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Old 09-09-2019, 12:25 PM   #1
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Live Update cards--What actually changed?

The download tells me whose overall ratings changed, however, it does not tell me what ratings changed on the card.

Since the game doesn't use the Overall rating, how can I tell what improved/degraded on my players?

I'm particularly interested in Garver, the Twin's catcher whose Overall keeps going up, but who plays like Charlie Brown for me.
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Agreed. I guess it's on us to take notes or build spreadsheets. Doesn't seem to me like Frankie Lindor's individual stats changed even though he had a great week.

I also want to know why there's so much inconsistency with the ratings, even after all these months. Why is rookie Yordan Alvarez still below a 70 overall? Why didn't Verlander or Cole finally reach 100 this week (after stellar performances) when they're arguably better than Scherzer and DeGrom? Why is veteran reliever Yusmeiro Pettit a lowly 59 when he's got a 2.78 ERA and .82 WHIP?

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I also want to know why there's so much inconsistency with the ratings, even after all these months. Why is rookie Yordan Alvarez still below a 70 overall? Why didn't Verlander or Cole finally reach 100 this week (after stellar performances) when they're arguably better than Scherzer and DeGrom? Why is veteran reliever Yusmeiro Pettit a lowly 59 when he's got a 2.78 ERA and .82 WHIP?
Ratings are a joke. Why is POTM Jack Flaherty an 88 when in August he put up a 0.71 ERA, a 0.737 WHIP, 11.1 SO/9, 5.22 SO/W over 6 starts (38 IP)? It's not like this is just a one-month stretch, either, since he's been MLB's best pitcher since the ASB.
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Verlander and Cole are hampered by their hr/9. Verlander is allowing 1.5 hr/9; the highest rate in his career so his movement is down. Stuff (k/9) and control (bb/9) are fine though.

Cole is allowing 1.3 hr/9, second highest in his career, so again, movement is hampering him. Stuff and control are fine since his k/9 and bb/9 are both solid.

Jack Flaherty is allowing 1.2 hr/9 and ZIPS isnt too kind to him. Projecting him to give him 9 runs, in 3 more HR, in his final 20 innings, so he would finish with a 3.65 ERA, nearly 0.66 higher than his current ERA. Also projecting a WHIP of 1.25 which is 25% higher than his current WHIP. Essentially they're expecting regression.

The calculations include a number of variables and the overall of a player does too. In the case of Verlander and cole, they're hampered by HRs, which is pretty much every live pitcher out there besides someone like soroka, etc. For Flaherty, they're expecting regression, similar to Lucas Giolito, Jorge Soler, etc. These cards will benefit greatly in the next version when ZIPS accounts for a full year of significant production.


Just reiterating what the Devs say on nearly all of these posts so I'm trying to save them time so they can keep working on Tournaments!
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Ratings are a joke. Why is POTM Jack Flaherty an 88 when in August he put up a 0.71 ERA, a 0.737 WHIP, 11.1 SO/9, 5.22 SO/W over 6 starts (38 IP)? It's not like this is just a one-month stretch, either, since he's been MLB's best pitcher since the ASB.
ERA and WHIP are completely irrelevant to this game's pitcher modeling. You see, the game actually attempts to separate the luck component from the skill component and assign ratings accordingly.


In August, Flaherty did pitch well - I'm not disputing that. But he also was INCREDIBLY lucky. His BABIP against was just .202. His strand rate was 96%. These are both huge red flags that indicate a lot of luck was involved.


If you look at FIP (which comes very close to the game's actual pitcher modeling) you'll see his FIP in August was literally 3X his ERA. And by FIP he wasn't even the best pitcher in August...he was 5th best. So yeah I think an 88 rating is fairly justifiable, not "a joke".
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Ratings are a joke. Why is POTM Jack Flaherty an 88 when in August he put up a 0.71 ERA, a 0.737 WHIP, 11.1 SO/9, 5.22 SO/W over 6 starts (38 IP)? It's not like this is just a one-month stretch, either, since he's been MLB's best pitcher since the ASB.
This is because we do not solely base the POTM card ratings on the monthly stats. Otherwise they would be all ludicrous.
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