefer would go 16-6 with a 2.23 GAA in the playoffs. He would be traded to Los Angeles with Rod Brind'Amour, another key contributer to the win, in exchange for Kenny Jonsson and Alexander Edler over the summer and the Blues would be swept in the opening round the following season and never win another Cup. Schaefer, would never play in the NHL again but certainly never paid for a drink in a St Louis bar for the rest of his life.

Brind'Amour led the team with 49 goals and 100 points in the season with David Backes (34-40-74), Jussi Jokinen (28-44-72) and Michael Handzus (18-39-57) also being key contributers. Jokinen, who had 11 goals and 25 points, was named the winner of the Conn Smythe Trophy, but like Brind'Amour and Schaeffer, he was dealt away over the summer. Jokinen went to Montreal in exchange for Mike Komisarek and would win another Cup two years later with the Habs.

As for the Vancouver Canucks, they never did win a Cup and that loss to St Louis in the 2005 conference finals was the closest they got to the Cup until 2029-30 when they lost again in the conference finals. The following year, 2030-31, Vancouver reached the finals for the first time in franchise histoy but fell in 6 games to Carolina as the Hurricanes claimed their first Cup.


The Capitals, and the requested players will be up next. But that will be later today or tomorrow.
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I'm interested in how the Capitals did during your save. How'd Braden Holtby, Evgeny Kuznetsov, Jakub Vrana, and John Carlson do especially?
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The Washington Capitals have never won a Stanley Cup and throughout their history have been one of the least successful franchises. Washington joined the league in 1974 and suffered through a dismal 11-63-6 inagural season with a bunch of castoffs from other teams including goaltenders Wayne Thomas and Gilles Gilbert along with skaters Gerry Monahan, Craig Cameron, JC Tremblay and Rejean Houle.

Players would come and go over the next decade but the Caps would miss the playoffs every year. Rock bottom was an 11-62-7 seasons in 1981-82 but they followed that up with a 30 win season and snuck into the playoffs for the first time in 1982-83. The leaders on that team were Ryan Walter, Rick Green, Robert Picard and goaltender Jim Bedard along with an 18 year old rookie defenseman by the name of Scott Stevens. Washington's first playoff series would be short-lived as the Caps were knocked off in 4 games by the Islanders in the best of three preliminary round series.

Despite Stevens emergence as a leader on the blueline Washington would not make the playoffs again until 1988-89. The would win their first playoff series, beating Philadelphia 4 games to one in the opening round before succumbing to Pittsburgh in 5 games in the next round.

They would miss the playoffs the next two years but the addition of of Peter Bondra (416 career goals in 1211 games with the Caps), who scored 42 goals, led the Caps back to the post-season in 1991-92. Young goaltender Olaf Kolzig was coming into his own as a starter at this time but his play was not enough to prevent the Caps from being swept in the opening round of the playoffs that year.

Washington would miss the playoffs the next 3 seasons but begin a run of three straight playoff appearances starting in 1996-97. Stevens was dealt to Vancouver for Mike Peca as the playoff streak began and Sergei Gonchar would replace him as their top blueliner. Bondra continued to lead the team offensively with Jason Allison taking on a bigger role but the the Caps could not advance past the first round of the playoffs in any of those seasons.

In 1998 the Caps dealt Peca to Colorado in a deal that brought Ron Tugnutt to Washington. Despite being 31 when he was acquired Tugnutt would spend a decade in the Caps net and lead them to their best post-season performance in team history...but that was nine years later.

Tugnutt's first 7 years in Washington saw the Caps miss the playoffs each season. Gonchar continued to be their top player until the arrival of Alex Ovechkin in 2004-05. Ovechkin would score 24 goals in 61 games as a rookie and follow that up with 3 straight 40-goal seasons despite having very little in the way of a supporting cast. Ovechkin would play 1205 career games, all with the Caps, and finish with 457 goals and 918 points.

In 2007-08 the Caps made their deepest playoff run in franchise history as Nik Backstrom and Tugnutt carried them past Washington in 5 games and Pittsburgh in 6 to reach the conference final. Washington's dreams would be crushed in 4 straight games by the eventual Cup champion Montreal Canadiens. The 20 year old Backstrom led the team with 15 points in their 15 playoff games while Miroslav Satan had 12, Gonchar 11 and Ovechkin had 10 points.

However, instead of lifting the Capitals to higher things the club went into another funk - missing the playoffs altogether for the next 6 years.

It was 2014-15 before the Caps rached the post-season again. Ovechkin and Backstrom were still the offensive leaders but a newcomer emerged as their number one goaltender. Braden Holtby joined the Caps as 20 year old in 2009-10 and would take the starters job the following season. He would not relinquish that role until his retirement after the 2023-24 season. In all Holtby played 696 regular season games for the Caps, going 337-280-48. Pittsburgh would be Holtby and the Caps nemesis as 3 straight years Holtby led the Caps to the playoffs only to be eliminated by the Penguins on all 3 occassions.

The Caps would make one more playoff appearance with their core group from those three playoff runs, but fell in the conference sem-finals in 2021-22. They only made the post-season 3 more times, falling to the Islanders in the first round in 2024 and again in 2025. Their best run came in the 2032 post-season when the Caps reached the conference finals for the first time in their history, but were beaten in 5 games by Buffalo. That club would be composed entirely of fictional players who entered the game after 2017.

As for their history, well Holtby was the top goaltender in franchise history, winning 337 games and leading the team with 47 career shutouts with number two being Vitek Vanecek, who in real life is a young player with Hershey. Vanecek would take the reigns from Holtby and go on to win 250 games in his career despite being on some bad Washington teams.

Ovechkin was a very good player but never became a superstar- although Filip Forsberg did, winning an Art Ross Trophy with a 100 point season in 2015-16 and finishing as the team's all-time leader in goals and points. Nicklas Backstrom also enjoyed a very productive career.

I talked about Holtby but as for the others you asked about:

EVGENY KUZNETSOV

Played 915 games with the Capitals, his only NHL team, and scored 233 goals and 756 points. His best season was 2020-21 when, at the age of 28, he had 34 goals and 87 points.

JAKUB VRANA

Never made the NHL as he spent his entire 9 year career in Hershey, playing 589 AHL games and recording 315 points. He disappeared after the 2022-23 season at age 26 so I assume he would have gone back to Europe to play after getting sick of life in the minors.

JOHN CARLSON

Had a very productive career, being named a first-team all-star 3 times and winning a Stanley Cup with the Islanders in 2022. The much travelled Carlson played just one season in Washington but it was later in his career. After a decent rookie season in the AHL, Carlson was dealt to Buffalo along with Evgeni Nabokov in exchange for Jaroslav Halak prior to the 2009-10 season. He would split that season between Buffalo and the AHL, appearing in 15 games for the Sabres and scoring his first NHL goal.

In his second season he spent the entire year in the NHL but was dealt from Buffalo to Dallas at the trade deadline for Louie Eriksson. His stop in Dallas was also a year and a half before he was moved again - this time to the Chicago Black Hawks.

Now 22 years old, Carlson would play his best hockey in the Windy City over the next 7 years. In 2012-13 he had 62 points and helped the Hawks reach the Stanley Cup finals. He would also be nominated for the Norris Trophy and be named a first team all-star for the first time.

After seven solid seasons in Chicago he was dealt to Washington in September of 2019. He would play 70 games for the Capitals that season and score 10 goals and 32 points but that would be his only year with the Caps. He signed with the Islanders as a free agent and would help New York win the 2023 Cup.

Carlson would play 1013 NHL games, scoring 164 goals and 675 points. He made the Stanley Cup finals 3 times, winning the Cup once, while recording 77 points in 121 career playoff games.
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Good to know I shouldn't expect the Caps to win a Stanley Cup any time soon. Also, Forsberg being there triggers me even more.
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Could you do a list of guy that were point per game or higher for their career showing their points games played and points per game?
Also claude giroux.

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Could you do a list of guy that were point per game or higher for their career showing their points games played and points per game?
Also claude giroux.
Here is Giroux. As for points per game I do not believe that is accessible to sort from the player index page in the history section. Will see if I can come up with something though.


CLAUDE GIROUX

Giroux did a little better than he is doing in real life - at least in the goals department. He would spend his entire career in Philadelphia, retiring after the 2023-24 season at the age of 36. Giroux played 1287 NHL games, scoring 468 goals and 1103 points. He was a prolific scorer in the game, peaking with 46 in 2010-11. He also had a 45 goal season and scored between 30-39 goals on six occasions.

He never won an individual trophy but was named to the first all-star team 5 times in his career. He played just 67 playoff games in his career, scoring 16 goals and 50 points. Twice he helped the Flyers to the conference final but they lost both times, including a 7 game series vs Montreal in 2012 and a 5 game defeat to Pittsburgh two years later. Those were the only two seasons in Giroux's career the Flyers advanced past the first round.

He is third all-time in career points as a Flyer behind Brian Propp (1239) and Peter Forsberg (1112). Propp, with 519, is the only player to score more goals in a Philadelphia uniform.
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It would be a little too much work to do everyone at a point per game or higher but here are the players who averaged at least 1.30 points per game and had over 400 career points.

For comparison I also added the real life point per game leaders that I found with a quick google search.

Among the guys in real life who made it but missed the cut in the sim:

Bobby Orr - Orr was just over a point per game with 1397 points in 1333 career games.

Sidney Crosby - Crosby had 2002 career points in 1657 games for a 1.208 ppg average.

Peter Statsny - 1047 points in 908 NHL games for a 1.153 average

Peter Forsberg- just over a point a game with 1212 points in 1182 games

Kent Nilsson- less than a point a game with 659 points in 671 games

Phil Esposito - 1715 points in 1484 career games for a 1.156 average

Others of note

Connor McDavid - 1305 points in 1093 career games so he just misses the list with a 1.194 average

Auston Matthews - just under a point a game with 1029 in 1088 career NHL games.

Patrick Laine - just over a point a game with 1391 in 1261 games.
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General tidbits from the WHA?
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So if I'm understanding correctly, IRL the 11th best PPG player (Lafleur) had a PPG of 1.202 - in the FHM4 sim the 11th best PPG player (Dione) has a PPG of 1.344.......in the sim, what's the ranking of the player who has a PPG at/right below 1.202?
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So if I'm understanding correctly, IRL the 11th best PPG player (Lafleur) had a PPG of 1.202 - in the FHM4 sim the 11th best PPG player (Dione) has a PPG of 1.344.......in the sim, what's the ranking of the player who has a PPG at/right below 1.202?
Not necessarily. As I mentioned in the post I don’t believe the game lists career PPG anywhere so I went thru it manually. I think I was accurate but I may have missed some guys. Either way, it is far too time consuming for me to figure out the rank of the guy at 1.202. Sorry.

I think the overall numbers look pretty good especially when you consider I used the FHM player development instead of recalculate ratings each year. The latter should yield much more realistic individual results.
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