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Old 03-10-2013, 01:53 AM   #61
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Class of 2042 (1970): Lajoie, Allen, Martinez

This may be the best class, since the original 5, to be inducted. All 3 of the entrants get in on their First Ballot. They represent the 28th and 29th players inducted into this HOF and the previous one, the 23rd RL HOFer inducted into this one, and the 9th RL HOFer to be inducted into both OOTP HOF.

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Nap Lajoie was drafted in 2015 by the Red Sox with the 18th overall pick. He played with Boston through the 2032 season. He retired in 2036 after making stops in Dallas and Jacksonville.

A 7 time All Star, Lajoie collected 3171 hits (11th) in his career. He hit 669 doubles (7th), 53 triples and 269 HRs. He scored 1478 times (t-34th, Tony Campana) and drove in 1551 (41st). His career slash line of 327/368/449 makes for a npa OPS+ of 134. At the time of his induction, Lajoie has the 9th best career BA in league history.

Of his 21 seasons, he played in 100 games, or more, 17 times. Of those 17, he hit .300 or better 12 times and 5 times he collected at least 200 hits.

In 2024 he cracked a career high 240 hits (15th). Only 10 players in league history have had more hits in a season. He became the first player in league history to collect 200 singles in a season. His 217 still stands as the record. This was accomplished after the league had shortened its regular season to 158 games. He slashed 375/404/467 for a npa OPS+ of 136 that year. He also drove in exactly 100 runs and scored exactly 100 runs.

Having hit 18 HRs in his rookie season, he hit at least 20 in each of his next 6 seasons. In 2022 he had his highest npa OPS+ number, 194, on a 376/415/693 slash line. He hit 28 HRs that year. After that he never hit more than 17 in a season.

As a rookie, the Red Sox went to the WS. Lajoie hit .343 in that post season, but fell in 6 games to Ralph Kiner, Mel Ott, and Kevin Mitchell's Phillies. Lajoie hit .313 in 56 post season games, but never returned to the Fall Classic.

Lajoie won 2 GGs at 1B and had 429 SBs (t-43) in his career.

Black Ink: 35 (76)
Gray Ink: 142 (266)
HOFm: 236 (262)
HOFs: 58 (66)

Gorilla Composite: 5.0 (7.7)

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Dick Allen, imo, is the best pre-steroid era hitter that is not in the RL HOF who isn't on the ineligible list. Here, there was nothing borderline about his qualifications.

He was the second pick overall in 2019 by the Dallas Burn. Joining a WS winning expansion squad already stacked with HOFers, Allen immediately showed he would carry his own weight, just fine, in his rookie season.

He smacked 47 HRs and 218 hits (he collected 200+ hits in each of his first 3 seasons) drove in 138 and scored 135 while slashing 323/382/617 (npa OPS+ 172). Allen won the ROY award, but more importantly, the Burn won their second WS in their second year of existence. Allen joins teammates Lance Berkman, Steve Garvey, Charlie Keller, Harry Salisbury, and George Sisler in the HOF. None of these players in 2020 were past their prime. This was an absolutely dominant team.

In 2025, Allen missed the month of August with an oblique injury. He still managed to hit 48 HRs in 125 games and drive in 138 to win his 2nd consecutive MVP Award. It was his third in 4 years. He would pick up MVP honors one more time in his career. Only Willie McCovey, with 6, won the award more times.

He led the Burn to another WS title in 2025. He was the only remaining HOFer on the roster from the 2020 team. No other player from that squad has been inducted, yet.

Allen hit 597 career HRs (18th), drove in 1598 (31st), and scored 1488 (31st, one more than HOFer Bill Melton) on 2364 career hits (72nd). His career line of 307/387/610 makes for a simply astronomical npa OPS+ of 170. His career slg% is ranked 9th at the time of his induction. No eligible player is ahead of him that is not already in the HOF.

In 2024, in a 158 game season, he scored a league record 177 runs. That record still stands.

Allen was named to 8 AS Teams. Allen played the majority of his games as an IFer, and a majority of those games as a 3Bman, so he enters as such. Not surprisingly, Allen never won a GG.

Black Ink: 44 (27)
Gray Ink: 177 (159)
HOFm: 264 (99)
HOFs: 72 (39)

Gorilla Composite: 6.1 (3.5)

Applying the standards in place to RL, Dick Allen should be in the RL HOF.

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Pedro becomes the second Martinez to be inducted into this HOF, joining Edgar. They are the second namesake tandem here (Jimmy and Ed Walsh).

Pedro was the first player chosen in the 2015 draft. He went to Kansas City.

In his career he pitched a perfect game, he struck 20 players in a game, but he never won a WS.

Pedro was a 9 time All Star who twice won the Cy Young Award. These mentions severely understate his greatness.

Martinez enters the HOF with the second most career strikeouts in league history, 4769. He walked 998. He pitched 3992 2/3 (10th) career innings. Staggering rates. He won 250 games (9th, 1 behind Justin Verlander) vs 165 losses. His OOTP ERA of 2.91 (8th) gives him a phenomenal npa ERA+ of 155 (compare to RL ERA+ of 154).

He won his CYAs in consecutive seasons. Having joined the Mariners in 2022, he chose that season to win his firsts, and followed up with another in 2023. He was a combined 35-15 with 638 strikeouts in those two seasons. 8 times he led the league in strikeouts, and 8 times he struck out over 300 men in a season.

Black Ink: 70 (58)
Gray Ink: 267 (215)
HOFm: 220 (208)
HOFs: 57 (60)

Gorilla Composite: 5.5 (5.0)

Using the standards in place here and applying them to RL, Pedro Martinez should enter the RL HOF on the First Ballot.

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Class of 2043 (1971), Part 1: Parker, Tulowitski, Bowden

Five hitters and one pitcher enter this year.

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Dave Parker becomes the 30th player to be inducted into both converted tractor sheds that have acted as my Cooperstown(s).

Parker was selected by the Reds with the 15th overall pick in 2008. He chose not to sign with them.

In 2009 he was again selected with the 15th overall pick. Again, he was selected by the Reds. Consenting to fate, he signed with them.

In a career that spanned 22 seasons, Parker played for 6 teams through 2031. In that time he collected 2771 hits (20th). 478 of those were HRs (t-53, Bill Melton). He also hit 568 doubles (20th) and 61 triples (t-90th, Al Oliver). His 1715 RBI rank him 21st on the all time list, one ahead of Albert Belle and two ahead of Gavvy Cravath. He also scored 1412 runs (49th, 2 behind Ted Simmons).

A 7 time All Star and twice a Gold Glove winner, Parker was given MVP honors in 2015 when he batted .318 with 51 HRs. He collected 201 hits that season, one of three seasons he reached that mark. This was his only 50 Hr season. He drove in a career high 144 runs, and scored a career high 131. His slash line of 318/389/650 gave him a npa OPS+ of 185, tieing his career high.

He posted a career slash line of 301/347/531 that gave him a npa OPS+ of 138. Parker hit .301 in 25 post season games over 4 seasons, but never played in a WS.

Parker enters the HOF by virtue of his HOFs number being above the Hall average.

Black Ink: 14 (26)
Gray Ink: 108 (145)
HOFm: 164 (124)
HOFs: 58 (42)

Gorilla Composite: 3.5 (3.6)

Since the entry of Jim Rice into the RL HOF, there have been many well founded arguments that Parker is equally deserving. I have been opposed to Parker's entry due to his personal issues and his involvement in the Pittsburgh trials. However, that was nearly 30 years ago. To my knowledge, Parker has been a model citizen, and there was nothing that he did that is beyond forgiveness. I cannot say that I endorse his RL induction, but I am no longer opposed to it.

Using the standards in place here and applying them to his RL stats for induction into the RL HOF, Parker should be a HOFer. And he did make that throw in the 1979 ASG. That, in and of itself, merits HOF consideration.

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Continuing the theme of 15th selections overall, Troy Tulowitski was selected with that pick in the 2017 draft by the Brewers. He played through the 2037 season and enters the HOF in his first year of eligibility.

A 5 time AS, Tulowitski earned 7 GGs at SS. He is all over the career SS leaderboard. He leads in games, hits, HR, RBI, and a host of others.

For his career, he collected 2637 hits (35th), 496 HR (42nd), 1710 RBI (25th), and scored 1465 times (39th) while slashing 271/345/480 (npa OPS+ 125).

After the 2023 season he signed a huge 6 year deal with the Cardinals. In 2027, 2028, and 2029 he was the starting shortstop for the Red Bird teams that took home 3 straight WS titles. In 2027, HOFer Walter Johnson was on the squad. In 2028 George Sisler joined Tulowitski and Johnson. In 2029, both Sisler and Johnson were allowed to leave as Free Agents. Tulowitski is the only HOFer from the 2029 squad, at this time.

Following the 2029 season, the Cardinals decided not to compete with the Padres offer of a 2 year $27.8M contract (which was a lower per year ammount than the Cards had been paying him) and Tulowitski went to San Diego.

What happened? Tulowitski led the Padres to WS victory....his 4th consecutive championship. One word: Wow.

Tulowitski hit 20 or more HRs 15 times in his career. He hit at least 20 in each of his first 11 seasons.

Tulowitski was a software inductee. He did not enter on the FBS, but he does enter in his frst year of eligibility by virtue of his HOFm/s numbers being above the current Hall averages.

Black Ink: 3
Gray Ink: 72
HOFm: 187
HOFs: 59

Gorilla Composite: 3.0

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Tim Bowden is the latest in HOF entrants that I am not going to beat myself up over not knowing who in the heck Tim Bowden is. In RL, Bowden made 10 PAs. He struck out six times, got 2 singles and drew a walk...all of this action was in 1914.

Here, the player development dice were more than kind to him. Bowden was a 7 time AS, a GG winner, and an MVP. At the age of 82, Bowden is now a HOFer who enters on the Veteran Standard.

Bowden surprised everyone, as he was not drafted until the 74th pick overall in 1981. The Tigers selected him, and they never knew what they had.

Relegated to the roll of minor league call up for injuries with the Tiger organization, the Reds claimed him off of waivers in during the 1985 season. In 115 games for Cinci, Bowden hit .299 and 15 hrs.

In 1988 Bowden hit .363 to win the batting title. He also jacked 23 HRs and drove in 90 in a cavernous Riverfront Stadium. He scored 116 times and slashed 363/457/577 for a npa OPS+ of 195. These numbers were MVP winners for Bowden. More importantly, he also led the Reds to the WS and a WS victory. That 1988 team also featured original inductee Jose Reyes.

For his career Bowden slashed 301/411/479. Bowden ranks 9th on the career OBP list. Bowden collected 2104 hits, 267 HRs, drove in 1150, and scored 1260 (t-88th, George Sisler). Bowden walked 1310 times in his career (26th).

Black Ink: 11
Gray Ink: 98
HOFm: 93
HOFs: 48

Gorilla Composite: 2.7

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Class of 2043 (1971), Part 2: Kluszewski, Miller, Blackwell

Ted Kluszewski is 31st player to be inducted into both of my HOFs.

Big Klu was the 16th player chosen in the 1997 draft. He went to the Orioles.

He immediately scorched AL pitching for 60 HRs and 171 RBI in his rookie season. He cracked 210 hits and his slash line of 319/359/649 was good for a npa OPS+ of 162 and Rookie of the Year honors.

During the 2002 season the Orioles traded him to San Diego for two names that will never appear in this thread.

Following a 100 loss 2004 season in San Diego, Klu left for the White Sox as a Free Agent. If there was ever a player that singlehandedly took his team to the play-offs, it was Kluszewski in 2005.

All he did was bat .393 (10th best ever, only 5 players have hit higher for a season), hit 82 HRs (t-4th, Ralph Kiner), drive in 188 (4th), and get 253 base hits (5th). He had a .434 OBP and a .820 slg % (7th) for a npa OPS+ of 225!

These numbers were good for a Triple Crown and MVP. However, baseball is a team game, and the Sox didn't make the Series. Klu never played in one.

He slashed 302/350/577 for a career npa OPS+ of 143.

He cracked 482 HRs (t-49th, Pablo Sandoval) on 1998 hits and drove in 1381 (74th).

Kluszewski was twice an All-Star and he enters the Hall by virtue of his Black Ink score being above the Hall average.

Black Ink: 25 (11)
Gray Ink: 83 (112)
HOFm: 145.5 (76)
HOFs: 40 (24)

Gorilla Composite: 3.3 (2.1)

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Hack Miller is the epitome of the shooting star entry. He logged 10 years and 84 days of ML service time, gaining eligibility for the HOF by 85 days.

In only 8 of his 11 seasons did he play more than 83 games. In that time he hit 1530 hits and 351 HRs. OK, that isn't enough.

His career slash line is 322/356/608 (npa OPS+ 159). Getting closer.

How about a ROY season better than Kluszewskis? 61 HRs, 220 hits, a batting title winning .367 average and a npa OPS+ of 204?

How about winning the batting title in each of his first 3 season while hitting 179 HRs? Now that is the stuff of Legend.

And how about, like Kluszewski, he turned in a Triple Crown MVP season in 2020 with a trad line of .355-73-174?

And he followed that up with a second MVP season in 2021.

OK, THAT is a HOFer.

A four time All-Star, Miller ranks 13th on the career BA list and 11th on the career slg list.

Miller enters by virtue of his Black Ink and HOFm numbers above the Hall average.

Note: This is the Hack Miller that played off and on from 1916-1925.

Black Ink: 43
Gray Ink: 100
HOFm: 193
HOFs: 40

Gorilla Composite: 4.4 (note than in less than 11 years of service time, Miller has a GC over the expected HOF average of 4.0)

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Ewell Blackwell was the second player chosen in the 2014 draft. Picked by the Royals, he opted not to sign with them. So, back into the draft pool he went and in 2015 he was picked by the White Sox 65 picks later. No telling how much signing money this cost him, but apparently he wanted to play in Chicago because he stayed there until he retired in 2031.

During his 19 year-old rookie season injuries limited to just 14 games and a 4-5 record. He suffered the absolute reverse of the sophomore jinx in 2017 as he went 22-7 with a OOTP ERA of 2.36 (npa OPS+ 184). He struck out 314 men in 252 IP and won the CYA.

At the age of 21, he showed veteran poise and improved his game in 2018. He posted a record of 18-6 and sported an OOTP ERA of 1.63 (npa OPS+ 263!!!) and struck out even more men (329) in fewer IP (231.1). This earned him another CYA.

A mere 16-7 record and a measly 289 Ks was not good enough for the CYA trifecta in 2019.

In 2020, he finished his career hat trick with a 21-3 campaign in which he Ked 303 men.

For his career he was 178-120 with an OOTP ERA of 3.10 (20th) and 3071 strikeouts (31st) in only 2727 IP. His career npa ERA+ is a proud HOF number of 146.

The only drawback to his career was that he never could put it together in the post season. In 3 starts he was 0-2 with a 5.71 ERA and he walked 15 in 17 1/3 IP.

Still, 3 CYAs and 3000 Ks at a rate that his him near Walter Johnson is Hall worthy.

Blackwell joins the Hall with a Black Ink number above the Hall average.

Black Ink: 41
Gray Ink: 126
HOFm: 117
HOFs: 43

Gorilla Composite: 3.2
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Class of 2044 (1972), Pitchers: Haren, Roberts, Spahn

Dan Haren was the first player taken in the 2013 draft. He chose not to sign with the Royals and was drafted with the 5th pick in 2014 by the Giants. He signed with them.

A six time All Star, Haren enters the HOF with the 5th most career wins in league history, 281. All pitchers with more wins are already in the Hall (W. Johnson, Cain, Carlton, Mullane). His 3850 strikeouts are the 7th most for a career. He also has the distinction of giving up the most HRs in league history, 490.

To be the All-Time leader in HRA, you have to have pitched a long time and been a quality pitcher, and Haren filled both requirements. His 20 year career spanned through the 2034 season. In his 2034 Swan Song, the veteran won his first WS as a member of the Detroit Tigers. No player from that squad has been inducted previous to Haren, but that will change.

Haren never put up an eye popping K total in a season, but he only walked 781 batters in his career to give him a K/W rate of almost 5.

In 2025 he had his only 20 game win season. He went 22-8 with an OOTP ERA of 2.49 (npa ERA+ 159). He also notched a perfect game. In a sheer coincidence, that was a free agent season. He signed to play with Cleveland in the off season. Though he remained a quality pitcher, he never reached All Star level in any remaining season. Sheerly a coincidence....

His career 281-216 mark gives him a career .565 win%. His career OOTP ERA of 3.39 equated to a solid HOF npa ERA+ of 127.

Haren enters by virtue of his Gray Ink and HOFs numbers being above the Hall average.

Black Ink: 28
Gray Ink: 235
HOFm: 138.7
HOFs: 55

Gorilla Composite: 3.8

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Ray is not the pitching Roberts one would expect to be a HOFer. But, today, it is Ray.

Another splotchy portrait in the photo pack guy, Ray Roberts pitched 3 RL games, and was 0-2 with an ERA over 7.

Here, the dice powers that be were very kind, indeed. He had a very interesting an extraordinary career.

A late round draft pick (there is never more than 5 rds, here...usually only 3 and change, with the supplemental picks being classified as 1st rders), Roberts was drafted in the 3rd rd, 124th overall, by the Pirates. He didn't hold out.

He spent most of his first professional career in the minors. At age 23 he was a regular Big Leaguer and tallied 19 saves. In each of his next 7 years he would have at least 29 each season.

By the age of 35, he had nearly 400 saves. There were younger flame throwers that took his place as the colsing specialist, and Roberts was relegated to middle relief duties.

In 2026, he was traded midseason from Oakland to Boston. As a Red Sox, at age 37, he made his first career start. He left Boston as a Free Agent that off season to join the Dodgers.

Being used exclusively as a MR, the 38 year old Roberts made 27 appearances and carried a 1.95 OOTP ERA over 31.1 IP. He had one win and one save.

He joined the Nationals the following year and made 11 starts. Two years later, he signed with the Brewers for his final season. In that last season, at the age of 41, Roberts earned the closer job, once again. Roberts took the mound 66 times and earned 42 saves (tying his career best) in 46 chances and carried an OOTP ERA of 3.13.

For his career, Roberts made 1160 (9th) appearances and saved 426 (t-6th) games. His OOTP ERA of 3.04 made for a npa ERA+ of 145.

In 2013 he saved 34 games pitching to HOF catcher Buck Ewing as the Pirates won the WS. In 15 post season games, Roberts made 11 appearances in 2013 and saved 9 games.

Roberts was named to 2 All Star teams. He enters the HOF by virtue of hos HOFs number being above the Hall average, once the career save bonus is added.

Black Ink: 3
Gray Ink: 27
HOFm: 120.9
HOFs: 15

Gorilla Composite: 1.2

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Warren Spahn may be my favorite pitcher of all-time. So, it is with great pleasure that he is welcomed into the converted tractor shed.

Span was selected by Oakland with the second pick overall in the 2015 draft.

Though he didn't win ROY, as a 20 year old in 2016, Spahn won 17 games and struck out 256 hitters in 249 1/3 IP posting an OOTP ERA of 2.60. His npa ERA+ of 157 would stand as the best in his career.

In 2018, Spahn was 18-7 and struck out a career best 311 men as he and veteran Jesse Burkett led the Athletics to WS victory.

For his career, Spahn was 249-175 and had 3583 career Ks (12th). Hos OOTP ERA of 3.49 gives him a career npa ERA+ of 126. His 249 wins ties him for 11th place on the career win list with a player who becomes eligible next year. He has one more career win than Harry Salisbury and one fewer than Pedro Martinez.

A 4 time All-Star, Spahn enters the HOF by virtue of his Gray Ink number being above the Hall average. Spahn is the 24th RL HOFer to enter this Hall.

Black Ink: 18 (101)
Gray Ink: 215 (374)
HOFm: 130.4 (260)
HOFs: 48 (66)

Gorilla Composite: 3.2 (7.1)

According to the Gorilla Composite, in RL Warren Spahn is the greatest LHP, ever.

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Class of 2044 (1972), Hitters: Becker, Easterly

Two RL contemporaries from the deadball era join the HOF on their first ballot.

Beals Becker was selected with the second pick in the 2016 draft by St Louis. He did not sign with them and was selected the following year by Tampa with the 7th overall pick.

As a 21 year-old rookie, he hit 29 HRs, drove in 86 and scored 100 times.

In 2023 he hit 54 HRs, drove in 137 and scored 116 while slashing 297/378/628 (npa OPS+ 171). He also stole 36 bases as he not only won the league MVP, but also led the Rays to a WS title.

In his penultimate season of 2036 (kinda, he didn't play in '37, but saw his last NL action in 2038) he won a second WS, this time as a Met. Becker is the first player from either of these teams to join the HOF.

In a career which included 10 ASGs, Becker hit 40 + HRs 7 times, and broke 50 3 times.

He retired with a career slash line of 296/360/586 for a hefty career npa OPS+ number of 155.

On 2448 hits (56th), he knocked 626 HRS (14th, 1 behind Ed Lennox), drove in 1664 (26th), and scored 1517 times (32nd). He went down swinging an even 1700 times (60th, btw). He also had 296 SB, for good measure.

Becker enters in his first year of eligibility on the First Ballot Standard.

Black Ink: 32
Gray Ink: 121
HOFm: 236
HOFs: 63

Gorilla Composite: 4.8

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Ted Easterley was the first player chosen in the 2020 dra. Picked by and signed to the Cubs, Easterley played ML ball through the 2038 season. He and Becker were the only two players to be inducted by the software for this class. Easterley did not get in on the First Ballot Screening. However, his HOFm and HOFs numbers were both above the Hall average, and he gained entry when his name came up for the standard screening.

Like Becker, Easterly had a fine 2023 season. he batted .350 to win the NL Batting title.

For his career he carried a .325 batting average, 10th best in league history, overall, and best amongst catchers. his .367 career OBP and .460 slg% give him a career npa OPS+ of 125.

a 5 time All Star, Easterly hit .339 over three post seasons, but never made a WS.

Easterley collected 2509 hits in his career, 46th.

Black Ink: 9
Gray Ink: 68
HOFm: 204
HOFs: 56

Gorilla Composite: 3.3
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Halfway Home

With the previous class, we have passed the unofficial half way point of this Hall as now more than half of the players that will be entered have been entered.

A piece of news that was not noted is the lowering of the pitching mound in 2042. This hasn't impacted any numbers for current entrants, but down the road it will. The pitchers already had a tough time getting points, this will make it a bit harder to get HOFm/s numbers, but will have no effect on the Ink numbers.

I had predicted that we would see 50 repeat entrants. So far we have 31. I did not make a prediction on the number of RL HOFers that I expected, but I would have guessed the same number, I suspect. We currently have 24. Thinking about it, it makes sense to me that there would be more repeat OOTP HOFers than RL HOFers since OOTP is running these leagues and RL HOFers that don't translate as well, statistically as some who were snubbed, or ineligible, are more likely to enter here.

I had predicted that we would have 20 RL HOFers from the previous HOF that would be entered here. We currently have 9. So, those numbers are on an expected pace.

I did a check to see which leader board stat was the most indicative of HOF entry for hitters and pitchers. I went down the lists and saw how far down I had to go to find an eligible player who had not been inducted. For both hitters and pitchers the most indicative stat was VORP. I am drawing no conclusion from this, other than it is what it is. Will see if this holds true at the end of the league run.

The current GC mean score for HOF members is 3.9 and the standard deviation of entrants is 1.5. That puts Once in a Generation Willie McCovey's 10.8 score nearly 5 times that of the average HOFer.

The median score of the HOFers is a 3.6. The median entrant is Jesse Tannehill. He is represented by plot 86 on the chart.

We still see the "floor" as slightly above the 2 line, but as of late it is looking more like a cushion.

I have included the chart from the previous HOF, using the same numerical adjustments that are in use here, for comparison.

The average GC at this point in the previous HOF was 4.5. These higher scores can be directly attributed to the lower injury rating extending careers, reducing the number of partial seasons by top players, and the fact that fewer teams were in the league.



We have 3 pitchers that spent the majority of their careers as RPs in the HOF.
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Class of 2045 (1973) Pitchers: Black, Clarkson

Bob Black is the first reliever to be inducted in his first year of eligibility. Reviewing his record, he did some unheard of things.

The Red Sox chose him with the 19th overall pick in 2022. When he retired in 2039, he had appeared in 1069 games (t-11th). Except for 8 starts in 2033, all of his appearances came in relief. In 1186 IP, he struck out 1689 men while walking only 402. His career K/9 rate of 12.8 ranks him 2nd all time.

He saved 459 games, 4th on the all time list there.

A 6 time All Star, Black twice led the league in saves. The first time he did so was in 2026. He saved 43 games. He struck out 94 men in 64.2 IP. His OOTP ERA was 0.56. The AL ERA was 4.23. This made Black's npa ERA+ a highest-I-can-ever-remember figure of 760.

Except for his 2033 season where he started 8 times, only one other season did he pitch more than 80 innings. In spite of this, Black struck out 100 men in a season 10 times.

Black limited opponents to a .204 batting average over the course of his career. That is the best in league history.

He has nearly the best H/9 ratio in league history. His 6.663 rate places him second on that list. The leader has a 6.662 rate.

He won 77 games while getting tagged with 78 losses. His 2.91 career OOTP ERA in this offensive futuristic environment gives him a beyond belief npa ERA+ of 186.

In the 2026 post season, he appeared in 4 games, pitched 4 innings, and got 4 saves, striking out 4, and allowing 0 runs.

In 2027, he again pitched 4 innings, but gave up 4 HRs. That's baseball....

Black never saw a WS.

Black enters by virtue of his HOFs number being above the league average when the career save bonus is added.

Black Ink: 6
Gray Ink: 35
HOFm: 134
HOFs: 21

Gorilla Composite: 1.6

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John Clarkson enters in his first year of eligibility...as a Veteran....and gets in on the Veteran Standard.

Clarkson was selected by the Indians with the 12th pick of the 2005 draft.

With the Indians he did the inconceivable....he won back to back WS with the Tribe.

He won 34 games combined in the 2007-2008 regular seasons to get Cleveland to the play-offs. In 2007 he was teammates with HOFer Joey Votto. In 2008 Albert Belle and Pablo Sandoval joined in the fun as Clarkson went 3-0 in 3 starts, striking out 32 in 23 1/3 IP during the post season to pull off the repeat effort.

In 2022 he was a veteran presence on an Oriole team that also won the WS. He is the first player from that team to be inducted into the HOF.

For his career, Clarkson won 228 games (t-24th, Daryl Kile) while dropping 163 decisions. He struck out 3222 batters (26th) and posted a career 3.95 OOTP ERA (npa ERA+ 112). Clarkson retired following the 2025 season.

A 3 time AS, and 2x 20 game winner, Clarkson is the 25th RL HOFer to be inducted, here.

Black Ink: 15 (60)
Gray Ink: 124 (204)
HOFm: 114.2 (252)
HOFs: 42 (65)

Gorilla Composite: 2.5 (5.3)

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Class of 2045 (1973), Hitters: Bonds, Mayberry

Bobby Bonds, not Barry, once again gets a plaque in the converted tractor shed. He is the 32nd player to be inducted into both HOF.

Bonds was the firt pick overall in 1999. Selected by the Devil Rays, the two parties did not come to terms and he returned to the draft pool for 2000.

The Giants selected him with the 7th overall pick and, not surprisingly, he did sign a deal with them.

Bonds had a shooting star type of HOF career. He played through the 2014 season and logged 12 1/2 years of ML time in that span.

He burst on to the scene in 2001 with a ROY award winning season in which he hit .308 with 40 HRs and 113 RBI in 124 games. A .397 OBP and .634 slg gave him a npa OPS+ of 175. He also stole 31 bases in 39 attempts.

In 2005 he jacked 72 HRs, drove in 151, scored 152, and collected 202 hits...all career highs. His slash line of 313/388/705 gave him a career high npa OPS+ of 194.

8 times he drove in 100+ runs in a seasons. 7 times he scored 100+ runs. He was a 7 time All Star and picked up one GG in RF. 10 times he hit 30 or more HRs.

His career slash line of 286/368/565 gives him a solid HOF career npa OPS+ of 149. He hit 469 HRs (59th), drove in 1291 (95th) and scored 1275 (88th, one more than Dutch Zwilling) while collecting a cool looking 1818 hits. Bonds also stole 273 career bases. Known in RL for his propensity to K, Bonds struck out 1656 times (72nd) in his 6360 ABs.

Bonds appeared in 7 post seasons, appeared in one WS, but holding to family tradition, he did not win a title. He did hit 7 HRs in the 2011 post season, but his Rangers fell to the Dodgers in 5.

Bonds enters the HOF at the age of 65 by virtue of his HOFm number being above the Hall average.

Black Ink: 15 (6)
Gray Ink: 111 (132)
HOFm: 167 (66)
HOFs: 46 (36)

Gorilla Composite: 3.3 (2.3)

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John Mayberry Sr was selected with the 8th overall pick in the 2015 draft by the Minnesota Twins. At the age of 18, n his 2016 rookie season, he hit 31 HRs in just 91 games. That foretold what was to come. Mayberry played through the 2034 season and ended his career with 695 HRs, the most in league history, at the time of his induction. He also had 1877 career RBI (9th) and scored 1654 runs (11th).

Like classmate Bonds, Mayberry was a 7 time All Star and had 7 seasons scoring 100+ runs. He bested Bonds in 100 RBI seasons, performing the feat 10 times in his career.

Aside from the SB differential (Mayberry had 9 in his career) their careers are somewhat similar except for the fact that Mayberry played longer.

Mayberry's best season totals came in 2022 when he had career highs in HRs (60), RBI (139), R (135), and BB (120) and slashed 277/409/649 for a npa OPS+ of 182.

He had a career slash line of 271/383/55 for a npa OPS+ of 154. He was plunked 209 times in his career, which boosted his OBP figure a few notches.

Also, like Bonds, Mayberry was never able to capture a WS win. Unlike Bonds, in 4 trips to the post season, he never made it to the Fall Classic.

Mayberry enters the HOF with his Gray Ink, HOFm and HOFs numbers all above the Hall averages.

Black Ink: 13 (5)
Gray Ink: 150 (71)
HOFm: 174.5 (20)
HOFs: 56 (16)

Gorilla Composite: 3.8 (1.1)
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Class of 2046 (1974), Part 1: Banks, Epstein

3 hitters and 1 pitcher enter in this class. The first 2 entrants join in their first year of eligibility. There may be more, but I don't know because I haven't run through the rest, yet.

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Ernie Banks. Mr. Cub. Let's play two. Good to have you here, Sir!

In this world, Bamks was drafted with the 4th overall pick by the Blue Jays (who 2 years later became the Edmonton Attackers). Banks played for Toront/Edmonton through the 2039 season. At the age of 40, he felt he still had some baseball left in him and signed on with the Indians. He still did. Used as a pinch hitter, he batted .304 and hit 6 HRs in 62 ABs in 2040, before calling it a HOF career.

Those final PAs gave him 668 career HRs (10th) and 2741 hits (26th). He hit 1 double in his final season to give him a cool career total of 444 (t-89th, Al Rosen). Banks drove in 1874 (10th) and scored 1546 (26th).

A 10 time All-Star, banks won the MVP in 2026 when he posted career highs in HRs (73), RBI (166), Hits (231), runs (162), and all components of his slash line (353/409/765). He had a career high npa OPS+ of 212 for the season.

He hit 415 HRs in some 1200 games as a SS (2nd to Troy Tulowitzki) and is the Toronto Edmonton leader in career HRs, RBI, runs, hits, doubles, and HBP (101 is 1 more than than second place on the team list).

In his first 9 seasons he hit at least 33 HRs and drove in at least 107 RBI. An injury in 2031 limited him to 92 games, but in 2032 and 2033 he hit 48 and 49 HRs and drove in 149 and 155. So, in his first 11 seasons with 100, or more, GP, he met the 33/107 minimum.

8 times he ht at least 40 HRs, 3 times he broke 50.

His career slash line is 296/339/571 which makes for an npa OPS+ of 146.

He went to the play-offs 5 times, made one WS, but came up short getting a ring.

Banks enters on the First Ballot Standard.

Black Ink: 42 (26)
Gray Ink: 163 (167)
HOFm: 302.5 (170)
HOFs: 69 (46)

Gorilla Composite: 6.1 (4.1)

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Mike Epstein is the second member of the 600 HR club to gain entry to the HOF this time around. His 610 career blasts is the 18th highest total in league history. His 1645 career RBIs has him in a tie for 29th on the All-Time list.

Epstein was the 7th player selected in the 2019 draft. Debuting with the Pirates in 2020, he hit for the cycle in his first month of ML action. For the campaign, he hit .300 with 37 HRs and 108 RBI to take ROY honors.

In 2024, he hit 38 HRs and was the power source for a WS winning Pirate team. HOFer Jesse Tannehill was also a major player in that WS title run.

In 2026 he hit a career high 50 HRs and drove in a career high 123, and scored 113 times, which tied his career best from his rookie season.

Epstein was an All-Star 11 times. He had a career slash line of 273/401/537 that makes for a npa OPS+ of 157. Jamesians drooled over him, throughout his career.

He collected career total of 2346 hits (84th, 4 ahead of George Sisler, 1 behind Jeff Blauser) and scored 1536 times (28th, 3 more than Jesse Burkett). His 1576 career walks rank him 4th all time. No player with more walks is not in the HOF.

He also whiffed a lot (like Jamesians care): 2274 times (5th) in 8584 ABs (60th).

Epstein did not gain entry on the FBS, but from a standard screening. The numbers from all of his metrics, save Black Ink, exceed the Hall averages.

Black Ink: 9
Gray Ink: 171
HOFm: 170
HOFs: 60

Gorilla Composite: 3.8
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Banks is 26th RL HOFer inducted

Now that the forums are back up, I am unable to edit my previous posts. I did not note that Ernie Banks is the 26th RL HOFer inducted, here. So, I am making a new post to make that note. If the edit feature is now disabled, I will try to minimize my errors and omissions, but there will be plenty of them. So, I apologize in advance if the posts become sloppier.
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Since I am unable to edit in the forum, I have moved posts to my blog page. I will be posting updates there, for now. If I can't edit, this thread will become an absolute mess, in no time. So, the blog location seems to be the best solution, for now as I am able to edit there.

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Class of 2046 (1974), Part 2: Brett, Galvin

I have got the workaround for the edit snafu in Opera, so I will continue with the league postings here. I think it is good to maintain activity on the historical board, for now. The OOTP 14 league may be here or on the blog. I haven't decided. Have had some other projects that have taken my time away from here in the past week. I am looking forward to the upcoming classes as the dynamics of the induction process have become very interesting.

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George Brett was selected with the 12th pick of the 2009 draft by the Pittsburgh Pirates. He retired after the 2030 season having logged 21 MLB seasons.

A 6 time All-Star, Brett won 4 GGs at 3B.

Brett never chased .400 in this universe, but he did hit over .300 9 times and collected 200 hits in a season twice.

Brett enters the HOF as the league leader in career doubles, with 786 (RL leader Tris Speaker had 792).

For his career he slashed 294/343/497 (npa OPS+ 128) with 3279 hits (7th), 108 triples (t-5th), 419 HRs (80th), 1827 RBI (11th), 1594 R (18th), and 124 SB thrown in, as well.

In 2013, at the age of 22, Brett hit .308 with 17 HR and drove in 88 as he and fellow HOFer Buck Eweing, led the Pirates to a WS victory. That same year, Brett was suspended for 10 games for failing a drug test. Brett is rated as 'normal' intelligence on his player page, so while the game is set up to give drug suspensions to players with lower intelligence, an average intelligence does not make a player immune from this OOTP pitfall.

While a drug suspension has no impact on how I select HOFers, Brett had a spectacular career, and really should have been on more than 6 AS teams. The career and lack of AS appearances by Brett in them makes me wonder if there is a personality component to AS selections in that after the suspension Brett was classified as "Disliked" in his Popularity trait. All Star appearances give points in the HOFm category, so there is impact on that aspect of Hall entry, if popularity comes into lay for ASG selections.

At the age of 54, Brett gave a tearful induction speech in which he acknowledged his substance abuse problems.

Brett enters by virtue of his HOFm and HOFs numbers being above that of the HOF averages.

Black Ink: 14 (39)
Gray Ink: 106 (159)
HOFm: 172.5 (210)
HOFs: 65 (61)

Gorilla Composite: 3.7 (5.2)

Brett is the 27th RL HOFer to be enshrined, here.

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Pud Galvin is the 28th RL HOFer to be inducted here. He is the 33rd player to be inducted into both OOTP HOF. He is the 10th RL HOFer to be inducted into each.

Galvin was selected by the Washington Nationals with the 9th pick in the 2017 draft.

Galvin was 12-18 in his 2018 rookie season for a Nationals squad that finished in 4th place with a 72-90 record. In 235 2/3 IP he struck out a league best 337 men. The 3.40 OOTP ERA he carried for the season equated to a npa ERA+ of 121.

In 2019, he had one of the most amazing seasons a pitcher has had in league history. Pitching for another 4th place nationals squad that finished 79-83, Galvin sported an amazing 22-4 record. His OOTP ERA of 2.03 made for a symmetric npa ERA+ of 203. He struck out 384 batters in 257 IP. All of these were league bests, except for ERA, where he finished second, narrowly missing the pitcher's Triple Crown.

In 2020 he was 21-6, 2.56 (npa ERA+ 166) with 357 K in 245.2 IP.

In his first three seasons, Galvin had achievend legendary status. 1078 strikeouts in 738 1/3 IP will do that.

In his remaining 12 season, he was up and down. 6 seasons he had a npa ERA+ above 100, 6 times he had one below 100.

He retired in 2033 with a career 177-175 W/L record and an OOTP ERA of 3.76 (npa ERA+ 117). He struck out 2822 (46th) and walked 757 in 3108 (88th) career innings.

His 14 career shutouts ties him for 60th place on the All-Time list. Only 5 players who started their careers in 2019, or after, have more shut outs.

Galvin is a HOFer based on the brilliance of his early career. He enters by virtue of his Black Ink number being above the current Hall average.

Black Ink: 41 (19)
Gray Ink: 145 (250)
HOFm: 74.1 (202)
HOFs: 29 (60)

Gorilla Composite: 2.7 (4.1)
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Class of 2047 (1975): Staub, Griffey, Nix

The 34th and 35th players to be inducted into both OOTP HOF join in this class.

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Double HOF entry Rusty Staub enters on the First Ballot Standard in his first year of eligibility.

The 13th player taken in the 2015 draft, Staub was selected by the Arizona Diamondbacks.

In 2019 he won his first of three consecutive league batting titles, batting .337 with 19 HRs and 89 RBI. In 2020 he had a trad line of .379-13-94.

In 2021, winning his third straight batting title, he won his first of 2 consecutive MVP awards by slashing 388/502/693 for a npa OPS+ of 224. All of the slash figures are career highs. The .502 OBP stands as the best OBP in a single season in league history. He hit 37 HRs, drove in 97 and scored 122 times.

In 2022 he repeated as MVP by hitting a career high 43 HRs and slashing 335/429/627 (npa OPS+ 185). He drove in and scored 129 runs.

Staub banked on these performances and signed a 3 year deal with Baltimore. He hit over .300 each of those Oriole seasons and averaged over 35 HRs and 125 RBI per season.

He left Baltimore via Free Agency and joined the Rangers. He hit over .300 for his 8th consecutive season.

Staub appeared in the post season 9 times and was a part of 5 pennant winning teams. In 2039 he rejoined the Orioles. There he tasted WS victory for the fist time, at the age of 41. In 89 regular season games he batted .320 and carried a npa OPS+ of 165. This would be his last post season appearance. Staub is the first player inducted into the HOF from this Oriole team.

In 2043, Staub entered the season 24 hits shy of the career hit mark of 3600, held by Ty Cobb. He signed a 1 year deal with the Mariners. Staub managed to get only 20 hits in limited playing time and PH appearances. His rate numbers fell off the table. Staub retired 4 hits behind Cobb. Perhaps his decision was influenced by the fact that Cobb's record would be surpassed, shortly, whether or not he did it himself. Staub enters the HOF 3rd on the all time hit list with 3596.

Staub enters the Hall with 606 HRs (20th), 2171 RBI (4th), 711 doubles (4th), and 1885 (7th) runs scored. He walked 1524 (8th)times. That added to his career slash line of 309/393/537 (39th/45th/76th) for a npa OPS+ of 154.

A GG winner and 8 time All Star, Staub enters the HOF as the all time leader in games played: 3113.

Black Ink: 24 (4)
Gray Ink: 197 (89)
HOFm: 278 (59)
HOFs: 74 (38)

Gorilla Composite: 5.6 (1.9)

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Ken Griffey Jr was selected by the Astros with the 8th pick in the 2014 draft. He is the 35th player to be inducted into both OOTP HOF.

In the previous league, Griffey was a once in a generation player and in the discussion of best player in league history. Here, with the increased injury rate, he was reduced to being merely a solid HOFer.

In 21 big league seasons, Griffey played in 150 games only 4 times. As an 18 year-old rookie, he played in 157 games, batted .307, hit 46 HRs and drove in 140 to win ROY honors.

He hit 50+ HRs in a season 5 times. This is amazing. In 2018 he batted .376 with 55 HRs in just 124 games. His npa OPS+ from that season was a career high 234.

The following year he hit a career high 65 HRs in 147 games.

Griffey was a 9 time All Star. He was also a post season monster. In 8 post seasons he hit 12 HRs in 127 ABs batting .354 and carrying an OPS of 1.114.

In 2026, as a SF Giant, he was hobbled by injuries throughout the season, but helped the Giants win the WS. He is the first player from this team to be inducted.

For his career, Griffey swatted 676 HRs (8th) in his 2466 base hits (58th). He drove in 1827 (11th) and scored 1531 (32nd, 1 ahead of Gavvy Cravath and 2 behind Jesse Burkett). He also swiped 102 bases. He has a career npa OPS+ of 146 from a slash line of 277/351/577 (slg 46th).

Griffey enters the HOF with Gray Ink, HOFm, and HOFs numbers all above the current Hall averages.

Black Ink: 13 (26)
Gray Ink: 159 (162)
HOFm: 215 (235)
HOFs: 63 (61)

Gorilla Composite: 4.3 (4.9)

Based on the standards here as applied to RL, Griffey should enter the RL HOF on the first ballot.

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The Selection Committee hopped into the way back machine and grabbed Laynce Nix to round out this class. An active RL player, Nix was a member of the Inaugural Draft (selected in the 21st rd, 491st over all....a STEAL!) in 1973.

57 years following his retirement, and at the age of 96, Nix gave his induction speech. Nix is the oldest player to be inducted and also the player who had the longest time between his retirement and induction.

Nix doesn't show up in the career leaderboards, but he had one of those careers that typifies players inducted into the RL HOF by the Veteran's Committee.

An 8 time All Star, Nix won 2 GGs and an MVP. In 1978, playing home games in the Astrodome, Nix hit 35 HRs and drove in 106 in only 130 games. He batted .314, got on base at a .354 clip, and slugged an incredible .617. The npa part of npa OPS+ is very important as the 169 figure does not do justice to his seasons output.

He led the Astros to a WS title in that 1978 season. He is the only player from that team to be enshrined.

In coincidence of coincidences, 1978 was also the FA season for Nix. He left the cavern of the Astrodome to ply his trade in the nominally more hitter friendly Busch Stadium of 1979. He did not rest on his laurels from the previous year. He jacked a career high 42 HRs and batted a career high .331.

For the 4th time in 5 years, in 1982, Nix batted over .300 while hitting 30 HRs and driving in 100. He did bat over .300 in 1981, but played in only 82 games, due to injury and did not hit the 30/100 marks. As a Cardinal, he enjoyed his second WS win. HOF pitcher Tony Mullane won 14 games for the Cardinals, that season.

In 1985, he joined the Phillies and led a team containing Babe Ruth in HRs. Nix had 36 while Ruth had 35. Note that Nix played in 122 games while Ruth played in 95, but Nix had a BA of .328 which was nearly 100 pts higher than Ruth. HOFer Alex Serrano saved 43 games as the Phillies took the Baseball Crown, and Nix won his third WS with his third team.

For his career Nix had 2013 hits and 379 HRs. He slashed 291/334/527 for a npa OPS+ of 138. The vast majority of his home games were played in extreme pitcher friendly parks, so this OPS+ is understated.

Nix enters the HOF on the Veteran Standard.

Black Ink: 8
Gray Ink: 228
HOFm: 106.5
HOFs: 42

Gorilla Composite: 2.6

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I really like this class. We have a First Ballotter, in Staub. 600 HRs (which in this environment is kind of like what 500 was in 1990) and nearly the All Time hit leader. FB makes sense.

Griffey had to wait 6 years after he became eligible. He had great career numbers, but was never an MVP and the fact that he had so few complete seasons in his 21 years of play kept him from FB consideration.

Nix is a classic VC pick. The career of Enos Slaughter came to mind as I reviewed Laynce's career. These are the kind of picks the VC makes. And I am very pleased to see the Hall process here replicate the RL inductions. That is the whole point of this. Joy in Gorillaville.
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Class of 2048 (1976) Pitchers: Ewing, Ehret

4 players (2 hitters and 2 pitchers) enter this class. Of the 4, none of them are either RL HOFers of inductees in the previous OOTP HOF.

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John Ewing was selected in the 3rd rd of the 2014 draft. At the age of 18 he went to the Wite Sox as the 138th pick, overall.

He pitched all of his first season in AAA. In August of 2016, his second season, having not yet reached the majors, the White Sox released him. The Padres signed him to a minor league deal that same day. In November of 2017, he was traded to the Brewers along with a minor league catcher for Walt Masterson, a journeyman pitcher who had just posted a career best 15-10 mark in 2017. This trade would come to look like the deal that sent Randy Johnson to Seattle and Mark Langston to Montreal.

Ewing spent the 2018 season, again, in AAA, and made his Major league debut in 2019. In 17 starts he compiled a 10-3 record and an OOTP ERA of 2.62 (npa ERA+ 156) and struck out 150 batters in 117 IP while walking only 28.

In his first 10 seasons, Ewing struck out more than 1 batter an inning in each season. He had an ERA+ above 100 in each of his first 12 seasons as a big leaguer.

For his career he struck out 2968 men (40th, 2 more than Javier Vasquez) in 2898 2/3 IP while walking 962. He retired following the 2033 season, having spent that entire campaign in AAA.

Ewing played all of his ML games as a member of the Brewers. He enters the HOF as the All Time Brewer leader in IP, and Ks and WHIP. He is second to HOFer Matt Kilroy on the team leaderboard in Wins and ERA.

Ewing retired with a record of 185-126 and a career OOTP ERA of 3.07, which is good for a spectacular npa ERA+ of 146. His 185 wins places him 100th on the All-Time ML win list at the time of his induction. His .5949 career w % places him in a tie for 53rd on the All Time chart. His 1.201 Whip is 63rd best in league history for a career.

In 2023 he won the CYA as he went 19-7 with an OOTP ERA of 2.65 (npa ERA+ 149) striking out 280 hitters in 234 1/3 IP while walking 68. His ERA was a league best, and it was the third consecutive season that he led the league in that category. His 19 wins was also a league high. he finished 3rd in the strikeout race.

In three post seasons he had a 2.64 OOTP ERA, but he never reached a WS.

Ewing was named to 5 All Star teams. Ewing enters the HOF with Black Ink and Gray Ink numbers above the current HOF averages.

Black Ink: 44
Gray Ink: 199
HOFm: 103.5
HOFs: 41

Gorilla Composite: 3.5

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Red Ehret finds himself slotted alphabetically next to his classmate on the list of pitchers enshrined here. OK, it means nothing, but two pitchers out of 2 with the last name intial of E is just one of those things that catches the eye.

Ehret was selected by the Mets with the 8th overall selection in the 2010 draft.

Prior to the 2018 season he signed a 3 year deal with Toronto. At the age of 25, he went 19-7 for the Blue Jays with an OOTP ERA of 3.32. This was a npa ERA+ of 129. Perhaps because the signed him to a big contract based on his 2017 where he had a npa ERA+ of 189, they left him unprotected in the expansion draft that brought Dallas and Jacksonville into the league.

He was selected by Dallas and joined what is now a large contingent of HOFers that brought that expansion franchise WS title wins in each of it's first two seasons. Ehret went 40-13 in the regular season in his two WS years with the Dallas Burn.

Ehret joins Lance Berkman, Adrian Gonzalez, Steve Garvey, Charlie Keller, Harry Salisbury, and George Sisler, who were all in their primes in 2019, as a member of the HOF from that expansion Dallas team, the best team in league history, bar none. Well, excpet for the 2020 squad which was joined by ROY and HOFer Dick Allen.

His contract expired after 2020, and Dallas couldn't keep all the high paid players they had, and he left for Arizona, where he pitched until he retired following the 2027 season.

Ehret was a 5 time All Star as he compiled a career record of 216-163. He ranks on 26th the All Time win list (2 behind James Shields). He struck out 2708 men (65th) and walked 781 in 3452 IP (52nd). His career OOTP ERA of 3.46 is a npa ERA+ of 127.

Red Ehret enters the HOF at the age of 55 on the Veteran Standard.

Black Ink: 28
Gray Ink: 151
HOFm: 107.5
HOFs: 41

Gorilla Composite: 2.9
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Class of 2048 (1976) Hitters: Powell, Milan

The league has expanded to 36 teams. Memphis and Charlotte are the new NL additions.

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Boog Powell enters the HOF at the age of 59, 20 years after his retirement.

Powell was the 15th player selected in the 2006 draft (Marlins). His career here is similar to Ken Griffey Jr's. He was plagued by injuries that cost him significant playing time in over half of his seasons. In spite of this, he still put up tremendous career totals.

Following the 2025 season Powell had 2422 career hits. He wanted to reach 2500, but no team gave him a job in 2026....or in 2027. In 2028 he received a minor league offer from the Dodgers, which he accepted. Powell again faced injuries and retired having collected only 3 hits in 18 ABs in 2028.

Powell, of course, was a power guy. Here he hit 613 HRs (18th, three more than Mike Epstein) and drove in 1632 (35th). He scored 1463 (49th, two behind Troy Tulowitski). He walked 1288 times (36th) to go along with his 2425 hits (70th, three fewer than Ed Konetchy).

he posted a career slash line of 291/386/562 (*/81st/40th)which was good for a manly HOF npa OPS+ of 157. He is 27th on the All Time OPS list, just behind Charlie Keller.

An 8 time All Star, Powell won 2 GGs at 1B. He took the Marlins to 4 post seasons, but never made it to a WS.

Powell enters by virtue of his HOFM and HOFs numbers being above the Hall average.

Black Ink: 7 (3)
Gray Ink: 125 (93)
HOFm: 170 (42)
HOFs: 56 (25)

Gorilla Composite: 3.4 (1.5)

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Clyde Milan had an even longer wait than Boog Powell. Having retired in 2012, Milan gave his acceptance speech at the age of 70.

Milan was a completely different type of player than Powell. 4 times Milan led the league in stolen bases. In 2001 he stole 134 to break the league record held by Tony Campana from 1979, the 7th year of the league. Since then, no one has surpassed Milan's mark, or Campana's. In 2002 he stole 102 bases, leading the league, again.

A 5 time All Star and a GG winner in RF, Milan stole 758 career bases (8th). He carried a career batting average of .304 (65th, 0.0001 ahead of Pete Rose and 0.0001 behind Vada Pinson)as he rapped 2477 base hits (59th, three behind Duke Snider). From 1999-2001, he collected 200 hits each season.

Milan was selected by the Brewers with the 6th overall selection in the 1996 draft. He played with them through 2011. He played his final season as a Mariner.

He had a career OBP of .390 (56th) and a career SLG or .403 (he had 73 career HRs) for a npa OPS+ of 115.

He appeared in 4 post seasons and took the Brewers to 1 WS, but like all players that have taken the Brewers to the WS, he did not win them a title.....

Milan enters by virtue of his HOFs number being above the current Hall average.

Black Ink: 21 (6)
Gray Ink: 112 (75)
HOFm: 113 (24)
HOFs: 51 (23)

Gorilla Composite: 3.3 (1.4)

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Since the 2012 season the league has been using the 2012 modifiers. The 158 game regular season schedule has been in effect since the 2021 season. With injuries having been set at High since the start of the league, in 1973, we have the following career totals:

16 players with 3000 hits
22 players with 600 HRs
5 players with 700 HRs
1 player with 1022 HRs

10 pitchers with 250 wins
1 pitcher with 300 wins
37 pitchers with 3000 strikeouts
5 pitchers with 4000 strikeouts
1 pitcher with 5000 strikeouts

High is the injury setting recommended by the designers to provide a realistic representation of modern day injuries.

While pitchers have not been reaching career win totals as they did in earlier eras, pitchers are accumulating career strikeout totals at a fair rate in spite of the high injury setting.

Likewise, 16 players with 3000 hits is a good number after 75 complete seasons. As noted in the previous post, there are now 36 teams, so more players are active at this time than at anytime in RL, so we expect to see more reach various milestones.

My conclusion from all of this is that the game does function very well in regards to the number of players reaching various milestones when the recommended injury setting of High is in use.

Sure, you may think it is TOO high if you let the occurrence of individual injuries be the determinant of what is "too many" to be realistic. Babe Ruth only hit 499 HRs due to recurring injuries. Roberot Clemente suffered a CEI before he got close to 3000 hits. Ozzie Smith suffered a CEI before he had 10 years of service in the league. If any one of those players is "your guy" and he suffers the same injury fate, you may think that "High" is "Too High".

Taking a dispassionate look at these results, and considering the era modifications in use for the greater part of the league, High seems to be "just right".

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Class of 2049 (1977): Clark, Carew, McJames

Will Clark enters on the First Ballot Standard in his first year of eligibility.

A 3 time MVP, Clark won 5 batting titles. He led the league in hits 5 times. He had at least 225 hits in each of those years. A 5 time All-Star, he won 5 GGs at 1B. Then the injuries began to arrive. He remained a servicable player, but one who had limited availability until he retired in 2043.

Clark was selected as the 7th player overall by the Colorado Rockies in 2027. In 2028 he broke in by hitting .353 with 46 HR and 137 RBI to take Rookie of the Year honors and his first MVP.

An injury limited him to 116 games in his sophomore season, but he still scored 100 runs and drove in 96 in that time.

In 2030 he played in all 158 games. He batted .375 with 63 HRs and 156 RBI to become the 8th player to win the triple crown. He had an OBP of .459 and a SLG of .756 which gave him a npa OPS+ of 229 and his second MVP.

In 2031 he again hit 63 HRs. He did this while carrying a batting average of .413! He led the league in that stat, and he led the league in RBI with 161, bt was 2 HRs off the league leader's pace to narrowly miss his second consecutive triple crown. He did pick up his second consecutive MVP, though as this season gave him a npa OPS+ of 244. He collected a league high, and career best, 260 hits. This was the most hits in the league since the schedule was reduced to 158 games.

Having not made a post season in Colorado, he left in 2034 to join Jacksonville as a Free Agent. He hit 42 HRs and drove in 123 while batting .347. His npa OPS+ was 190. He went to the post season for the first time, but fell in the LCS. Then the injuries came about in number and frequency.

He was a solid player for the rest of his career, but no awards came after this 2034 season.

He finished his career with 2364 hits (t-82nd, Dick Allen), 455 HRs (70th, 3 more than Ed Bailey), 1415 RBI (73rd, 3 ahead of Bob Robertson), and 1364 runs scored (75th, 1 more than Vic Saier). His career slash line of 316/389/567 (22nd/65th/35th) gave him a npa OPS+ of 158. He ranks 25th on the All-Time OPS list.

Black Ink: 82 (13)
Gray Ink: 155 (94)
HOFm: 295 (84)
HOFs: 57 (42)

Gorilla Composite: 7.3 (2.5)

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Rod Carew is the 35th player to be inducted into both OOTP Halls, the 29th RL HOFer to be inducted here, and the 11th RL HOFer to be inducted into both.

A member of the inaugural class in the previous HOF, Carew entered the league in 2026 after being drafted by the Tigers with the 7th selection in the 2025 draft.

Carew batted .318 for his career (t-17th), collected 3250 hits (10th), but surprisingly never won a batting title.

He did win Rookie of the year as he exploded on the scene batting .344 and posting what would be career highs in hits (227) doubles (58), HR (16), RBI (103), and slg (.520).

Playing his entire career with a 158 game schedule, he collected 200 hits in a season 6 times. His 162 game average for hits is 205.

In 2034 Carew's Tigers knocked out Will Clark's Jacksonville Tribunes in the LCS as the Tigers went on to claim the WS crown. Carew is the first member of this Tiger team to be enshrined in the HOF.

He left the Tigers following the 2040 season and signed with the Rangers. At age 35 he batted .344 while collecting223 hits in 2041.

In 2042, at age 36, he hit .341 and collected 213 hits.

A 6 time All Star, Carew hit 644 doubles in his career (12th). He scored 1564 times (27th, 5 more than Mark McGwire) and drew 1106 walks (75th, 2 more than Ty Cobb). His career OBP of .383 is tied for 99th best All Time. He posted a career npa OPS+ of 124.

Carew enters in his first year of eligibility with HOFm and HOFs numbers above the Hall average.

Black Ink: 10 (42)
Gray Ink: 112 (148)
HOFm: 186.5 (242)
HOFs: 63 (55)

Gorilla Composite: 3.7 (5.3)

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Doc McJames was the third player in 2009 draft (Mets). As a 19 year old rookie, in 2010, he posted an 11-4 mark with 173 Ks in 128 2/3 IP after being shelved for 3 months by an April hamstring pull. His OOTP ERA of 2.24 was good for a npa ERA+ of 188.

In 2011 he was completely healthy and won the Cy Young Award as he struck out 362 men in 265 innings. Only one other pitcher since 1977 (Pud Galvin, 384 in 2019) has struck out more men in a season. He compiled a 19-13 record and his OOTP ERA of 2.33 equated to a npa ERA+ of 176.

In 2014, McJames appeared in his only WS. He did not fare well, as he went 1-3 in the post season and the Mets fell to the Yankees in a Subway Series.

For his career, McJames had 3507 strikeouts (17th) in 3272 IP (70th). He won 212 games (40th, 2 ahead of Fergie Jenkins and Mike Moore)vs 156 losses and had an OOTP ERA of 3.47 (npa ERA+ 128).

McJames appeared on 5 All Star squads.

Doc McJames enters on the Veteran Standard.

Black Ink: 23
Gray Ink: 119
HOFm: 113.2
HOFs: 41

Gorilla Composite: 2.6

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Class of 2050 (1978): Piazza, Andersen

Mike Piazza was drafted in the first rd (9th overall) by the Phillies, in 2015. This was 61 rds ahead of where he was drafted IRL. Who says the OOTP scouts aren't better than their real life counter parts???

In 2016 he paid immediate dividends to the local team of the Norristown, PA born Piazza. He took home ROY honors by putting together a season where he batted .305, hit 56 HRs and drove in 121 ans cored 106. Slugging .640, he had an OPS of 1.007 and a npa OPS+ of 169. He led a team that included HOFers Ralph Kiner, Kevin Mitchell, and Mel Ott in hits, runs, Hrs, RBI, avg, and slg to World Series victory.

Piazza scored 100 runs in each of his first 6 seasons. He drove in 100 in each of his first 7 seasons. He batted .300 in each of his first 8 seasons. And 9 times he was an All-Star.

In 2021, he and Ralph Kiner and Mel Ott again powered the Phillies to WS glory. Again, Pizza hit 56 HRs to equal what would be his career high.

He played in Philadelphia through the 2030 season. He made stops in the Bronx and in the Mile High City before he retired following the 2032 season.

8 times he hit 40 or more HRs in a season. Three times he topped 50 HRs. He led the league in HRs three times.

For his career he cracked 2488 hits (59th), 591 of them HRs (26th, 1 behind Kevin Mitchell, 3 more than Albert Belle). He drove in 1537 (50th, 3 more than Mitchell) and scored 1366 (73rd). Twice he collected 200 hits in a season as he posted a career slash line of 292/350/546 for a npa OPS+ of 143.

Piazza started 2024 games at Catcher, 6th most All Time.

Piazza enters with Gray Ink, HOFm and HOFs numbers all above the Hall averages.

Black Ink: 16 (0)
Gray Ink: 164 (101)
HOFm: 291 (196)
HOFs: 67 (62)

Gorilla Composite: 5.0 (3.3)

Using the standards in place here and applying them to his RL output, Mike Piazza should be a HOFer.

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Larry Andersen is the first reliever to be inducted into either HOF in his first year of eligibility. The voters pretty much said to themselves that he would give such an entertaining speech that if that they could justify voting for him, they would...and they did.

Andersen commented on stopping at 7-11 on his drive to the ceremonies and wondered why, if they were open 24 hours a day that they had locks on the door.

Andersen was the 29th overall pick in the 2023 draft by the Angels. The two sides did not come to terms (perhaps there was a communication barrier) and he went back into the draft for 2024 and fell to a supplemental 1st rd pick, 76th overall, by the Tampa Bay Rays.

In 19 games in 2025, Anderson made 5 starts. Those were the only starts he made in his career. For about half of his 20 ML seasons he was used as a closer. He enters the HOF 10th on the All-Time save list with 368. He had a career record of 76-65 and an OOTP ERA of 2.90 for a npa ERA+ of 161.

Andersen was an All Star 4 times, and led the league in saves in 2035 as a member of the Jacksonville Tribune.

Andersen pitched 1230 1/3 innings and struck out 1123 men and walked only 376.

In 2044, at the age of 41, and his final season, Andersen was still getting the job done as he recorded 34 saves.

Andersen addressed his classmate noting that the one season that they played in the same league he failed to record a save. He also sought to once, and for all, quash tabloid rumors by noting that his classmate "gets more tail than a toilet seat at the Lilith Festival." The reactions of comedians was mixed to having their material blatantly lifted by the latest HOF inductee.

Andersen enters by virtue of his HOFs number being above the Hall average when the career save bonus is applied.

Black Ink: 3
Gray Ink: 40
HOFm: 135
HOFs: 17

Gorilla Composite: 1.4
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Class of 2051 (1979): Williams, DeLancey

Sweet Swingin' Billy L Williams is the 30th RL HOFer to be enshrined here.

Williams was selected by the Reds with the 5th pick in the 2025 draft.

As a 19 year-old draftee, he started the 2026 season in AAA. When he got the call-up from the big club, he hit .312 with 16 HRs in only 52 games. Needless to say, he stuck.

In his sophomore season of 2027, he batted .351 to win the league batting title. He hit 36 HRs and drove in 104 as injuries limited him to just 114 games. He slugged what wound up being a career high .660 for a career high OPS of 1.065 and a career high npa OPS+ of 190.

10 times he batted .300 in his career. 11 times he hit over 30 HRs. 4 times he cracked at least 48 HRs, and twice he topped 50. In 2034 and 2042 he hit 53 HRs for the season, leading the league each of those times.

In 2032 he collected what was then a career high 207 hits in his Free Agent season. He left Cincy for the Denver Boulders (yes, there are two teams in Denver) and there he posted a career high 208 hits while matching his previous season's average of .334.

Williams played in 5 post seasons, but, just as in real life, never made it to a World Series.

For his career Williams collected 2787 hits (25th), 604 of which were HRs (24th, 2 behind Rusty Staub). He drove in 1748 (23rd, 5 ahead of Al Rosen) and scored 1544 times (33rd, 2 behind Ernie Banks) . He posted a career slash line of 302/371/558 (84th/*/43rd) which gives him a npa OPS+ of 154.

Billy Williams enters the HOF ranked 52nd on the All-Time OPS list, 1 slot behind Rusty staub.

A 12 time All Star, Williams enters on the First Ballot Standard in his first year of eligibility.

Black Ink: 15 (18)
Gray Ink: 185 (208)
HOFm: 221 (122)
HOFs: 66 (48)

Gorilla Composite: 4.6 (3.8)


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Bill DeLancey is the first real shocker amongst the inductees here. Not that he got in, so much, but in that he becomes the 36th player to be inducted into both OOTP HOF. Lance Blankenship has already played and he is not becoming a HOFer (though he did put in the requisite 10 years of ML time) and he would have been a bigger shock, but Delancey getting into both is a true surprise.

DeLancey was the 29th player taken in the 1995 draft. He went to the White Sox.

In 1998 he posted career highs in ave and OBP as he slashed 300/414/530 for a career high npa OPS+ of 150 as he backstopped the White Sox to WS victory. Previous HOF inductees from that team are Albert Belle and Matt Cain.

DeLancey entered the previous Hall as a a WAR pick. Here he gets in by virtue of his HOFs number being just a hair above the Hall average. This metric uses career totals and primary position played for its computation.

DeLancy collected 2046 hits in his career that spanned 19 seasons. He hit 339 HRs, drove in 1314 and scored 1150. His career slash line of 259/362/448 gives him a npa OPS+ of 117. The 20 pts that received for being a catcher is what put him over the top for his induction.

DeLancey played for 6 teams, won 2 GGs at C, and played in one AS game. He is 4th in G and GS at C for a career. He started 2099 games as a catcher.

36 years after his retirement, DeLancey enters the HOF at age 75.

DeLancey is the first player to be inducted here with 0 Black Ink points.

Black Ink: 0
Gray Ink: 6
HOFm: 101.5
HOFs: 50

Gorilla Composite: 1.8

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