Some advice?

[Disco Dog 13]

Originally Posted by magicspeedo

You're absolutely right, I've seen it 1000 times, and I hope he does dude, cuz if he doesn't, he will take a huge hit to his attributes. It looks like the other guys would still hit just fine if you swapped him with Bryant or White though. (although I wouldn't drop White any lower than 4th, hes way too good of a hitter). I would try it for a few series and see if he can get his average up while the other can maintain theirs.

I get if it ain't broke, don't fix it, but Stanton is broke if he's hitting .230 with his attributes. Not that it's really going to matter, your team is going to walk to the world series.

I've tried to go L, R. L. R etc etc wherever possible

Do you think this makes enough of a difference then ?

[Disco Dog 13]

Originally Posted by magicspeedo

You want a true challenge? Try to win 6 straight with the Brewers by purely simulating. Smallest market in baseball. I won 20 titles in 30 years with them and by 2040 the highest I could get the market was "Rather Big" and my budget maxed out at 170M I think (it's been a while since I deleted that save cuz it got old to win with no chance of increasing the market size anymore).

Edit: I never hit 6 straight, stuck at 5

Sounds like a challenge ... in the not too distant future (when my prospects have replaced my other prospects, who themselves replaced prospects who replaced Harper and Co.) I might give that a go

[magicspeedo]

Originally Posted by Disco Dog 13

I've tried to go L, R. L. R etc etc wherever possible

Do you think this makes enough of a difference then ?

L-R-L-R doesn't matter as much if their attribute splits aren't that different. If a dude has a 95 contact vs LHP and a 91 contact vs RHP it's not going to matter as much. I can say that with your line up, White needs to be 3rd. What you're doing is like batting Pujols 5th in his prime...dude...he's by far your best hitter, and with your line up, that is saying something since you have a billion excellent contact/power hitters. What stands out is he has an exceptional eye mixed with exceptional contact/power. None of your other guys have that, and the guy you have batting 4th has a terrible eye (I don't know what his eye potential is, but let him develop a little before you put him 4th).

Again though, your line up is so crazy good that it won't make much of a difference in reality. But it will affect their ratings if they don't perform at a level that can maintain their attributes. And right now, Stanton isn't. That's really the only thing I would even worry about.

Either way, I doubt you can maintain your .900 winning pace for an entire season (if you do, then my gosh its the best team in the history of baseball by far).

[Disco Dog 13]

Originally Posted by magicspeedo

L-R-L-R doesn't matter as much if their attribute splits aren't that different. If a dude has a 95 contact vs LHP and a 91 contact vs RHP it's not going to matter as much. I can say that with your line up, White needs to be 3rd. What you're doing is like batting Pujols 5th in his prime...dude...he's by far your best hitter, and with your line up, that is saying something since you have a billion excellent contact/power hitters. What stands out is he has an exceptional eye mixed with exceptional contact/power. None of your other guys have that, and the guy you have batting 4th has a terrible eye (I don't know what his eye potential is, but let him develop a little before you put him 4th).

Again though, your line up is so crazy good that it won't make much of a difference in reality. But it will affect their ratings if they don't perform at a level that can maintain their attributes. And right now, Stanton isn't. That's really the only thing I would even worry about.

Either way, I doubt you can maintain your .900 winning pace for an entire season (if you do, then my gosh its the best team in the history of baseball by far).

Being a "Brit" - and therefore not completely up to date with all of the baseball terminology etc - can you explain what you mean by Stanton not having any "Protection" please ?
Wasn't entirely sure what you meant

[magicspeedo]

Originally Posted by Disco Dog 13

Being a "Brit" - and therefore not completely up to date with all of the baseball terminology etc - can you explain what you mean by Stanton not having any "Protection" please ?
Wasn't entirely sure what you meant

When you protect a hitter, it means you put a guy after him who is almost as good, or at least a good enough hitter that it forces pitchers to actually pitch to the guy you are protecting.

This is what the 4th hitter usually is. You put your best hitter #3 and then you protect him by putting your second best (and usually best power hitter) #4. If you don't protect your best hitter, then opposing pitchers can just intentionally walk him and then the next hitter is an (comparatively) easy out, thus nullifying your best hitter.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that the #5 & #6 guys are generally protection for your #4 hitter. #3 should be your best hitter always. #4 second best hitter (or best power hitter if your second best hitter isn't a power hitter)

[Disco Dog 13]

Originally Posted by magicspeedo

When you protect a hitter, it means you put a guy after him who is almost as good, or at least a good enough hitter that it forces pitchers to actually pitch to the guy you are protecting.

This is what the 4th hitter usually is. You put your best hitter #3 and then you protect him by putting your second best (and usually best power hitter) #4. If you don't protect your best hitter, then opposing pitchers can just intentionally walk him and then the next hitter is an (comparatively) easy out, thus nullifying your best hitter.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that the #5 & #6 guys are generally protection for your #4 hitter. #3 should be your best hitter always. #4 second best hitter (or best power hitter if your second best hitter isn't a power hitter)

So in my scenario should I move Story from No. 2 then ?

[magicspeedo]

Originally Posted by Disco Dog 13

So in my scenario should I move Story from No. 2 then ?

depends, is he fast or slow? If slow, yeah I'd put him at 4th, if fast (any shade of green for baserunning/speed) then I'd leave him there.

With as many good hitters as you've got, I would put White 3rd for sure, then your 2 best base runners at 1 & 2, then your next best power hitter at 4, then your next best hitters at 5/6

Edit: I hate to ask for screen shots of the batting page of your 9 guys, but it would help so I can see their gap/avoid K as well as base running stuff.

[Disco Dog 13]

[Disco Dog 13]

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[magicspeedo]

You don't really have a true leadoff hitter, so you have to get creative. Keep in mind, with your line up, just about anything will work.

Garza is the only player close to being built like a lead off hitter, but Story will work there because he's relatively quick for your team and he can hit like crazy (contact). Basically, Trout would have been your no brainer lead off guy.

Edit: Bryant is quick and can hit, but his eye and avoid K are way too low for me to put him at lead off. Although, he could work because of his speed and base running ability.

Marerro is interesting because I really wanted to put him in the top of the line up, but he's so ungodly slow that he works better later in the line up. He could work at the 3 spot, but you have guys who are better hitters that should go there. Really, Marerro would be batting 3 or 4 on any other team. In fact, if his eye hits the 70's potential it says, then he should be batting 3 or 4 for your team as well.

To be honest, I would trade one of your outfielders for a dominant CF and leadoff hitter if one exists in your game. Then you could move Garza to the 9 hole where he would be much better. And by "one of..." I mean Stanton or Bryant. Depending on who you think will last longer/has a better contract situation/etc.

Vs RHP (Option 1)
1 - Garza (SS)
2 - Story (3B)
3 - White (LF)
4 - Harper (CF)
5 - Foster (1B)
6 - Stanton (RF)
7 - Bryant (DH)
8 - Marerro (C)
9 - Sanchez (2B)

Vs RHP (Option 2)
1 - Story (3B)
2 - Bryant (DH)
3 - White (LF)
4 - Marerro (C)
5 - Harper (CF)
6 - Stanton (RF)
7 - Foster (1B)
8 - Sanchez (2B)
9 - Garza (SS)

Vs LHP (Option 1)
1 - Garza (SS)
2 - Bryant (DH)
3 - Story (3B)
4 - Marerro (C)
5 - White (LF)
6 - Stanton (RF)
7 - Harper (CF)
8 - Foster (1B)
9 - Sanchez (2B)

Vs LHP (Option 2)
1 - Story (3B)
2 - White (LF)
3 - Marerro (C)
4 - Stanton (RF)
5 - Bryant (DH)
6 - Harper (CF)
7 - Foster (1B)
8 - Sanchez (2B)
9 - Garza (SS)

[Disco Dog 13]

Thanks Speedo

I've never studied the L/R ratings of each player - but will pay more attention now !!

I used to alternate between a leftie starter against a RHP and a rightie starter versus a LHP

Have had a lead off Switch hitter for last new years so have just kept exactly the same lineup for both LHP & RHP

Just goes to show if you search for additional layers of the game a far better understanding is available

[Disco Dog 13]

I've gone with option 1 for each as I want to keep Garza as my lead off

Am 51-9 before the change so will let you know how this progresses

Have been lucky with injuries apart from my pitchers where Strasberg is out for 2-3 months and one of my best relievers Tim Duncan is out for 11 months

Have yet to see any massive drops in ratings due to serious injuries so will have fingers crossed for this ...

[Disco Dog 13]

I can get Trout and a C prospect for an SP prospect an an MR prospect

Trout is 64 - potential 65



Goodwin 38 - pot 70



For

Kelley 27/78



Leal 20/64



My Manager doesn't seem to keen on the idea though !!'



What do you think ?
Anything else worth considering ?

[magicspeedo]

Originally Posted by Disco Dog 13

I can get Trout and a C prospect for an SP prospect an an MR prospect

Trout is 64 - potential 65

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Goodwin 38 - pot 70

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Kelley 27/78

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Leal 20/64

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My Manager doesn't seem to keen on the idea though !!'

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What do you think ?
Anything else worth considering ?

At this point, I wouldn't give up an SP prospect for Trout. Trout looks like hes on his way down.

Since I don't know the status of your rotation, I would be hesitant to get rid of any SP prospect unless the deal included 1 or more SP prospects as well.

What you can do is just trade one of your aging outfielders for a few good young OF prospects that include a good CF prospect. With CF, you gotta look at defense first, so make sure his OF range and OF Error are at least in the dark green range (70/100 I think). His arm can be 40/100 at the worst. But then you need to look at his speed and his hitting ability and see if hes a leadoff hitter.

Trout is a decent leadoff hitter at this point, but I would gladly exchange ALL of his power for 90/100 contact & gap and 80/100 eye and avoid K. However the speed/stealing/baserunning should all be in the 90s.

[magicspeedo]

Originally Posted by Disco Dog 13

I've gone with option 1 for each as I want to keep Garza as my lead off

Am 51-9 before the change so will let you know how this progresses

Have been lucky with injuries apart from my pitchers where Strasberg is out for 2-3 months and one of my best relievers Tim Duncan is out for 11 months

Have yet to see any massive drops in ratings due to serious injuries so will have fingers crossed for this ...

Yes, massive injuries sometimes give you massive drops. Sometimes though, as just happened to me, I had a SP prospect get hurt for 12 months just 2 days after I traded for him. He served his time and came back and is now the second best SP in baseball...to Strasburg who is also in my rotation

Since your guy is a reliever, if he doesn't have potential to be a closer (think 90+ for stuff, 80+ for movement and control) or a SP (3 pitches 60+ & stamina 40+) then you might as well look to replace him in the draft or bring up a guy from your minors.

With the record, keep in mind that your win % was going to drop at some point regardless of the change. A bad change would make it drop to close to .500, a good change or no change should stay above .650, but closer to .700 for your team.

[Disco Dog 13]

Bit like the batting line as there loads of strength in depth - even with 3 of my best pitchers on the DL

Have got 17 MRs who are either at r have potential to reach 75 or above
..... 11 of which are at it could reach 78- 80

I don't do ageing
... I've only got 1 player who is 30 or over

For some reason there always seems to be someone who will take a guy of 31/33 who is on $10M+ who is under performing off my hands .... Trading for 2 or 3 prospects seems to sway it and and course I'm reducing the wage bill by a huge amount so can afford to sign a younger, stronger replacement for less or worse case scenario the same money.

And after 110 games
.... I'm 91-19
.827

[magicspeedo]

Originally Posted by Disco Dog 13

Bit like the batting line as there loads of strength in depth - even with 3 of my best pitchers on the DL

Have got 17 MRs who are either at r have potential to reach 75 or above
..... 11 of which are at it could reach 78- 80

I don't do ageing
... I've only got 1 player who is 30 or over

For some reason there always seems to be someone who will take a guy of 31/33 who is on $10M+ who is under performing off my hands .... Trading for 2 or 3 prospects seems to sway it and and course I'm reducing the wage bill by a huge amount so can afford to sign a younger, stronger replacement for less or worse case scenario the same money.

And after 110 games
.... I'm 91-19
.827

Yeah, ur team is loaded. And you're doing it the way I do as well. I tend to trade my guys before they're 30 or whenever their arbitration is up.

So I would suggest looking for a few more prospects that are contact hitter with exceptional speed that are excellent defensive guys at either 2B, SS, or CF to give yourself dominant #1 & #9 hitters.

Also try to get pitchers that give up 70% groundball with 95+ MPH velocity with decent control (60+). So you can package your prospects up for the truly dominating guys (if you don't already have them all!)

And since you have so much talent in your organization, try to develop 1 or two guys who are already stud defensive players. At the worst they could end up being back ups. But if you can get their hitting up to par with your guys, then your team might go 160-2 one season lol!

[Disco Dog 13]

Slightly off topic but is there a record for either Team runs or an individuals RBIs in a single game ?



I have great hope for these guys - a lead off for the future is hopefully within these 3







plus Castillo should be a decent Power Guy

[magicspeedo]

Originally Posted by Disco Dog 13

Slightly off topic but is there a record for either Team runs or an individuals RBIs in a single game ?

30 is crazy. I got 24 yesterday, but not 30. I have no idea what the record is, but I bet google would know

Originally Posted by Disco Dog 13

I have great hope for these guys - a lead off for the future is hopefully within these 3

plus Castillo should be a decent Power Guy

Best leadoff prospect is between Kirby and Lopez.

Kirby has great contact potential and he can hit the gap. But he doesn't have the elite speed/stealing/baserunning you want from your leadoff man. Still his contact should be enough and his running is good enough.

Lopez does have the elite running ability, but is sort of short in the avoid K department. You don't want your leadoff man getting a ton of strike outs. Hopefully he develops past what the scouts think in that department. If he does, he will be your best leadoff man. But, honestly, he looks more like a #4 hitter rather than a #1.

Green has good speed but is just average at running and stealing and cannot hit the gap. For me, I wouldn't consider him a leadoff prospect. He would be batting 6th or so, depending who I have at 4 & 5. In your line up, hes batting 8th or 9th if he develops exactly as it shows. He does have decent speed, so he could bat 9th. Generally your 9th guy is like a second leadoff man so that when you bat around it links the bottom of the line up and the top of the line up together. But he has great power potential, so he could really bat anywhere in your line up (4th or later). You want your 1/2/3 spot guys to be able to hit the gap.

Castillo could develop into a #3 hitter if he exceeds his potential. He can bat anywhere 3-8 depending on what you got.

[Disco Dog 13]

according the google ..

"Most runs in the modern era (after 1900) occurred this year August 22nd 2007 when the Texas Rangers won 30-3 over the Baltimore Orioles."

and

"12 RBI in a single game. Number of occurrences: 2 Jim Bottomley, September 16, 1924; Mark Whiten, September 7, 1993."

Harper missed it by 1