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Old 02-23-2013, 04:35 PM   #41
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Class of 2029 (1957): Burkett

I was listening to Joan Baez' "Diamonds and Rust" album while I was doing the screenings. For those of you who do not recall a time when the only time Major League teams played in Florida was February and March, albums are what we called the things we got our music from when music and and the time of day was only presented in an analog format.

I was finishing the screening for a player when the song "Jesse" began. The next player up on the list was Jesse Burkett. Before the song was over, he had become the 15th RL HOFer to be inducted here. It means nothing as far as the Hall is concerned, but I got a good laugh from it. And what the heck would I be doing this for, or playing OOTP, or ever watching a baseball game, if there wasn't an enjoyment to the goings on?

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Jesse Burkett stands in contrast to some of the previous entries in the type of career he had here. The RL Hall recognizes players for different accomplishments and contributions. There is no one set standard.

The recent entries of Mantle and Kemp, and to some extent Wheat, were based on a "Shooting Star" standard that we see for the likes of Kirby Puckett and Roy Campanella in the RL HOF.

Burkett arrives here as one of those players who gets in for longevity and the cumulative worth of his career. Is slightly amazing that he reaches his the HOF in this fashion when he chose to not play when he had his first opportunity.

Burkett was drafted 6th overall by the Giants in 1999, but didn't sign. In 2000, he was chosen by the Red Sox as the 25th pick, and inked a deal.

His career spanned 21 calender years. He retired after after the 2021 season with 2694 hits (18th), 449 doubles (51st), 1227 RBI (4-way tie for 81st), 1533 runs scored (17th), and 1338 walks (19th). He hit 223 HRs and stole 237 bases as he slashed 290/383/420 (npa OPS+ 119).

Burkett was never a dominant player, here. He appeared in only 1 All-Star Game. He won one GG. His finest season was in 2003 when he did lead the league in VORP, BB, PA, and OBP. In 2003 he slashed 340/427/507 for a npa OPS+ of 154. He had 215 hits (one of two 200 hit seasons), 19 HRs, and 44 doubles ad he drove in 122 and scored 106 while walking 95 times.

In 2014, at the age of 34, he joined a 34 year-old Mel Ott on the Yankees and together they brought a WS trophy to the Bronx.

In 2018, as a member of the A's, he agian tasted WS victory.

Burkett enter the Hall by virtue of his HOFs number being greater than the Hall average.

Black Ink: 4 (31)
Gray Ink: 78 (174)
HOFm: 70.5 (191)
HOFs: 49 (56)

Gorilla Composite: 2.2 (4.7)

The league has expanded to 34 teams with the addition of franchises in Columbus and Indy. The Blue Jays have moved to Edmonton.

Burkett is the 15th RL HOFer to be inducted into this HOF.

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As 2030 parallels 1958, there will be no entries in 2030.

Though we haven't seen any Floor Breakers, yet, we are still seeing the downward slanting of the floor that was observed at this same point in the previous HOF. The combination of increased entries and the implementation of the 5 year wait creates this dynamic. If you used RL HOF entries as the basis for entering players from any league environment, you would see this happen every time. You see this in the GCs of the RL players inducted in these years, also.

Soon we will have an entry that may be our first to crack the 10.0 GC barrier. I think we will end up with close to 6 of these players, even though we don't have any, yet. The league has expanded to 34 teams, so the superstars will be even better than the average player, because of this. These players will put up better numbers due to this, and they will have better HOFm and HOFs totals because of this.

Going from 32 to 34 teams will not have a big impact on players accumulating Ink Scores. The difference between 32 and 16 teams, however, is a BIG impact there.

The current GC average is 3.6. I think this number will edge upward as the league continues. I do not expect it to reach the 4.1 of the previous league, or the 4.0 of RL.
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Class of 2031 (1959): McCovey

48 years into the league, the first "Once in a Generation" player is inducted.

Willie McCovey is the best player, by far, to have played in this universe.

McCovey shattered the career HR and RBI marks. He won 6 MVPs (no one else has won more than 4). He won two triple crowns. He holds the single season record for HRs and RBI. He has the highest VORP and highest OPS for a single season, also.

Chosen as the 4th player overall in the 2004 draft by the A's. He collected exactly 200 hits and hit 57 HRs in his rookie season to win ROY honors. A broken finger cost him the final weekend of his rookie season. Playing in that hitting Hades of Oakland, he slashed 330/428/673 for a npa OPS+ of 190 in his rookie season. Then he started to develop.....

When he called it a career in 2024 he was, without question, the greatest player in League history. He hit 1022 HRs in his career. That's nearly 300 more than the old record held by Mark McGwire (who is now 3rd on the All-Time HR list). He drove in 2613 runs, which is nearly 500 more than the old record held by Gary Sheffield (who is now 3rd on that list....the same active player holds both 2 spots).

He also broke Sheffield's all-time Run record (Sheffield is still second on that list), retiring with 2091 touches of home.

McCovey had 3208 hits (8th), 451 doubles (tied for 52nd), 1705 walks (1st), and slashed 307/409/651 for an absolutely freaking astounding career npa OPS+ of 183. He is also the career leader in strikeouts with 2563....this upset exactly 0% of his managers during his career.

5 times he had 200 or more hits in a season. 10 times he hit 50+ HRs in a season. 15 times he hit 40+.

In 2009, one of his 6 MVP seasons, still playing in freaking Oakland, he set the all time HR record by bashing 89 and driving in 204. Both of these records still stand. The league is currently playing a 158 game regular season. He doesn't get an asterisk for setting these marks in a 162 game environment. Unless the schedule expands to something like 200 games, these records will stand until the end of this world arrives.

His 2009 slash line was 346/456/836. The OBP and SLG (and therefore, OPS) are all career highs. This line creates a npa OPS+ of 240.

After winning the MVP for the third time in three years in 2010 season, he left Oakland for Texas. There he won 3 more MVPs.

He was left unprotected in the expansion draft of 2018. The newly formed Jacksonville Tribunes happily acquired him. Though he was no longer the hitting monster of Ruthian proportions who had posted 7 npa OPS+ seasons above 200, he was still real freaking good. Losing half of the 2019 season to injury, he bounced back to hit 47 HRs in 2020. That mark is still 3rd best for Jax player.

McCovey went to 12 post seasons and hit 33 HRs in 323 career ABs. He appeared in 2 WS. About the only thing, other than Gold Glove, that McCovey doesn't have from his playing days is a WS ring.

McCovey was named to 13 All Star teams. Only Gary Sheffield's 14 appearances is more for any HOFer.

McCovey was not inducted in his first year of eligibility (there were no inductions to be had) but does enter on the First Ballot Standard, with his numbers in the Black Ink and HOFm categories double that of the Hall averages.

McCovey's entrance, even as one of 67 players, has a massive impact on the Hall numbers for future selections.

McCovey is the 16th RL HOFer to be inducted here.

Black Ink: 103 (31)
Gray Ink: 287 (126)
HOFm: 528.5 (110)
HOFs: 75 (44)

Gorilla Composite: 10.8 (3.6)

ADD: McCovey won 2 batting titles. Both times he won a batting title he won the Triple Crown. He led the league in HRs 8 times. He led the league in RBI 7 times. He has the most TB in history (6791). He bested the old mark, held by Gary Sheffield (currently 4th) by nearly 1000.

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No inductees for 2032 (which parallels 1960). The chart shows how much above the rest of the Hall McCovey is in the combined totaling of the Hall metrics (the Gorilla Composite).

Further McCovey Notes:

16 times in league history (12 different players) have 70 or more HRs been hit in a season. McCovey did it 3 times. No player has done it more often. (Dutch Zwilling is the only other player currently enshrined who has had a 70 HR season).

In addition to having the single season HR record of 89, McCovey hit 83 in 2012, which is a tie for second place.

McCovey had 199 RBI in 2012. That is second most, trailing only McCovey's record 204 in 2009.

McCovey's plot on the chart is easy to spot.
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Class of 2033 (1961): Garvey, Rose

I like to believe there is a baseball force in the universe that reveals itself, from time to time, as reminder that baseball represents "All That is Good."

With the news of Steve Garvey's battle with cancer hitting the wires, this week, I am honored to have Mr. Garvey's bust added to my imaginary tractor shed for this imaginary shrine. My wishes for Mr Garvey's complete recovery are very real and override any and all Cub fan animosity I still hold against him from 1984. So, get well soon, Steven Patrick Garvey, and we can call it even.

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Steve Garvey was drafted as the 14th pick in the 2006 draft. Taken by the White Sox, he played for 6 teams before retiring in 2025.

In his career he appeared in 10 All-Star games. This is the same number he appeared in IRL.

For his career, he collected 3337 hits (4th), 702 doubles (4th), 462 HRs (49th), 1737 RBI (14th), and scored 1506 runs (22nd). He slashed a career line of 308/344/510 for a npa OPS+ of 130. His 2760 Major League games is 10th most All Time.

Garvey played the majority of his career at 1B. He won 3 GGs, but two of those came as a third baseman.

He was selected in the Expansion Draft by the Dallas Burn and in 2019 and 2020 helped them to 2 WS crowns in their first 2 seasons of existence. Durng the 2019 regular season, he led the Burn in hits with 212. That was the 8th time in his career he had 200+ hits in a season. He would get a 9th in 2023 at the age of 35.

In 47 post season games over 4 seasons, Garvey hit .333 in 183 ABs.

In 2014 he had his best OPS+ season, a npa 153. In that season he walked a career high 62 times. He only had 50+ walks one other time in his career. He received 80 IBBs in his career. In 2014 he received 23. No other season did he have more than 7. 335/396/529, 209 hits, 25 HRs, 92 RBI is his quick and dirty line from 2014.

Garvey is the first player from those Dallas Burn teams to be enshrined in the HOF. He won't be the last.

Though entering after his first year of eligibility, Garvey enters on the First Ballot Standard.

Black Ink: 17 (12)
Gray Ink: 177 (142)
HOFm: 268.5 (130)
HOFs: 55 (32)

Gorilla Composite: 4.7 (2.9)

Garvey would not enter the RL HOF on the Standard Standard for this HOF, based on RL stats. However, he would perhaps get in on the VS (but I haven't calculated that threshold for RL HOF). Nonetheless, I feel Steve Garvey is RL HOFer. I found this short piece this morning as I was looking for an update on his health status:

Steve Garvey's career forgotten - ESPN The Magazine - ESPN

Has Steve Wulf been following this thread??

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Pete Rose is the 20th player to be inducted into this HOF and the previous one. He gets in as a much younger man as the additional parallel universe degree of separation has negated any retribution that might be had by the Selection Committee due to RL events.

Pete Rose Sr was chosen as the 8th overall pick in 2008 by the Mariners. In a career that spanned through the 2026 season, Rose collected 2765 hits (17th), 602 doubles (9th), and scored 1255 runs (71st) while slashing 304/373/437 (npa OPS+ 122).

Rose only appeared in one post season. His 2023 Braves lost in the LCS to the Padres (Steve Garvey chided him at the podium about that).

In 2014 Rose hit .347 to take home a batting crown. His npa OPS+ of 157 was the best of his career. Slashing 347/420/531 in Safeco is no easy feat, and his npa OPS+ is certainly undervalued for that, and the 7 other seasons he played as a Mariner.

7 times Rose hit over .300. at age 36 and 37 he hit .299 and .293, respectively.

Rose played in 4 ASGs and won one GG as an OFer.

Rose enters by virtue of his HOFs number being above the Hall average.

Black Ink: 12 (64)
Gray Ink: 76 (239)
HOFm: 96.5 (311)
HOFs: 52 (55)

Gorilla Composite: 2.7 (7.2)
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Class of 2034 (1962): Lennox, Cravath, Sweeney

All three entrants get in on the First Ballot Standard. McCovey's entry, on it's own, raised the GC of the Hall from 3.6 to 3.7. After last year's class being clode to the GC, this class raises the GC to 3.8 for the Hall.

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Ed Lennox was the taken by the Braves as the 5th player drafted in the 2006 draft. He retired after the 2028 season and enter the Hall in his first year of eligibility.

Lennox broke into the league, in 2007, by batting .295, swatting 44 HRs, driving in 124 and winning the ROY with a npa OPS+ of 157. For good measure, he stole 37 bases, also.

His sophomore season of 2008, he had the finest year of his career. He won his first of two consecutive MVP awards this season.

All three of his slash numbers were career highs: 341/439/748 which gave him a Ruthian (or, in this league, a McCoveyian) npa OPS+ of 211. He posted career highs in hits (212), HR (68), RBI (157), R (151), BB (107), and 3B (7).

He followed up that with an MVP winning .336, 42 HR, 105 RBI, npa OPS+ 189 2009 campaign.

Lennox played in 4 post seasons. He appeared in his only WS as an Oriole in 2021, and lost. He left for the Angels as a FA that off season. In 2022 his Angels were eliminated in the LDS by the eventual champions....the Orioles.

Lennox is the veteran of vetrans. He played in 3003 ML games, the most in history.

In those games he slashed 295/391/550 for an npa OPS+ of 154. He collected 3210 hits ( 7th...10 behind Gary Sheffield, and 2 ahead of Willie McCovey), 752 doubles (3rd), 627 HR (11th), 1961 RBI (4th), 1984 R (3rd), and 424 SB (tied for 41st with an active player). He was also hit by 107 pitches. His 1673 walks are the third most in league history.

Ed Lennox was named to 10 AS Teams.

Black Ink: 19
Gray Ink: 182
HOFm: 282.5
HOFs: 84

Gorilla Composite: 5.5

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Gavvy Cravath was taken with the first pick overall in 2012, by the Indians....what a shock that Cleveland had the number one pick (note: I do not allow for the trading of draft picks...The Indians got the pick by finishing last in 2011).

Like Classmate Ed Lennox, Cracath gets into the Hall the first year he is eligible. Like Lennox, he also won 2 MVPs in consecutive seasons. Like Lennox he appeared in 10 ASGs. Unlike Lennox, he appeared in an 11th.

Following the 2018 season he was selected by the Jacksonville Tribunes in the Expansion Draft. He led the Tribunes to the LCS (where they fell to eventual Champions, and fellow expansion club, the Dallas Burn.

2019 was the first of Cravath's consecutive MVPs. It started a 3 year run where he hit over .300, had an OBP over .400, a slg% over .700, and a npa OPS+ over 200 in each season.

I guess the voters were tired of voting for him, in 2021, as that was his best season from an OPS+ standpoint. The winner had lesser numbers, and neither of them made the play-offs. But Cravath only got 2 NVPs.

That 2021 season, he had career bests in ave and OBP as he slashed 333/432/753 (npa OPS+ 218). His 58 HRs in 2021 followed seasons of 77 and 65.

In 2028 he signed a 1 year deal with the Braves. This would be the last contract he signed. He had 25 AB, hit .160, and had 1 HR. This HR put his career total at 666. This proved, to many that it is actually Ted Turner, not George Steinbrenner, who is Satan.

Cravath 2242 hits (78th), 469 doubles(46th), 1713 RBI (20th, one behind Albert Belle), and 1530 runs scored (21st). He ranks 7th on the All-Time HR list.

He has a career npa OPS+ of 164.

He appeared in 4 post seasons, one WS, but did not get a ring.

Black Ink: 29 (46)
Gray Ink: 166 (110)
HOFm: 252 (50)
HOFs: 65 (23)

Gorilla Composite: 5.2 (3.3)

Using the Standard Standard and applying it to RL numbers, Gavvy Cravath should be in the RL HOF.

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Bill J Sweeney was the selected by the Devil Rays with the second pick over all in the 2005 draft. He played with them through the 2020 seasons. He made 2 year stops in Cincy and ATL before he retired in 2024.

Sweeney won 258 games (7th), in his career, vs 178 losses. His 3.02 OOTP ERA translates to a remarkable career npa ERA+ of 150. In 4014 IP (7th), he struck out 4491 (3rd) while walking 899.

A 9 time All Star, Sweeney won the CYA in 2007 and 2009. He was a combined 40-18 with 628 strikeouts in these seasons and had a combined npa ERA+ of 159. Yep, his career ERA+ was better than what he had in his 2 CYA seasons....

Sweeney pitched in 3 post seasons, but never reached the WS. His post season record is 3-3, but in 7 appearances, all starts, he struck out 60 men in 47 1/3 IP.

His career WHIP is 1.037. That is 4th best in league history. No eligible player with a better a WHIP has not been inducted.

He struck out 300 men 3 times in a season. His 19 career shutouts is tied for 29th most in history. Only 6 pitchers who started their careers after 1979 have more career shutouts.

Sweeney, though not inducted in his first year of eligibility, gets in on the first ballot standard.

Black Ink: 57
Gray Ink: 303
HOFm: 196.5
HOFs: 57

Gorilla Composite: 5.2
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Class of 2035 (1963), Pitchers: Salisbury, Wood

Harry Salisbury established himself as a dominant pitcher of his era and into the discussion of best pitchers, ever.

Salisbury was picked by the Braves as the 5th player overall in the 2009 draft. He had a fine rookie season by posting 10 wins vs 12 losses on a team that won only 65.

He suffered a bit of s sophomore slump as his ERA+ fell from 131 to 108, but in 2012 he established himself as a force. That season he went 19-8 with an OOTP ERA of 2.38, which was good for a npa ERA+ of 176 and his first of 6 (yes, SIX) Cy Young Awards.

Iin consecutive seasons from 2014 through 2016. He won 58 games, dropped 20, and struck out over 900 batters. He won the CYA twice in this time frame.

In 2016 he had, perhaps, the finest season of the 21st Century. He won 26 games (losing only 5) and carried an OOTP ERA of 1.68 for a npa ERA+ of 248. His WHIP for that season was 0.88.

In 2018, he was 27-2. That 0.931 win% is second best for a season (Matt Kilroy 0.9375, 1974) abd won his 4th CYA. The Braves left him and his 3 remaing years of a 6 yr $104M contract available for the expansion draft. The Dalls Burn said, "Thank You!" as he won his 4th CYA and the first of 2 WS with Dallas.

In the Burn's 2 Championship seasons, Salisbury was 9-2 with an OOTP ERA around 2.00 in the post season. HOFer Steve Garvey also played on those Dallas WS teams. Like Garvey, Salisbury was named to 10 AS teams.

For his career, Salisbury had 248 wins (11th) and 126 losses when he called it quits in 2024. His career OOTP ERA of 2.779 is 4th best, ever. No eligible player with a better career ERA is not already in the HOF. His career mpa ERA+ is an astounding 159. He struck out 3630 batters (9th) while walking only 816. There is no eligible player with more strikeouts that is not in the HOF.

Salisbury, though not in his first year of eligibility, enters on the First Ballot Standard. Salisbury has the highest HOFm, HOFs, and GC scores of any HOF pitcher.

Black Ink: 63
Gray Ink: 250
HOFm: 248.8
HOFs: 63

Gorilla Composite: 5.5

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Smokey Joe Wood was drafted by the Yankees with the 4th overall pick in 2006. He did not sign with them. In 2007 the Orioles used their second overall pick to draft him, and he went to play in Baltimore.

Wood pitched through the 2017 season, but continued to play as a corner OFer through 2023. He played more games in the OF than he pitched, so he did receive HOFs points as a LFer, but it is for his pitching, and pitching alone, that he is in the HOF.

Wood was dominant as a pitcher. He won three consecutive CYA in 2010-2012. In 2012 he won the pitching Triple Crown as he posted a 24-4 record with an OOTP ERA of 1.69 (npa ERA+ 258) as he struck out 319 men in 261 1/3 IP.

His career 161-80 record gives him a .671 career win %, second best all time. The leader is currently active, so Wood may wind up at the top of that list.

Wood carried a 3.24 OOTP ERA for his career. His npa ERA+ is 143. In 1950 career IP, he struck out 2305 men. He ranks 41st on the all time K/9 list with a rate of 9.231. The 9.364 rate of fellow classmate Harry Salisbury is 40th best.

Neither as a pitcher or position player, did Wood ever appear in a WS. Wood was a 5 time All Star and twice won the P GG.

Wood enters the Hall on the basis of his Black Ink being above the Hall average.

Using the Standard Standard and applying it to the RL HOF, Wood should be a RL HOFer.

Black Ink: 50 (17)
Gray Ink: 133 (106)
HOFm: 136 (68)
HOFs: 47 (49)

Gorilla Composite: 3.6 (2.3)

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Class of 2035 (1963), Hitters: Sisler, Cobb

Both entrants are RL HOFers who were inducted into the previous HOF. We now have 23 players that have been inducted into both OOTP HOFs, we have 18 RL HOFers inducted into this one, and 6 RL HOFers that have been inducted into both OOTP HOFs.

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George Sisler was selected with the 9th pick overall by the Brewers in 2011. He chose not to sign with them and agreed to terms with the Cubs, who used the 5th pick in 2012 to select him.

In 2015 he won the WS with the Cubs....and could stop here, because that really is enough to get into the HOF.....

Sisler had a career BA of .343. That is 5th All-Time. No eligible player who has a higher BA is not in the HOF. Sisler is also 41st on the All-Time SB list, with 425.

In 2016, he had an absolutely incredible year. He batted what is still a league record .421 and collected what is still a league record 283 hits. He also hit 41 HRs which made him the first player in the league to hit over .400 and have over 40 HRs. He also ripped a career high 54 doubles as he brought home his one career MVP. He slashed 421/470/707 for a npa OPS+ of 218.

As in RL (and in the previous OOTP league) Sisler began his career as an all world player, then injuries hit and he became mortal. In his first 8 seasons, he never hit bellow .337. 6 times in those 8 seasons he had over 200 hits. He also never stole fewer than 36 bases in any of those seasons.

He was drafted by Dallas in the expansion draft of 2018. In 2019 he was on their historic back-to-back WS winning teams in their first two seasons as a franchise. Steve Garvey and Harry Salisbury are fellow HOFers who were also on those teams. Sisler also won the 2028 WS as a member of the Cardinals. No other player on either the Cub or Cardinal WS winners have been inducted into the HOF, yet.

In 80 post season games, Sisler slashed 356/410/526.

For his career, Sisler appeared in 7 ASGs and collected 2342 hits (61st). He had a career slash line of 343/392/525 for a npa OPS+ of 151.

Sisler enters in his first year of eligibility on the First Ballot Standard.

Black Ink: 40 (29)
Gray Ink: 149 (198)
HOFm: 225 (200)
HOFs: 51 (44)

Gorilla Composite: 5.0 (4.6)

ADD: Sisler has the longest hitting streak in League History, 45 games.

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Ty Cobb enters the HOF as the All-Time leader in hits with 3600, on the nose.

He is currently ranked 3rd All-Time in career batting average with a mark of .3608. Two active players are ahead of him.

Cobb was the first player selected in the 2005 draft. He signed with the Brewers, the same team Sisler opted to say "No" to. Cobb and Sisler on the same team would have been ridiculous. And Cobb could have used him, because he never saw a WS.

Cobb, as expected, had an amazing career. Not only is he the All Time hit leader, he is also 4th on the All Time SB list with 817.

He hit what would be his career average in his rookie season, a .361 mark. 228 hits at that clip earned him ROY honors.

He won his first of 5 MVPs in 2010 when he hit .398 with 61 HRs and 52 SBs. He slashed 398/462/750 for a npa OPS+ of 223. The most HRs he hit in any other season is 31.

8 times Cobb had 200 hits in a season. 3 times he had over 250. 11 times he had 50, or more, SBs. 3 times he hit over .400.

For his career, he had 344 HRs, 756 doubles (2nd), 74 triples (t- 39th), 1622 RBI (24th), and 1918 runs scored (5th). His slash line of 361/426/555 gave him an elite HOF npa OPS+ of 167.

Cobb enters the HOF in his first year of eligibility on the First Ballot Standard.

Black Ink: 77 (154)
Gray Ink: 218 (417)
HOFm: 442 (445)
HOFs: 77 (75)

Gorilla Composite: 8.9 (13.1)

ADD: Cobb won 9 batting titles, including 6 straight from 2008-2013. He was sidelined by injury in 2007. Had he won the batting race that year, he would have had 8 straight going back to his rookie 2006 season. He led the league in SB 5 times.

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In league news, the Diamondbacks have moved to Austin and the Reds have moved to Denver.

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The next class is a large one, so it may be a day or so before I complete it. Starting with the McCovey induction, 8 of the last 10 entrants have been on the first ballot. Collectively they have raised the GC average for the entire Hall from 3.6 to 3.9. I didn't think this increase would happen as quickly as it did.

This illustrates the "self-correcting" aspect of this model. Lower scoring entrants bring down the standards which make it easier for FB entrants which raise the standards back up. If the HOF gets populated with a lot of monster careers early, then the dynamics call for leaderboard entrants who, generally, bring down the numeric standards making it easier for FB entrants, who raise the standards..and so on and so on.

I described in the previous thread the idea of each entry plot having "gravity." The more plots that are lower, the more they pull in lower scores. The recent clump of entrants gives a visual that one can imagine as representing the idea that with these players entering at higher levels, they will cause the selection of future entrants to be higher. If the standards get too high, we will see floor breakers which will place lower and by their entrance in the HOF, make for entrants that are comparable to their own careers.
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Class of 2036 (1964), Hitters: Oliver, Hernandez, Chance

"Oliver, Hernandez to Chance"....it kinda works....

I spent about an hour, off and on, putting this post together. I forgot to save it and when I tried to back up to the post, my text was gone. That I didn't destroy anything of value is a testament to my self-control, today.

I will compress my thoughts and post the the numbers. As much as I do like giving flowing narratives, I have a goal of getting to 2085 before the release of OOTP 14, so I will be cutting down on the chit chat parts. I will miss that, but the more nuanced (and inane) observations will return in '14, when the algorithm for selecting players that isn't chained to the RL history is introduced. This is the final element I need to test (after this league is completed, but I like everything that is going on here) before I can say "Yeah, this will work for any and all league constructs."

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Al Oliver: Had "very low" work ethic, but won 3 MVPs and enters on first ballot standard with a career superior to RL. So much for using that as make or break scouting criteria.

Keith Hernandez: Better career totals than Oliver, but inducted 15 years after retirement. 0 MVPs, 5 GG, 10 AS games. 24th player inducted into both OOTP HOFs.

Frank Chance: Team player....353 HBP, 53 HBP in one season. Enters in his first year getting Veteran Standard consideration. 19th RL HOFer inducted, here.

None of these players won a WS.

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Al Oliver (2013-2030)

2804 hits (16th)
639 doubles (8th)
61 triples (84th)
394 HR (t-74th, Vada Pinson)
1446 RBI (45th)
1292 R (64th)
332/379/562 (8th/*/32nd)
npa OPS+ 155


Black Ink: 26 (16)
Gray Ink: 141 (127)
HOFm: 221 (116)
HOFs: 65 (40)

Gorilla Composite: 4.7 (3.0)

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Keith Hernandez (2003-2021)

3006 hits (12th)
699 doubles (5th)
65 triples (72nd)
397 HRs (71st)
1560 RBI (30th)
1637 runs (11th)
1381 walks (16th)
312/399/521 (25th/28th/96th)
npa OPS+ 150

Black Ink: 10 (14)
Gray Ink: 204 (118)
HOFm: 222 (86)
HOF: 63 (32)

Gorilla Composite: 4.5 (2.5)

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Frank Chance (1995-2013)

2440 hits (44th)
561 doubles (21st)
1484 runs (28th)
819 SB (3rd)
292/395/412 (*/35th/*)
npa OPS+ 119

Black Ink: 11 (7)
Gray Ink: 68 (73)
HOFm: 87 (22)
HOFs: 43 (24)

Gorilla Composite: 2.3 (1.4)

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Class of 2036 (1964), Pitchers: Mussina, Kile, Schilling

If I don't finish this HOF by the time OOTP 14 comes out, oh well. I'm not getting paid for this, and part of the fun for me is doing the write ups. So, since I am getting paid in fun only, I am not going to cut my wages.

It is cool that three pitchers that were RL contemporaries join the HOF together. It is also cool to note that all of them get in on the Veteran Standard.

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Mike Mussina was taken with the 4th overall pick by the Royals in 1982. As a rookie in 1983 he no hit the Angels, surrendering just one walk and striking out 7. He finished his rookie campaign with a 15-11 record and an OOTP ERA of 3.53 (npa ERA+ 116).

Not known as a strikeout pitcher, Mussina did rack up 2520 Ks (70th) in his career that spanned through the 2002 season. In 3267 IP (62nd), he was the devil on hitters as he surrendered only 666 walks.

Mussina won 20 games 4 times, but he never won a CYA. He posted a career mark of 235 (16th) -135 and an OOTP ERA of 3.23 (35th) for an excellent npa ERA+ of 135. His .6351 win % is 12th best in league history.

He appeared in 8 post seasons, 2 WS, but came up short on capturing a championship. Mussina was a 6 time All Star.

Black Ink: 14 (15)
Gray Ink: 175 (250)
HOFm: 115.9 (121)
HOFs: 52 (54)

Gorilla Composite: 2.9 (3.4)

Using this Hall's Standards as applied to RL stats, Mike Mussina should be inducted into the RL HOF.

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Darryl Kile's induction is a bitter sweet one, for me. I thank Jordan for his comment in the previous thread that made me look upon Kile's induction as something other than sad.

It is sadly ironic (and gives me a pained smile, at the same time) that Kile enters this HOF as the oldest pitcher to be inducted, at age 82.

Darryl Kile was selected by the Twins in 1974 with the 8th pick overall. Like Mussina, he won 20 games 4 times in his career before retiring after the 1991 season. In his rookie season of 1975, quality pitchers were few, and those that were in the league dominated. Kile was one of those as he struck out 396 (7th) batters while walking 89 and posting a 22-14 record.

He had his best season in 1977 when he won 30 games (2nd, 1 of 4 pitchers to win 30) and lost 8. He struck out 332 men and posted an OOTP ERA of 2.62 (npa ERA+ 173).

He won 228 (19th) games vs 180 losses and had a career OOTP ERA of 3.46 (npa ERA+ 117) which ranks him 78th, in that category. He struck out 2995 batters (32nd), threw 142 CGs (10th), of which 24 were shutouts (t-16th).

In 1984, pitching for the Phillies, he tossed a 6 hit shutout in the LCS. The Phillies lost the series to Houston. This was his only career post season appearance.

Kile was an All Star 4 times.

Kile is the 25th player to be named to both OOTP HOFs.

Black Ink: 14 (1)
Gray Ink: 129 (82)
HOFm: 95 (31)
HOFs: 41 (12)

Gorilla Composite: 2.4 (0.9)

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If there is one player that I have been tempted to show favoritism towards, more than anyone else, it would have to be fellow OOTP addict Curt Schilling. He was screened the same season that Bob Horner entered this Hall. I thought it would be super cool if they went in together because the absolute best baseball story I have read on these boards was Curt's reminiscence of Spring Training with Mssr Horner.

I don't have the post handy, but someone can feel free to post a link to it, here, if they have it.

As tempted as I was, I let the process just work itself out. At the age of 61, Curt Schilling joins this HOF.

Schilling was selected in the 1994 draft by the Dodgers at the age of 19. In his first 3 seasons he made 74 appearances, 53 of them in relief.

In 1998 he became a full time starter. Over the next 4 seasons he put up very good stat geek numbers (npa ERA+ between 127-186 each season, K/W > 3 each season) but was one game below .500 in that stretch. Perhaps the Dodgers being 90 games under .500 had something to do with it.

Seeking to join a contender, Schilling left as a Free Agent and joined the Royals in 2002 (yes, this is quite the alternative reality). In 2002 he made his first of 4 ASGs and posted a 16-6 record with an OOTP ERA of 3.47 (npa ERA+ 127). In 233 2/3 IP, he struck out 254 men. After his playing days, Curt Schilling would make the astute public declaration on a gaming message board that "walks suck." In 2002, he walked only 47 for a K/W rate better than 5.

The Royals team he joined had Inaugural Class HOFer George Davies as a 37 year-old veteran. It also boasted future HOFers Duke Snider and Jimmy Walsh. Add the newest HOF inductee to that group, and it is no surprise that the Royals won the World Series in 2002, defeating the Brewers 4 games to 2. To get to the WS, the Royals had to knock off the Red Sox in the LCS.

In 2003, Curt had his best season to date, at least in the eyes of the writers, as he won 20 games for the first time in his career and also struck out 300 for the first time. The writers thought that was worth a CYA. The Royals lost the WS in 6 games to the Mets. Wait till next year....

2004 was Schilling's finest season, as he won a 2nd straight CYA, led the Royals to their 3rd straight WS, and helped them win their second title in three years.

Schilling won a career high 23 games vs 7 losses. His OOTP ERA of 2.48 was his lowest career mark and the 182 npa ERA+ was his career best. He pitched 261 innings, surrendered just 195 hits and 53 walks (WHIP = 0.95) and struck out 275.

George Davies and Jimmy Walsh were still with the team for this title run.

For his career, Schilling won 222 games (t-22nd, Matt Kilroy) and lost 179. His OOTP ERA of 3.52 (95th) works out to an excellent HOF npa ERA+ of 131. He struck out 3443 (17th, one fewer than Justin Verlander) batters while walking 911.

Schilling appeared in 4 ASGs. He has one career save to his credit. He retired following the 2015 season.

In 17 career post season starts, Schilling posted an 8-3 record.

Black Ink: 30 (42)
Gray Ink: 170 (205)
HOFm: 132.3 (171)
HOFs: 42 (46)

Gorilla Composite: 3.2 (4.0)

Like Mussina, Schilling should be inducted into the RL HOF on the basis of the model in work for this HOF when applied to RL records.

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Chart and Thoughts

With 4 of the 6 inductees from the latest class entering on the Veteran Standard, we see how the floor is intact just above the 2 line.

The mean GC is still 3.9. The median score is a 3.6 between Albert Belle and Smokey Joe Wood.

The standard deviation for the GC is now 1.5.

Baseball talent is not distributed in a Bell Curve format (as is often misrepresented as being the case in various forum posts). It is more like an inverse Bell Curve with a long tail on the right hand side (more players with talent greater than the norm and to a greater degree than players with talent below the norm, and those players distance from the norm being to a lesser degree).

The norm for GC of these HOF inductees (Using 1 standard deviation from the mean as the definition of "normal") is between 2.1 and 5.1. There are 2 players that are outside of this norm on the low end (RPs O'Neil and Serrano) and 12 above the norm.

The lowest plot is 0.3 points outside of the 1 StDev window. The highest plot is 5.7 points outside the 1 StDev window. This is a greater distance outside the "normal window" by a factor of 19, and this is expected to be the case because HOF scores, like the baseball talent they represent, are not distributed in a Bell Curve distribution. And the talent of players generated by OOTP when using either a historic or fictional model are correctly not Bell shaped.

The plots from left to right represent each inductee in the order he was inducted. Those that were inducted in the same year are plotted in the same order they get listed in the thread. On this chart, the plot furthest to the right represents Curt Schilling.



ADD: I was working multiple thoughts in my head, and what I typed was in error. Not to get into the weeds, too much, but when a distribution's median is not its mean, it is not a normal distribution. This is by definition. There is a calculation for median standard deviation which is different from mean standard deviation. I did not use this to illustrate my point. Instead, I shifted the range of 1 standard deviation from the mean, plus and minus (so actually 2 StDevs) to be centered upon the median in order to illustrate the frequency and degree to which the plots are heavy to the left of the mean and long tailed to the right of the mean. If I had simply typed the word "median" instead of "mean" at my edit point, to begin with, this explanation of correction would be unneeded and I would not have failed in my attempt to be both accurate and concise in my numerical musing.

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I read your post on Jesse Burkett. He resembled the player that lead my Athletics to two WS in 1893 and 1899. He played for that team from 1890 to 1904. He won Outstanding Bating Title once in 1896, 10 All Star selections and won 11 gold gloves. He appearred in Post Season 7 time with 6 with the Athletics and once with the Brooklyn Superbas at the age of 40.

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Class of 2037 (1965): Johnson

The National League has added the DH. Armageddon cannot come swiftly enough.

Re Burkett: Unless he gets hit with a CEI, my experience with Burkett is that he produces very much along the lines of Scott's JB. Here, he did not have that type of career, but managed to sneak into the HOF, anyway, on cumulative numbers. That he gave me the opportunity to make a Joan Baez reference (and it is only now I notice the shared initials...lol) is doubly cool.

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Walter Johnson enters as the single greatest pitcher in league history, without question.

He is the all time leader in wins (and, at the time of his entry, the only 300 game winner) with 314. He is also the career leader in strike outs with 5539. No other player has 5000 Ks. No active pitcher is within 2400 Ks of his career mark.

He is also the career leader in GS (691), IP (4843 2/3), VORP and WAR.

Johnson is the 26th player named to the previous HOF and this one. He is the 20th RL HOFer to join this shrine, and the 7th player to be inducted into all three.

When summarizing a player's career when it is like the one Johnson had, the details can be overwhelming. In short, he ruled.

Drafted by the Cardinals with the first pick overall in the 2007 draft, he defined the "no-brainer" draft choice.

4 CYAs
4 20 win seasons
6 300 K seasons
8 AS teams
5 time league leader in Wins
4 time league leader in Ks
3 time league leader in ERA

In his 24 seasons he posted a record of 314-199 before retiring in 2031. His OOTP ERA of 3.14 for his career ranks him 25th. His npa ERA+ for 24 freaking seasons is a 137.

Johnson pitched for the Cardinals through the 2028 season. In 2027, at the age of 37, he took the hill 34 times, won 13 games, and led the youngsters in St Louis by his example to a WS win. No other player from that squad has been inducted to the HOF. In 2028, he gritted through another campaign and again brought WS joy to to St Louis, this time George Sisler had joined the club.

On both of those WS squads was OOTP Forum favorite Freddie Manrique. Inexplicably, following the 2028 season, the Cardinals let both Johnson AND Manrique leaves a Free Agents. What happened to the Cards? They won a 3rd straight WS.....

In 2020, Johnson had his best season as he went 21-6, struck out 299 men, and posted an OOTP ERA of 1.96 (npa ERA+ 218) and won the third of his 4 CYAs.

Johnson enters on the First Ballot Standard in his first year of eligibility.

Black Ink: 75 (150)
Gray Ink: 339 (420)
HOFm: 248.8 (364)
HOFs: 60 (83)

Gorilla Composite: 6.1 (9.5)

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Walter Johnson went and went and went and went in my league.

4 Cy Youngs
49 shut outs
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Class of 2038 (1966): Kiner

This may be the single most interesting inductee I have done.

I had 5 FBS candidates, and I figured one of them would get in on the FBS. It didn't happen. They will all get in, in time, but not on the First Ballot Standard.

Ralph Kiner had a short wait. He retired in 2028 and became eligible in 2034. I thought he might have been a First Balloter, but he didn't make it.

He is easily deserving with his 541 HRs. The extraordinary part of this starts with the fact that he played in only 14 seasons, having been picked 9th by the Phillies in 2014, and having only 6006 ABs. That's a career AB/HR rate of 11.1.

It gets better as Kiner is the only player in league history to hit OVER 70 HRs a season three different times. He led the league 3 times in HRs (and RBI) and it was each of those three seasons (for both). He hit 82/163, 78/179, and 71/165 HR/RBI in those seasons. He is one of 5 players to hit 80, or more HRs in a season, and the second to be inducted. His 82 is the fourth highest total in league history. Willie McCovey's 89 and 83 are the top 2. McCovey also hit 70, but Kiner is the only player to hit OVER 70 three times.

Kiner hit his 82 in 2017, but did not win league MVP. Ty Cobb's .417 BA took home the hardware. 2017 was the first of three consecutive seasons Kiner had a npa OPS+ over 200.

This is what I found fascinating: In 2018 Kiner smacked 42 HRs in 138 games...injured...I THOUGHT. Nope...no injuries...42 HRs in 293 ABs...less than 7 ABs per HR, and he was having trouble getting playing time!

In 2017 he played the most games of any Phillie in LF AND CF. In 2018, he did not play the most games at ANY position for the Phillies! He had played 1B previously, then Sean Casey took that job and Kiner went to the OF. Casey had a good season, but he didn't have a 200 OPS+....neither did Tito Francona who took most games in LF.

Kiner found himself the odd man out as a poor fielder on a non DH team.

The Phillies dealt Casey that off-season and Kiner moved to first and in 2019 had his 78 HR season, and this time won the MVP, but it was his only trophy, of that type.

His contact rating had dropped according to OSA in 2018, and maybe the team was slanted to heavily favor BA, I don't know, but Kiner was a monster in his prime and the Phillies limited his playing time. Maybe that's why they finished 24 games back (but in second place!).

For his career he slashed 270/364/578 for a manly npa OPS+ of 157. Sure he played in CB Park, but he was mashing like few ever mashed.

His 541 HRs or 28th best All Time. He is two ahead of Fred McGriff, who played 18 years. He is three ahead of Yaz, who played 22 seasons.

His 1271 RBI ranks him 86th, one behind Buck Ewing who played 17 seasons.

I do love the Gorilla Composite that has come from this exercise, but Kiner's entry is in stark contrast to Jesse Burkett's (previously discussed) and both are completely legitimate. There is no one standard for the RL HOF and there isn't a particular type of player that gets in on the basis of singular criteria or even a composite score.

I am really really liking how this model is working. So what if Kiner had only 1621 hits (a number that exceeds his strikeouts by only 64 which means he did strikeout once every 4 ABs)? He deserves to be in the Hall. And in keeping with RL tradition, he did not get in on the First Ballot. That players have criteria that is set by their peers, not by the user, per se, for entry into the HOF and that entry is more than just a one time check for stats breaking a threshold makes for a very pleasing Hall process.

Kiner enters by virtue of his Black Ink number exceeding the Hall average (just as he would have in RL if this method was used...oh, the irony).

Kiner is the 21st RL HOFer to join the newly remodeled tractor shed.

Black Ink: 36 (52)
Gray Ink: 95 (145)
HOFm: 156.5 (136)
HOFs: 36 (34)

Gorilla Composite: 3.8 (4.5)
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Class of 2039 (1967): Pujols, Tannehill

A few players I thought would get in are probably not getting in. And when I say "probably" I mean that I am 95% sure that none of them will get in, but freak things do happen. All of this is by the numbers, but that is boring, so I speculate for fun:

A player with 261 Wins will probably not get in because he threw a World Series.

A player with nearly 200 wins and 2 CYAs will probably not get in because he was caught with sand paper in his glove.

A player with over 500 HRs will probably not get in because he voted for Mitt Romney.

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Albert Pujols gets into the HOF in his first year of eligibility on the First Ballot Standard. Pujols was the first pick in the 2010 draft. Selected by the Red Sox, he proved to be the no-brainer selection the scouts had him to be. He won ROY, MVP, and a GG at 3B in 2011. The MVP voting was a no brainer....Pujols hit .354, 60 HRs on 230 hits, and drove in 157 as he posted a npa OPS+ of 198.

He suffered a bit of a sophomore jinx in 2012 as he found himself missing a moth with a broken foot and another moth with an ab strain. However, he was healthy for the post season and led the Red Sox to the WS title. Pujols is the first player from this team to join the HOF.

In 2018 he won his second MVP as he posted career highs in hits (232), HRs (63), RBI (178), and Runs (152). Each component of his 364/440/721 line was also a career high, as was his npa OPS+ of 212.

The Red Sox did not protect him in the expansion draft, and Pujols became a Jacksonville Tribune. He played in Jax through 2026 before leaving as a Free Agent to join the Mets for the 2027 season. In 2027, he won his third of three MVPs.

Pujols played his last ML game in 2031. He collected 3336 career hits (2nd), 592 doubles (15th), 761 HRs (2nd), 2342 RBI (2nd), and scored 1952 runs (5th). He is 5th in GP, 4th in AB, 4th in VORP and 3rd in WAR for his career.

His career slash line of 308/380/573 (38th/*/27th) gives him a studly 157 career npa OPS+.

Pujols appeared in 12 ASGs and won two additional GGs at 1B following his rookie season.

ADD: Pujols won 3 batting titles in his career.

Black Ink: 51
Gray Ink: 229
HOFm: 376.5
HOFs: 71

Gorilla Composite: 7.4

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Jesse Tannehill was the third player selected in the 2012 draft. Taken by the Tigers, he pitched for them through the 2018 season. He was left unprotected in the expansion draft, and he, along with fellow classmate Albert Pujols, joined the Jacksonville Tribunes.

He pitched only one season there, but it was his finest. He was 24-2 with an OOTP ERA of 2.57 (npa ERA+ 175) in 2019. Amazingly, this was not good enough to wrest the CYA from HOFer Harry Salisbury.

He joined the Pirates, went 18-7 in 2020, but still did not receive CY hardware.

Undaunted, Tannehill kept doing what he was doing and was rewared with consecutive CYAs in 2021 and 2022. Though neither of the seasons compared to his season in Jacksonville, he was a combined 37-15 in these campaigns, and that was good enough to pull the repeater.

He won the 2017 WS with the Tigers. He is the first HOFer from this team, but will not be the last.

In 2018 he pitched a no-hitter.

In 2019 he struck out 11 in a Perfect Game.

In 2024, his skills were diminishing, but he was still able to contribute to a WS victory in Pittsburgh.

He never regained his previous form, but kept pitching ML ball through 2029.

When it was all said and done he had retired with a career record of 230-149. His 3.83 OOTP ERA gives him a career npa ERA+ of 118. He enters the HOF 18th on the career win list and 32nd on the win % list.

His 2673 puts him 10 ahead of HOF Ed Walsh for 58th career best.

Tannehill was a 4 time AS and won a GG.

He enters the HOF by virtue of his Gray Ink number being better than the Hall average.

Black Ink: 35 (4)
Gray Ink: 211 (144)
HOFm: 133.2 (92)
HOFs: 44 (42)

Gorilla Composite: 3.6 (2.2)

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Differing from the previous HOF, there are not a lot of pitchers waiting for a shot at induction. There are a fair number of hitters, but more hitters enter than pitchers, so I do not anticipate a huge back log like was seen in the previous league.

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Class of 2040 (1968): Mincher, Blauser, Berkman

This class surprised me in that I didn't get any of the recent FBS candidates in, this time. In fact, only Lance Berkman was a software inductee. I find this to be a very neat class.

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Don Mincher was selected by the tigers with the 17th pick overall in 1983. He played through the 1999 season, though he only had 6 AB from 1997 on.

Throwing out those last three "seasons", Mincher hit 490 HRs (41st) in 6457 ABs for a rate of 13.2 ABs per HR.

Mincher was an 8 time All Star and 3 times won a GG at 1B.

In the year of the "juiced ball", 1987, Mincher juiced a career high 60 balls out of the park while driving in 143 and slashing 301/392/658 for a npa OPS+ of 180. This was his third consecutive season with a npa OPS+ of 180, or better. It was only in 1987 that he won the MVP.

He becomes the 4th player to join the HOF that brought Detroit a WS trophy in 1991. He joins teammates Elmer Flick, Gary Sheffield, and Alex Serrano. Flick and Sheffield were in their primes, but it was Mincher who had the best season hitting a team high 50 HRs, driving in a career high 145, and slashing 320/400/658 for a career best npa OPS+ of 192.

281/368/566 is his career slash line. That gives him a studly HOF npa OPS+ of 156.

He collected a cool looking 1818 hits for his career. His 1323 RBI rank him 78th, 1 RBI behind HOFer Ed Bailey. His career slg% is 29th best, all time.

2 days after the first anniversary of his passing (though here, he is 78 years young), Mincher joins the Field of Dreams squad on the Veteran Standard. Welcome!

Black Ink: 13
Gray Ink: 122
HOFm: 135
HOFs: 38

Gorilla Composite: 3.0

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Jeff Blauser, at age 80, gets the call from the Hall. Blauser was selected 14th overall by the Cubs in 1979. Blauser played significant portions of his career at 2B, 3B and SS. His 1099 games at SS is the most at any of those positions, but because he split time in such a manner (his GP at 2B added to GP at 3B exceeds his GP at SS) he doesn't show up at the top of any position specific leader boards.

As a middle infielder, Blauser gets consideration on a different scale for his output than the players from traditionally offense oriented positions do.

Blauser collected 2347 hits (73rd) in his 21 year career that saw him last take a ML field in 2000. He hit 398 doubles and 252 HRs as he posted a career slash line of 263/345/416 for a npa OPS+ of 112.

His best season was in 1985 when he hit a career high 36 HRs in the Friendly Confines of Wrigley Field. He also posted a career high in RBI with 129 while slashing 289/364/505 (npa OPS+ 145, also a career high).

In 1991 he placed on waivers by the Pirates, and was appropriately claimed by the Braves. In 1992 he helped the Braves, along with HOFer Jim Whitney, to a WS win.

Blauser was named to 3 AS teams and won one GG at 2B.

Blauser enters on the Veteran Standard.

Black Ink: 11
Gray Ink: 92
HOFm: 83
HOFs: 43

Gorilla Composite: 2.5

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Lance Berkman was taken by the Washington Nationals with the 13th pick in the 2009 draft. He proved 12 teams wrong as he went out and won the ROY in 2010 by batting .311 with 38 HRs and 108 RBI and posting a npa OPS+ of 168. In each of Berkman's first 10 seasons he posted an OPS+ of 150, or better.

He left the Nats as a FA prior to the 2017 season to join the Royals. The Royals left him unprotected in the expansion draft and he was selected by the Dallas Burn and was a key player in their historic consecutive WS wins in their first two seasons of existence. He joins teammates Steve Garvey, Geroge Sisler and Harry Salisbury from those 2019 and 2020 Burn teams in the HOF. There will be more.

Berkman slashed a very pleasing, to the Jamesian observer, 289/391/533 for a npa OPS+ of 151.

Berkman had 487 HRs (42nd, 3 behind classmate Mincher) amongst his 2297 hits place him 88th on the All Time list. He has one hit more than HOFer Jimmy Walsh and 2 hits more than HOFer Elmer Flick.

Berkman had 437 doubles (83rd), 1488 RBI (46th, one more than HOF Adrian Gonzalez), scored 1386 runs (54th) and walked a lucky 1313 times (24th).

Berkman retired following the 2028 season having appeared in 6 AS games.

Berkman enters by virtue of his HOFs number being above the Hall average.

Black Ink: 7
Gray Ink: 103
HOFm: 113.5
HOFs: 56

Gorilla Composite: 2.9

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Class of 2041 (1969), Hitters: Robertson, Keller

Bob Robertson was chosen 6th overall in the 2008 draft by the Yankees. He broke into the big leagues as a 19 year old in 2009. In each of his first 19 seasons he hit at least 39 HRs. He also drove in at least 96 runs in each of his first 9 seasons.

He lost what would have been his 11th season in 2019. Robertson ruptured a tendon in his foot during spring training and missed the entire season.

He returned in 2020 to play 160 games and hit a career high 54 HRs.

Early in the 2021 season he suffered a strained oblique. He never regained his previous form after that injury.

In 2013 he led the Yankees in HR (51) and RBI (135) and led them to a WS win. HOFers Mel Ott and Jesse Burkett were also on that team. Together Robertson and Ott combined for 98 HRs and 262 RBI.

For his career, Robertson belted 521 HRs (33rd) that gave him a career 162 game rate of 42. His 1412 RBI ranks him 62nd, 1 RBI ahead of Dutch Zwilling.

A 264/349/535 line was good for a career npa OPS+ of 138.

Robertson enters by virtue of his Gray Ink number being above the Hall average.

Robertson appeared in 4 ASGs and walked exactly 900 times in his career.

Black Ink: 8
Gray Ink: 140
HOFm: 142
HOFs: 37

Gorilla Composite: 2.9

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Charlie Keller was the 5th player selected in the 2013 draft. He was chosen by the Tigers.

Keller played in the Majors through the 2033 season. He hit 542 career HRs to be ranked 29th on the All Time list, one HR ahead of HOFer Ralph Kiner.

A 6 time All Star, Keller was the offensive star on the 2017 WS Champion Tigers. He hit 42 HRs, drove in 120, and slashed 317/431/595 (npa OPS+ 178), leading his team in each category. HOF Jesse Tannehill was also on that winning squad.

Keller was another powerhouse that was taken by Dallas in the expansion draft of 2018 and is now in the HOF. He joins Lance Berkman, Steve Garvey, George Sisler and Harry Salisbury from their back to back WS winners of 2019 and 2020. 5 HOFers from those squads, and there will be more, I bet.

Keller had 2 seasons with a npa OPS+ of at least 200. But it was a mere 193 in 2027 that got him his MVP. Playing for the Edmonton Attackers (formerly the Toronto Blue Jays) Keller batted .314 with 43 HRs and 113 RBI to take the Barry Bonds Best Basher Brought to you By Balko Award....the MVP.

Keller had 2492 base hits(43rd), 1584 RBI (t-32nd, Ted Simmons), 1580 R (18th), and drew 1684 walks (2nd) in his career. His career slash line of 289/406/542 (*/13th/58th) gives him a npa OPS+ of 159.

Keller's numbers in all categories, save Black Ink, exceed the Hall average.

Black Ink: 13 (4)
Gray Ink: 147 (85)
HOFm: 178.5 (52)
HOFs: 59 (30)

Gorilla Composite: 3.9 (1.7)

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Class of 2041 (1969), Pitchers: Case, Koufax

Charlie Case, at the age of 87, becomes the oldest player to be inducted into the HOF.

A 10th overall pick, Case was selected by the Rangers in the 1973 amateur draft.

Debuting in 1974 when quality pitchers dominated hitters, Case was 28-5 with 344 Ks in 341 2/3 IP and posted an OOTP ERA of 1.32 (npa ERA+ 276). This performance did not garner him a CYA or ROY. His sophomore season he came out of the cute 13-1, but a wrist injury ended his season in June.

By 1980 the pitching talent had equalized, but Case was still dominant. He won his first of 2 CYAs by posting a 21-9 record with a 2.89 OOTP ERA pitching in his new home, the Kingdome.

In 1983, pitching for the Padres, he was 22-7 with a 2.12 OOTP ERA (npa ERA+ 180). Case had adjusted with age. No longer flaming batters, he struck out only 106 men in 272 IP. This was one more strikeout than he recorded in his 1980 CYA season.

For his career he was 176-102. His .635 win% is 15th highest in history. His career OOTP ERA of 2.96 makes for an outstanding 154 npa ERA+. In his first 3 (2 1/2, actually) he struck out 874 hitters. When he retired in 1989 his career total was 1399.

Though he only made 11 starts in 1977, Case contributed to the Rangers WS title effort. HOF James Shields anchored that rotation.

Case enters the HOF on the Veteran Standard.

Black Ink: 23
Gray Ink: 82
HOFm: 115
HOFs: 36

Gorilla Composite: 2.4

ADD: Case is 15th on the career ERA List.
ADD: Case holds the single season record for IP with 357 (1976).

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When he entered the draft in 1998, it was no surprise when the first team to pick, the Devil Rays, chose Sandy Koufax.

Koufax was not the dominant pitcher of his era, nor did he suffer a CEI at age 30, as he did in real life. Instead, he was a 3 time All-Star who picked up one CYA for a solid HOF career that culminated with an induction into the converted tractor shed on the Veteran Standard.

Koufax won 209 career games (4 way t-43, one more than HOF Ralph Branca, one fewer than HOFers HOFers Fergie Jenkins and Mike Moore) vs 167 losses. His 3677 strikeouts (in 3486 IP) rank him 9th on the career list. His career OOTP ERA of 3.50 give him a npa ERA+ of 131.

In 2005 his season, after tossing a no-hitter, was halved by an elbow injury. This was not an omen of impending injuries. Even though upon his return he was DLed with a shoulder issue in September. That Shoulder injury in 2005 would be the last injury of his career. A career that lasted through the 2019 season.

In 2006, and now a Washington National, he was healthy, rested, and ready to win the CYA. He posted a mark of 20-5 with an OOTP ERA of 1.90 (npa ERA+ 227) with 316 Ks in 232 2/3 innings of work. This was the only season that could be called a Koufaxian season.

Koufax took the Nats to the post season 5 times. In 13 starts he was 5-2 with an OOTP ERA below 3. He struck out 102 men in 85 1/3 IP. The Nats made it to one WS, but fell short in 2012. Koufax had a career post season WHIP of 0.95.

Koufax is a great example of how the player dev model and the recalc function mesh together. Because this is a HOF thread, players are written about here that come out of nowhere (in regards to their RL careers) and become HOFers. It takes a Koufax (or Babe Ruth) to see the pendulum swing the other way but still result in a HOF career.

Koufax is the 27th player to be inducted into this and the previous HOF, the 22nd RL player to be inducted here, and the 8th player to be enshrined in all three.

Black Ink: 18 (78)
Gray Ink: 149 (151)
HOFm: 106.5 (227)
HOFs: 40 (46)

Gorilla Composite: 2.6 (4.9)

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