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Old 07-12-2006, 12:41 AM   #81
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1911-Welterweights Part I

1911 WW Title Bouts

WBA Title Bouts

Jack Britton CH (23-3-1) vs Mysterious Billy Smith #14 (56-22)

Britton is heavily favored to repeat whis 1907 win against Smith, an aging vet who is still competitive though now at the tail-end of his career.

Britton piles up the early points lead by working on the outside. Smith, as always, is unpredictable, having a few good moments in rounds 4 and 5 but as the bout wears on, the aging Smith becomes visibly tired and an easy target for the younger Britton. The Boxing Marvel records a one-sided UD 15 win. This is probably the final title bout of Smith's lengthy career.

Jack Britton CH (24-3-1) vs Willie Lewis #5 (28-13)

Lewis earns the title shot based on recent wins over Gans and Summers. No prior meetings, and this is Lewis' second try for the WBA belt.

Both men start working outside, but Lewis gradually tries to be more aggressive even though penetrating Britton's defenses is a tough assignment indeed. After five fairly even rounds, the champ decides to be more aggressive -- Lewis clinches and tries to avoid the heavy leather, hanging on until he stuns the Champ with strong cross in the 10th. The bout goes down to the wire in the final rounds and Britton does just enough to keep the title. Britton by MD 15 (146-142, 144-144, 145-142).

Jack Britton CH (25-3-1) vs Dixie Kid #2 (37-10-2)

Britton defends against the USBA champ and ex-WBA champ, Kid, who is coming off a KO over Holberg after winning the USBA crown earlier in 1911. This is the 7th defense of the WBA belt by Britton, who has not lost since 1908 (to Joe Gans). Kid seeks revenge for a SD loss to Britton back in 1909.

Not much action in the first three rounds. In round four, Kid opens a cut above the left eyebrow of the Champ, and the following round Kid targets the patched-up tissue. Britton's jab keeps the Kid at bay, but in the 8th round the cut above Britton's eye is reopened and it gradually worsens, leading to a stoppage in the 10th. Dixie Kid by TKO 10 (cuts).

Dixie Kid CH (38-10-2) vs Joe Gans #17 (61-13)

Kid holds the 2-1 lifetime edge in a bout that may prove to be one last fling for "The Old Master," who is rumored to be contemplating retirement soon.

Gans does well to take the second round, but Kid works well from the outside to take the fourth. Gans tries to summon the old magic to go for a KO in the 6th, but Kid's defense is too strong. Gans, undaunted, continues to press forward, but Kid holds him off to take round 8. A desperation effort by Gans in the 9th finally pays off as a solid hook puts Kid to the canvas and Gans finishes the job later in the round. A huge upset as Gans regains the WW Title for the second time. Gans by KO 9.

NABF: Packey McFarland defended versus Mike Glover, winning the toe-to-toe exchanges early on to build a strong points lead which expanded as Glover tired in the later rounds. UD 12 win for McFarland by a wide margin. Next up for the unbeaten Packey was Honey Mellody, and although Mellody surprised McFarland in round four with a strong uppercut, the rest of the bout went McFarland's way for another UD 12 win. Later in the year, Willie Lewis challenged for the belt, but a big hook put Lewis on Queer street in the first, and it goes down as a TKO 1 win for McFarland.

USBA: Young Peter Jackson defended the title versus Kid, who proved too strong, fighting outside well to earn a points win. Kid by UD 12 (116-113 on all three cards). Kid vacated the title after winning the WBA belt, and it was Mike "Twin" Sullivan versus Kyle Whitney -- Whitney's first title shot of any kind. In a good action bout, Whitney staggered Sullivan in the sixth but then Whitney tired early, allowing Sullivan to take control in the later rounds, as a wobbly-legged Whitney tried to hand on. Sullivan takes the title by SD 12 (114-113, 113-114, 116-111).

CBU: Johnny Summers made two defenses, first versus Brit Arthur Evernden in an action-packed bout where Summers suffered a split lip but came back to land a titanic uppercut to put the challenger on his back. Summers by KO 2. Then it was an overmatched TC, Canadian Don ****ens, who was a TKO 5 victim.

GBU: Young Joseph did not defend the crown he won in 1910.

EBU: Instead, Joseph challenged Dane Waldemar Holberg for the European belt. After a slow start by both men, Holberg mixed it up well to take round 4 -- only to have Joseph come back with a strong round 5. A KD in the 7th secured the UD 12 win and the EBU title for Joseph.
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Old 07-12-2006, 01:15 AM   #82
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1911-Welterweights Part II

Anyone know how to get rid of the asterisks in the prior post? (first four letters of fighter's name that form a four-letter word).

Division Profile

Total Boxers: 86
Real-Life: 42
Tomato Can: 44

RL Boxers By Career Stage:
Beginner: 4 (3 New)
Pre: 12
Prime: 20
Post: 3
End: 3

Rated: 30
800+: 2
500+: 16
200+: 26

Jan 1912 Ratings List (Perf Pts and changes from 1911 in parens)

Champ: Joe Gans 62-13 (36) (773) (+16)
1. Packey McFarland 21-0-1 (14) (1071) (+1)
2. Jack Britton 25-4-1 (12) (1042) (-2)
3, Mike Glover 17-3-2 (7) (798) (+11)
4. Young Peter Jackson 47-11-3 (32) (789) (-3)
5. Dixie Kid 38-11-2 (18) (772) (-2)
6. Willie Lewis 29-15 (17) (753) (-1)
7. Mike Sullivan 30-12-4 (16) (725) (-3)
8. Honey Mellody 30-12-1 (9) (707) (NC)
9. Young Joseph 31-12-1 (13) (689) (+15)
10. Jimmy Gardner 28-9-3 (14) (676) (+1)

Comments: Gans pulls off the huge upset to rise from the ashes of the End career stage to take the top spot, but his is only the 5th highest PP total in the division, and he trails the unbeaten McFarland by almost 300 pp. Gans is at End career Stage, Jackson at Post, but all the others are at Prime. Don't expect Gans to hold the WBA belt much longer. McFarland recorded wins over W Lewis, Melloday and Glover, then travelled to London to defeat EBU champ, Joseph, and is riding high on a 10-bout win streak. Britton is looking to rebound after losing the title to Kid on a cuts stoppage. Glover has wins over Walcott, Jackson and CBU Champ Summers following his loss to McFarland. Young Peter Jackson's age is starting to show, as he managed a UD win over Hurley following losses to Glover and Kid. Willie Lewis' SD 10 win over Nelson kept him among the contenders. Mike Sullivan redeemed a poor year (loss to Joseph and a draw with Bartley Connolly) by winning the USBA belt over Kyle Whitney. Mellody followed up losses to McFarland and Joseph with wins over Jimmy Fryer and Harry Lewis. Young Joseph leapt back into the Top 10 on the strength of four wins in five bouts, losing only to McFarland while beating H Lewis, Holberg, Mellody and Sullivan. Gardner scored a TKO win over Gans but suffered a SD loss to Whitney early in the year.

Other Notables: CBU champ Johnny Summers dropped fro #7 last year to #12, and now has a 30-13-2 (16) mark with 658 pp, still within striking distance of the Top 10. Dane **** Nelson dropped two spots to #11 after a SD loss to Willie Lewis. His countryman, Waldemar Holberg, dropped all the way from #6 to #13 after setback losses to Kid and Young Joseph (for the EBU crown) despite wins over aging vets Smith and Matthews. Kyle Whitney is #14 after earning a shot at his first title belt. Aging vet Joe Walcott tumbles from #10 to #15 and is unlikely to return to the top group. (Didn't we say that about Gans last year?)

Prospects: Eddie Shevlin, 13-0 (8) is the top prospect, after racking up UD 10 wins over Connolly and fellow prospect Matt Wells. Wells is 12-1 (1) with Shevlin his only defeat, and he holds a UD 10 win over fellow Brit, Sid Burns. Willie Schaeffer has won four in a row and his record is now 10-0-1 (8). Ted Kid Lewis is 9-0-1 (6) after a draw with Johnny Basham. Not to be outdone, Albert Badoud of France has blasted out 9 TCs for a perfect 9-0 mark, all by KO. The aforementioned Basham stands at 8-0-1 (4).

Retirements: Late in the year, Mysterious Billy Smith, a fixture in the WW Division for over 20 years, hung up the gloves, His career marks:

1891-1911 57-25 (40) WBA Champ on three occasions

Smith went out on a high note with a KO 9 win over fellow vet Joe Walcott. Walcott, Gans and Matty Matthews are all at End career stage and likely to join Smith in retirement in 1912.

Looking Ahead: Irishman Tom McCormick heads the three newcomers to the division in 1912. Britton is set to challenge Gans for the WBA belt, and the fans eagerly await a Britton vs McFarland title contest.
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1911-Lightweights Part I

1911 LW Title Bouts

WBA Title Bouts

Jem Driscoll CH (39-6) vs Young Erne #6 (33-13-3)

Driscoll defends against USBA champ Erne, who he defeated in 1907. It's Erne's second WBA title shot, the last one coming back in 1903 when he lost to Gans.

Round 1 sees Driscoll cut in a bad spot just above the right eye. and there is hope for the underdog challenger in this one. Erne targets the cut, but he has trouble penetrating Peerless Jim's defenses. In round 4, the champ decides to mix it up on the inside and catches Erne with a good uppercut to win the round decisively. Round 5 sees both men on the outside, and a slight edge to Driscoll. In round 6, though, Erne reopens the cut on Driscoll's eye, and this time the bleeding causes the bout to be stopped. Young Erne by TKO 6 (cuts).

Young Erne CH (34-13-3) vs Lockport Jimmy Duffy #5 (18-0)

First meeting of the two -- some think the unbeaten youngster, Duffy, may be in over his head without any prior experience fighting for the lesser belts, but strong recent wins over Harlem Tommy Murphy and Young Donahue have led to this opportunity.

Not much action until round 3, when Duffy surprises the Champ with a strong combination but his corner must deal with a badly swollen left eye. Young Erne rebounds with a strong round 4, but Duffy moves adroitly to the outside to take round 5. Duffy keeps it close by moving inside to take round 7, and early in the 8th there is noticeable swelling below the left eye of the Champ. Duffy sustains a bloody nose in the action in round 9, and both men are visibly tired in round 10. The final rounds see Erne targeting Duffy's nose and swollen eye, and the strategy works, as Erne wins on a late round stoppage. Young Erne by TKO 14 (cuts).

Young Erne CH (35-13-3) vs Jack Blackburn #1 (41-5-1)

Young Erne puts it on the line against ex-Champ Blackburn, who holds the NABF belt and a 2-0 lifetime edge in prior bouts. Blackburn is also on an 8-bout win streak, and it's been two years since his last defeat.

Opening rounds are fairly even. In rounds 5-7, Young Erne tries to force the issue on the inside while Blackburn is content to stay at long range. Blackburn takes charge with a strong round 7 and follows up in the 8th. Young Erne, who is becoming fatigued, rallies with a strong 10th round. Blackburn retreats into a defensive shell in the later rounds and holds on to win a UD 15 win. Scorecards are 145-140, 144-143, 144-141 and Jack Blackburn regains the WBA Title.

NABF: Jack Blackburn starts the year as NABF champ and defends against Jewey Cooke in what will become Cooke's last bout at Prime career stage. Blackburn gradually gains the upper hand after a good start by Cooke, who tires in the later rounds. UD 12 win for Blackburn who establishes a 3-2 career mark versus Cooke. Next up for Jack is Canadian Fighting D*ck Hyland, and as in their four previous meetings, Blackburn dominates once again, another lopsided UD 12 win. Then Blackburn vacates the belt after regaining the WBA Title, and Lockport Jimmy Duffy meets Willie Ritchie for the vacant crown. Both of Ritchie's eyes are swollen after four rounds of being on the receiving end of Duffy's blows, then Duffy sustains a cut above the right eye in round 5. But what decides the bout is a severe hand injury to Ritchie and Duffy wins by TKO in the 10ths.

USBA: Young Erne defends the belt versus William Kid Parker, putting on a great boxing exhibition that leads to a unanimous verdict. Erne vacates the belt after winning the WBA title, and Charley White meets Ad Wolgast for the belt. Wolgast suffers an early cut that eventually results in a late stoppage and White annexes the crown via TKO 11. White defends against veteran Kid Black, who surprised White with some strong shots early in the fight. Kid Black makes the most of his opportunity, surviving a bloody nose to pound out a UD 12 win (117-112, 117-112, 116-114).

CBU: Fighting D*ck Hyland starts the year as CBU champ, but he faces Freddie Welsh who looks to add to his collection (Welsh comes into the bout with both the GBU and EBU belts). The Welsh Wizard dominates, battering the Canadian around the right eye, is cut and also which swells up -- the ref makes a good call to stop it in the 10th -- TKO win for Welsh. Freddie defends versus ex-WBA champ Driscoll late in the year, and finds Peerless Jem too tough to handle, as Welsh is cut early and cannot mount a comeback. Driscoll takes the belt by UD 12 (118-111, 117-113, 117-112).

GBU: Welsh remains the Title holder, but did not put the belt up for grabs in 1911 as he was too busy pursuing the CBU and EBU belts to add to his collection.

EBU: Battling Nelson took on Welsh for the latter's EBU title early in the year. Good action in the early rounds, but Nelson sustains a bloody nose despite landing more blows. Even though the Dane led on all three cards, the bleeding intensifies and Welsh wins via TKO in the 8th. Nelson gets a rematch later in the year, and this time Welsh dominates the early action, piling up a huge points lead that proves too much for the Dane to overcome. A lopsided win for Welsh by UD 12.
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1911-Lightweights Part II

Division Profile

Total Boxers: 107
Real Life: 54
Tomato Can: 53

RL Boxers by Career Stage
Beginner: 8 (3 New in 1912)
Pre: 11
Prime: 25
Post: 7
End: 3

Jan 1912 Rankings (Perf Pts and Changes from 1911 in Parens):

Champ: Jack Blackburn 43-5-1 (17) (1267) (+2)
1. Freddie Welsh 22-5-1 (14) (1093) (+3)
2. Battling Nelson 54-11 (28) (1091) (-1)
3. Jem Driscoll 41-7 (29) (1075) (-3)
4. Young Erne 35-14-3 (14) (983) (+3)
5. Lockport Jimmy Duffy 19-1 (11) (894) (NC)
6. Matty Baldwin 28-11-2 (18) (754) (+2)
7. Kid Black 29-14-2 (15) (670) (+13)
8. Charley White 19-4 (8) (669) (+3)
9. Fighting D*ck Hyland 24-12-3 (16) (639) (NC)
10. Harlem Tommy Murphy 24-11-1 (10) (625) (+2)

Comments: Everyone listed is at Prime except for Nelson who has reached Post. Blackburn once again rules the roost, riding a 9-bout win streak to the top. Welsh has won 5 of his last 6, stumbling to Driscoll. Nelson is still competitive, but may be less effective given the change in career status. Driscoll bounced back from the loss to Young Erne with wins over Welsh and Arthur Douglas. Young Erne moved to the elite group with his rather lucky win over Driscoll, questionable whether or not he will stay there. Duffy made a great 18-0 start but has yet to prove he can consistently beat the top guys in this highly competitive division. Bunker Hill Bearcat Baldwin won three of four in 1911 (over Donahue, Cooke and Wolgast) and remains a threat. Kid Black made a huge leap forward when he captured the USBA belt. Charley White is back in the Top 10 after a win versus Cooke. Hyland was 2-2 on the year to stay in contention. Murphy downed the aging Cooke to take a top 10 spot.

Other Notables: Long time contender Jewey Cooke, now 59-16-1 (28), has lost five bouts in a row to fall from #3 to #11 and now at Post-Prime career stage, may not return to the top group. Young Otto tumbled from #6 to #12 and stands at 25-9-2 (12) after setback losses to Wolgast and Knockout Brown. Knockout Brown checks in at #15 with a 17-4-1 (12) record, having a 6-bout win streak snapped by Ray Bronson, who is #14. Willie Ritchie also fell out of the top 10 from #10 to #17, winning only one of four bouts in 1911. Eddie Wallace won 6 in a row but then loss to Donahue to wind up the year at #19 at 24-10 (9).

Prospects: Aussie Herb McCoy is 14-0 (8) which includes two wins versus real-life fighters, Willie Beecher (TKO 9) and Terry Brooks (SD 10). Phil Cross was 12-0 before losing his first to Young Tommy Coleman. Alf Goodwin was fed a steady diet of TCs to build his 9-0 (6) mark. Ditto for Mexican Joe Rivers, also 9-0 (6). Brit Phil Bloom is 8-0 (4). Joe Shugrue was off to a 8-0 start before losing to Sam Robideaux. Robideau is 6-1 (1), his only loss to Canadian Gilbert Gallant, who remains unbeaten at 6-0 (1). All-time great Benny Leonard is off to a 3-0 (1) start, already having whipped Bobby Waugh. Rocky Kansas is 1-0 (1).

Retirements: Tim Callahan and Kid Fredericks hung up the gloves in 1911. Their career stats:

Callahan (USA) 1896-1911 37-26-4 (14) USBA Champ highest rank: 3
Fredericks (USA) 1899-1911 24-23-1 (17) NABF Champ highest rank: 6

Jimmy Britt, Frank Erne, and Art Simms have all reached the End career stage and will likely be the next LWs to leave the scene.

Looking Ahead: Not much in the way of new talent entering the divison, only three newcomers in 1912: Richie Mitchell and Joe Welling head the list. Top of the charts may be clogged up as few fighters are aging and it's tough for newcomers to break through. Look for Welsh to challenge Blackburn for the WBA belt. It will take a few years for the really good prospects like Leonard and Kansas to develop.
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1911-Featherweights Part I

1911 FW Title Bouts

WBA Title Bouts

Abe Attell CH (45-2-1) vs Eddie O'Keefe #3 (17-1)

Abe takes on the youngster, who comes off a disappointing SD loss to Johnny Kilbane after a perfect 17-0 start. This is the 12th defense for Abe who is gunning for his 14th win in a row.

A straight right midway through round one stuns O'Keefe, who tries to cover up but to no avail. The bout is halted in the opening stanza. Attell by TKO 1.

Abe Attell CH (46-2-1) vs Johnny Kilbane #2 (17-2-2)

Attell takes on Kilbane for the first time, and Johnny is at Prime career stage as well, so it may be Abe's sternest test in some time.

After a close fought first round, Abe takes the second when Kilbane tries unsuccessfully to take the inside of the ring away. Kilbane then moves outside and comes on strong at the end of round 3. Round 4 swings back to Attell, but the 5th is a huge round for the challenger and a welt appears near the left eye of the Lil Champ at the end of the round. Lots of action in rounds 6 and 7, slight edge to Attell. Abe rocks the challenger on his heels with a sharp combination. Kilbane's left eye now swelling up as well. Round nine sees Kilbane land a big right near the end of the round, but he can't exploit his success in the 10th. Kilbane begins to tire in the 12th, but he manages to land a three-punch combo at the end of the round to stun the Champ. Attell comes back with a big uppercut in the 13th and wins the 14th fighting on the outside. No KDs as it goes to the scorecards -- a great fight between two warriors of the ring. Attell did what he needed to get the decision. Attell by MD 15 (146-141, 143-143, 145-142).

Abe Attell CH (47-2-1) vs Kid Julian #8 (13-1-2)

Abe goes for his 17th straight win in his 15th title defense. Julian has not lost since his third bout, coming in with 13 in a row without a defeat. It looks like a mismatch as Abe dominates the early action, causing the challenger's left eye to swell by the end of round 4. Julian begins tiring as early as the 8th, and Attell dominates the rest of the way. The ref finally calls a halt midway through round 14. Attell by TKO 14.

Abe Attell CH (48-2-1) vs Young Corbett #4 (38-17-4)

Attell comes in having won his last 17, and Corbett has won his last four. Four prior bouts were all won by Attell. This may be the last shot at the brass ring for the aging vet, Corbett.

Abe pours it on early, and Corbett is simply too slow to stay out of the way. After applying constant pressure, Abe breaks through to send the game vet to the canvas in round 9. A second KD follows a round later and it is all Corbett can do to hang on. More punishment is inflicted by Attell in the form of a third KD in round 11 and a cut eye in the 12th, but Corbett somehow keeps going. Attell eases up near the end for a lopsided UD 15 win.

NABF: Joe Bernstein defends the belt against another aging veteran, Terry McGovern, and Bernstein's slick defense manages to prevail as he avoids McGovern's roundhouse blows for most of the fight. McGovern is cut late in the bout and this results in a stoppage when the cut is reopened -- Bernstein by TKO 11. Joe then takes on Eddie Santry, another Golden Oldie, and wins a MD 12 verdict as Santry struggles with his timing throughout in a bout that did not seem that close. Finally, Bernstein elects to take on an in-Prime Johnny Kilbane, who signals he is ready to fight by putting Bernstein on the deck in round 3, and Kilbane survives a cut eye to win a lopsided UD 12 decision to take the title.

USBA: Brooklyn Tommy Sullivan defended the crown four times in 1911, first against Kilbane in a very hard bout that ended in a majority draw (one judge had it for Kilbane by a point, the other two had it even). After that narrow escape, Jimmy Walsh was next up from Tommy who used a cautious approach, gradually pulling ahead for a comfortable points win. Then it was Grover Hayes' turn, another tough test as Brooklyn Tommy struggles until he lands an uppercut that Hayes walks into in the 7th. An aggressive Hayes comes back to make it a real close bout, 114 all on all scorecards for another draw! Then Sullivan defends against aging vet Harry Decker, an opponent he easily dominates for a TKO 6 win..

CBU: Percy Cove made his third title defense in front of hometown fans in Edmontion, taking on Aussie Jimmy Hill. Cove started slowly but gradually began to apply the pressure, taking advantage of his superior stamina to wear the less experienced Hill down. Cove retained title by UD 12.

GBU: Owen Moran still holds the title, but no defenses in 1911.

EBU: Billy Elliott defended against the man he beat for the initial belt in 1910, Patsy Kline. Elliott was cut over the right eye in the initial stanza, but Kline was cut over the right eye as well in round 2. The bout settled down and Elliott built a lead with an effective long-range attack. The last two rounds saw an all-out assault by Kline that just fell short. Elliott by MD 12 (116-112, 114-114, 115-113).
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1911-Featherweights Part II

Division Profile

Total Boxers: 67
Real Life: 32
Tomato Can: 35

Real Life By Career Stage:
Beginner: 4 (2 new in 1912)
Pre: 12
Prime: 9
Post: 3
End: 4

Rated: 21
800+: 4
500+: 13
200+: 19

Jan 1912 Rankings (Perf Pts and Changes from 1911 in parens)

Champ: Abe Attell 49-2-1 (21) (1548) (NC)
1. Brooklyn Tommy Sullivan 40-14-4 (23) (917) (NC)
2. Eddie O'Keefe 19-2 (13) (823) (+1)
3. Johnny Kilbane 18-3-2 (10) (811) (-1)
4. Percy Cove 24-11-2 (8) (776) (NC)
5. Grover Hayes 30-8-1 (21) (760) (NC)
6. Young Corbett 38-18-4 (22) (753) (+6)
7. Owen Moran 33-12 (15) (676) (+2)
8. Joe Bernstein 37-23-2 (17) (672) (+2)
9. Kid Julian 13-2-2 (5) (639) (new)
10. Patsy Brannigan 13-1-1 (6) (619) (new)

Comments: Still looks like Abe and the ten dwarfs as Attell's record pp total surged past 1500 based on his 1911 results. All the above boxers at Prime except for Corbett and Bernstein, who are both at End, and Julian and Brannigan, who are still at Pre. Attell has now gone for 22 bouts without tasting defeat. Brooklyn Tommy bounced back from a loss by DQ to Cove to remaine number two, and he has one more year before hitting Post-Prime. O'Keefe recovered from two losses to register wins over Santry, Hayes and Bernstein, and he seems poised to take a stab at one of the lesser titles. Kilbane is still probably the greatest threat to Attell's supremacy. Cove was 2-1 on the year, splitting a pair of bouts with Sullivan. Grover Hayes lost a MD to O'Keefe that could have moved him up the ranks. Corbett moved back into contention with several key wins before losing to Attell; he is unlikely to contend after this. Moran suffered a loss to Corbett but won versus Snailham and Herrera; he is about the only top contender yet to face Attell. Bernstein remains on the list despite losing his NABF title to Kilbane; his best years are behind him. Julian had a long unbeaten string snapped by Attell; he might have his sights on the EBU belt held by Billy Elliott. Brannigan had a busy year, fighting 7 times and winning 6 (his only loss was to Julian).

Other Notables: Jimmy Walsh dropped four spots to #11, as losses to Sullivan and Johnny Crowe hurt his chances, his record now stands at 23-10-1 (6) woth 535 pp. Crowe, now 27-13-1 (16), has won five straight to move up to #12 with 531 pp. EBU champ Elliott is next at #13 with a 13-3 (6) mark, 488 pp. Veteran Billy Snailham, another Post-Prime boxer, slid six spots to #14. The other Top 10 fighter from last year (Harry Lyons, who was #6) retired in 1911.

Prospects: George "KO" Chaney blasted out his first 10 opponents (all TCs) before being forced to go the distance in a UD 10 win over Joe Russell. Enrique Criqui of France is also unbeaten, 10-0 (8), as is Leo Johnson, at 10-0 (7). Johnny Dundee suffered a DQ loss but otherwise has been perfect, with a 9-1 (7) record. Joe Russell, at 11-2 (5), has lost to Chaney and Ty Cobb. Steve Sullivan and Battling Reddy are just getting started.

Retirements: Four boxers, including two former WBA Champs, called it quits in 1911. Their career marks:

Benny Soloman 1898-1911 35-19 (28) No Titles Highest rank: 3
Harry Lyons 1895-1911 51-17-2 (26) WBA Champ
Terry McGovern 1897-1911 36-10-1 (33) WBA Champ
Eddie Santry 1895-1911 32-28-3 (18) NABF, USBA Champ Highest rank: 2

Four boxers are at End stage now (Corbett, Bernstein, Aurelio Herrera and Harry Decker) so look for more retirements in 1912.

Looking Ahead: The division is still a bit thin compared to others like the HW, MW and LW, and only two newcomers will enter the fold in 1912. Attell still needs some stiff competition, and perhaps Kilbane will provide it. Look for Owen Moran to defend the GBU belt against Billy Elliott. Kid Julian and Enrique Criqui are positioning themselves for a run at Elliott's EBU title.
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1911-Bantamweights Part I

1911 BW Title Bouts

WBA Title Bouts

Phila Pal Moore CH (16-0-2) vs Harry Harris #2 (47-8-2)

Moore's first defense is against the aging former Champ, Harris, who is still ranked #2 and at 39, almost twice Moore's age (20).

First few rounds are uneventful. Harris starts finding the target in round 3 and Moore's left eye starts swelling up a bit as a result. Slight edge to the champ after five rounds in a close one. Moore resists the temptation to mix it up too much in the early going. Harris works from the outside for most of the bout, but switches to the inside for round 10, which he wins with a straight right that connects late in the round. Harris' face begins to show signs of swelling after the 12th round. No KDs and great defense shown by both men as the bout goes right down to the wire. Harris wins it by SD 15 (143-144, 144-142, 144-141).

Harry Harris CH (48-8-2) vs Kid Murphy #3 (24-9-1)

Harris accepts a challenge from Kid Murphy, another much younger foe who just captured the USBA belt. The two fought to a 10-round draw in 1910, but now Murphy is a year wiser and Harris is just older.

Murphy starts off strong, winning the first round, moving inside for round 2 where Harris' defense prevails. Kid Murphy is undeterred, cracking a big hook on the inside to force Harris to cover up at the end of the 3rd. The bout is close through six, and in the seventh the Champ stings Murphy with a viciour uppercut for the fight's first KD and Murphy's right eye starts to swell up, too. Kid Murphy comes right back to land some stinging blows to stun Harris at the start of round 8, but Harris hangs on and does not go down. Murphy prevails in round 9 as well, landing some good combinations as the Champ shows signs of fatigue. Murphy continues as the aggressor into the late rounds, opening a cut below Harris' right eye. The champ becomes more desperate as he senses the title slipping away. Murphy by UD 15 (143-141, 143-140, 143-140) to take the title.

Kid Murphy CH (25-9-1) vs Harry Harris #3 (48-9-2)

With no other credible opponents on the horizon, Murphy agrees to a rematch with Harris. Murphy is sharp early, cayusing some swelling about Harris' right eye. Harris is repeatedly backed up against the ropes and Murphy seems to be compiling a huge lead. Finally, in round 8 -- a huge surprise. A short uppercut causes blood to gash from a cut above Kid Murphy's left eye -- the cut leads to an immediate stoppage and Harry Harris regains the WBA BW crown, the fourth time the title has changed hands in as many bouts, and also the fourth time Harris has won the WBA belt in his long career. Harris by TKO 8 (cuts).

NABF: Hugh McGovern starts the year with the NABF belt and defends against Frankie Conley, who holds the USBA belt. Conley gains the upper hand when he lands a strong series of blows in the third, and he converts this early advantage to a lopsided UD 12 win. Conley defends against former WBA champ Biz Mackey, who proves to be a troublesome adversary, aggressively pressing the action to take control in the early rounds. A late rally by Conley falls short and Mackey wins the title by a SD 12 verdict. A rematch is in order, and this time Conley prevails, coming from off the canvas in round one to gamely battle back, ending the bout with a strong combination for a 10th round KO to regain the crown.

USBA: Biz Mackey meets Kid Murphy for the title vacated by Conley who had just won the NABF belt. It's a close, hard fought bout with both men being aggressive that ends prematurely when Mackey suffers a hand injury -- Murphy by TKO 10. No rematch, as Murphy defends versus Hugh McGovern, whom he puts on the deck with a solid combination. McGovern stages a strong comeback to make the bout interesting, but Murphy prevails in a close UD 12 decision. Murphy vacates the belt after becoming WBA champ, and Johnny Coulon and Charles Goldman fight for the vacant title. Coulon dominates the bout which ends by a TKO in the 10th as a severe cut above Goldman's eye is reopened. Coulon defends against Monte Attell on the undercard of the Abe Attell FW title bout. The Chicago Spider starts off well, but Attell comes back strong and the scorecards come back with a majority draw, so Coulon barely keeps the title.

CBU: Only one title bout, a rematch of those veteran British warhorses, Joe Bowker and Digger Stanley, and this time it's Bowker who opens a cut over Stanley's right eye in the first that is soon after reopened for an early stoppage. Bowker by TKO 2 to keep the title.

GBU and EBU: Dormant as both these belts have been held by Stanley.
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1911-Bantamweights Part II

Division Profile

Total Boxers: 62
Real Life: 27
Tomato Can: 35

Real Life by Career Stage:
Beginning: 4 (1 New in 1912)
Pre: 5
Prime: 12
Post: 5
End: 1

Rated: 21
800+: 3
500+: 10
200+: 19

Jan 1912 Rankings (Perf Pts and changes from 1911 in parens)

Champ: Harry Harris 49-9-2 (31) (840) (+2)
1. Johnny Coulon 27-3-1 (14) (898) (NC)
2. Phila. Pal Moore 18-1-2 (9) (897) (-2)
3. Kid Murphy 25-10-1 (17) (777) (+3)
4. Frankie Conley 22-6 (13) (743) (+1)
5. Biz Mackey 32-11-3 (12) (663) (-1)
6. Tommy Feltz 30-16-1 (18) (649) (+3)
7. Hugh McGovern 28-11-1 (13) (645) (-4)
8. Al Delmont 30-11-1 (14) (531) (-1)
9. Monte Attell 20-11-2 (12) (514) (+4)
10. Frankie Neil 29-17-1 (19) (476) (+1)

Comments: All USA fighters in the top 10, something that happened in the division a few years back as well. Everyone at Prime except Harris, who is at End career stage, and Feltz, Hugh McGovern and Neil who are at Post (H McGovern hitting retirement year in 1912). Harris cannot be expected to hold the title much longer. Coulon is the likely successor, scoring two wins after losing the WBA belt to Moore late in 1910, but he could only manage a draw with Monte Attell, hardly an encouraging sign. Moore has wins over Burns and Bowker after losing the WBA belt. Murphy had a bright future until he lost the title to Harris. Conley regaining the NABF belt and is itching for a WBA title shot. Mackey was 2-2 for the year and dropped a bit as a result. Feltz has won three in a row versus Forbes, Neil and Kid Beebe. Hugh McGovern had a bad year, recovering with a TKO 6 over Stanley. Delmont was 3-1 in 1911 but a loss to Beebe caused his stock to go down. Attell is back in contention after a UD 10 win over Burns and the draw with Coulon.

Other Notables: Lying just outside the Top 10 at #11 is Frenchman Charles Ledoux, who has compiled an impressive 16-1 (14) record thus far, including wins over Young Oliver and "Louisiana" Biderberg, the only loss being a MD 10 to Phil McGovern. Frankie Burns had a sophomore slump, dropping seven spots to #15 after successive losses to Delmont, Pal Moore and Monte Attell. CBU champ Joe Bowker also fell seven spots, to #16, suffering defeats at the hands of Coulon, P Moore and Delmont. His record is now 29-16-4 (15), with 374 pp. Right behind him is Digger Stanley, the EBU and GBU champ, who is mired in a five-bout losing streak, dropping bouts to Bowker, Mackey and Hugh McGovern in 1911, and his record stands at 24-18-2 (8) with 350 pp.

Prospects: Eddie Campi at 11-0 (10) and Kid Williams at 9-0 (7) have been impressive, all wins at the expense of tomato can fighters. Young Oliver at 12-1 (10) started out well but ran into trouble when he was matched with Ledoux. Jack Kid Wolfe has started out at 3-0 (1).

Retirements: Terry McGovern, who fought as a BW for his first 30 bouts, hung it up -- see record under FW report posted above. As a BW, he held the USBA title for four years but never got above #2 in the rankings.

Looking Ahead: Only one newcomer (Pete Herman) enters the ranks in 1912. Look for Harris to call it quits after one last title defense. Ledoux is ready to challenge for Stanley's EBU belt. Expect Coulon to take over Harris' spot as the top fighter in the division. Pal Moore, Kid Murphy, and even Frankie Conley could challenge for the top spot as well.
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1911-Flyweights

Flyweight Report

Title Bouts

CBU: First ever CBU title bout was held in Australia, with GBU champ Bill Ladbury scoring an easy win over TC Craig Mann via TKO 6, putting Mann down in the final stanza after getting careless in the fourth when Mann stunned the champ and came close to pulling off a big upset. Ladbury returned to Britain to defend the crown against TC Joe Wilson, which was a much more uneventful TKO 9 triumph for Ladbury.

GBU: Ladbury took the crown from his main protagonist, Sid Smith, the fourth meeting of the two whose lifetime series now stands at 2-2. Smith shot out to an early lead but Ladbury battled his way back to register a MD 12 win (115-113, 114-114, 115-113) to take back the crown.

Division Profile

Total Boxers: 24
Real Life: 9
Tomato Can: 15

Real Life By Career Stage:
Beginner: 4 (2 New in 1912)
Pre: 5
Prime: 2

Rated: 2
800+: 0
500+: 1
200+: 2

Jan 1912 Rankings (Perf Pts and changes from 1911 in Parens):

1. Bill Ladbury 20-3-1 (9) (502) (+1)
2. Sid Smith 17-4 (9) (378) (-1)

Comments: Ladbury had a busy 1911, going 7-0 for the year and winning all three title bouts to dominate the division. Smith went 1-2, losing to Ladbury and BW Kid Beebe.

Prospects: Up and comer Frankie Mason won 4 of 5 in 1911, his only loss a UD 10 to Ladbury. All his wins have been against TC opposition, however, as his record is now 10-2 (7). Jimmy Wilde is a perfect 7-0 (7), and he looks to be a future champ. Tancy Lee started off well, at 5-0 (3), including a win over fellow Brit Percy Jones. Joe Symonds checks in at 3-0-1 (3) and Jones has compiled a 3-1 (2) record.

Looking Ahead: Still no WBA title belt in the near horizon, it will be late 1913 or more likely 1914 at the earliest. Two now fighters grace the division in 1912, Young Zulu Kid and Earl Puryear. Ladbury and Smith are fairly evenly matched, so expect to see that rivalry develop further. There will be a continued pattern of slow, gradual growth until the ranks swell and the division matures.
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Jan 1912- Pund for Pound Rankings

Finally, the pound-for-pound rankings.

1. Abe Attell, FW (WBA Champ) 1548 (NC)
2. Sam Langford, HW (WBA Champ) 1437 (+1)
3. Jack Johnson, HW (USBA Champ) 1269 (+1)
4. Jack Blackburn, LW (WBA Champ) 1267 (+4)
5. Joe Jeannette, HW (NABF Champ) 1158 (+2)
6. Tommy Burns, HW (CBU Champ) 1104 (new)
7. Freddie Welsh, LW (EBU, GBU Champ) 1093 (new)
8. Battling Nelson, LW no title 1091 (-3)
9. Jem Driscoll, LW (CBU Champ) 1075 (-7)
10. Packey McFarland, WW (NABF Champ) 1071 (new)

Dropped out: Phila Jack O'Brien, LH (was #6)
Jack Britton, WW (was #9)
Sam McVey, HW (was #10)

NOTE: Burns had been in the Top 10 list in a prior year.

Comments: Another record year with Attell cracking the 1500 pp barrier and two others not listed above 1000 (Britton at 1042 and McVey at 1036). Jury is still out, but there does seem to be ratings inflation in those divisions dominated by a handful of fighters who keep winning against lesser opponents.

Expect it to be about another month or so before the next series of reports, hopefully covering action in the year 1912.
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1912-Heavyweights

1912 action is completed and I will start, as usual, with the Heavyweights.

WBA Title Bouts

Sam Langford CH (39-5-1) vs Jack Johnson #1 (65-6-3)

Third title bout in three years among these ring greats, they come into this one at 2-2 lifetime but Langford has won the last two. With Johnson now at Post-Prime career stage, Langford has to be considered the favorite.

Langford comes out strong, nailing Jack with a vicious hook that puts Johnson on the canvas for an 8-count near the end of round one. Langford continues to press forward as Johnson tries to stay away, avoiding further punishment. There is a lull in the action until round 6, when Langford catches Johnson with some strong shots but this time Jack manages to stay upright. Johnson, trailing, forces the action in round 9, and it is the Champ who gets tagged and must struggle to remain upright. Round 10, a clean hook floors an overly-aggressive Johnson, and then the Boston Tar Baby follows up with a big uppercut in the 11th, another huge round for the champ as Jack is down for the third time in the bout. Langford eases up near the end, but adds a 4th KD in round 14. Langford looked very impressive in a UD 15 win (146-135 on all three cards) and seems at the height of his powers as HW champion.

Sam Langford CH (40-5-1) vs Joe Jeannette #2 (33-3)

Langford defends agains the man who last defeated him, a UD 10, back in 1908. The two are 1-1 lifetime.

Jeannette is off first, firign repeatedly and drops Langford with a barrage of blows near the end of the first. The Champ bounces back quickly to take the second, boxing beautifully. Lots of action in round 5, as Langford steps up the attack, scoring well but is unable to put Jeannette on the canvas. Jeannette's right eye starts to swell up as a result. The middle rounds see Langford building a points lead, and the swelling around the challenger's eye gets worse. Jeannette works the inside to score well enough to take the 11th, but Joe begins to tire in the later rounds and in the 14th a wicked hook by Langford puts Jeannette down for only the second time in his career. Langford goes on to another lopsided UD 15 win.

Sam Langford CH (41-5-1) vs Tommy Burns #2 (40-7-3)

Finally, the bout everyone in Canada had been awaiting -- Langford versus Burns, who by now had added the NABF belt to his Commonwealth title. Careerwise, the edge coming in was 2-1 for Langford, Burns' only win coming on a foul. Both men are riding huge unbeaten streaks, Langford having won 13 in a row, 18 without a loss while Burns had won his last 5, and unbeaten in his last 11 (his last loss was to Langford in 1910).

Both started cautiously, but in round two a hook to the head of Burns scored well for Langford. Burns bounced back well to score points in rounds 3 and 4, but by the end of the 4th he was sporting a mouse near the right eye. Langford was carrying his hands low, making a tempting target for Tommy. It was a close bout to the middle rounds, with both men mixing outside and inside attacks well, when Langford finally found his target in the 8th, dropping Tommy for the count. Langford by KO 8. (Note: two of three judges had the bout even going into the 8th and the third had Langford ahead by a single point, indicating the closeness of the bout.)

NABF: Jeannette began as NABF champion and defending against Burns, the first meeting of the two. Burns' aggressive approach to the early rounds paid dividends as he landed repeatedly, causing swelling about the right eye of the champ. Burns takes the belt by UD 12 with a comfortable margin. Later in the year, Tommy defends against aging ex-Champ James Jeffries, and the result (UD 12) is a foregone conclusion as Jeff tires quickly after putting up a good fight for the first half of the bout.

USBA: Jack Johnson defended twice, first verus the always rugged Joe Grim, whom we defeated by UD 12. Then it was another UD 12 verdict over Charley Miller, the "Fighting Motorman", an up-and-comer who had upset Jeffries to earn the title shot. Miller pressed the attack versus Johnson but could not do much in the way of damage.

CBU: Burns went down under twice to defend versus Aussies Bill Squires and Ern Waddy, flooring Squires four times in a lopsided KO 8 win and then taking the measure of the younger Waddy, this time via KO 7.

GBU: No title bouts. Gunner Moir retains the title.

EBU: The initial belt was awarded in a bout between GBU champ Gunner Moir and Irishman Matthew "PO" Curran. It wasn't much of a contest, as Moir put Curran down and out midway through the opening stanza. Moir by KO 1.
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1912-Heavyweights Part II

The formats for the second part of the reports is largely unchanged, but this time I will try to focus a bit on the crystal ball aspect, looking ahead to see what might happen next, which prospects are likely to succeed, etc.

Division Profile

Total boxers: 146 Real-life:76 TCs: 70

Real-life by career stage:

End: 3
Post: 7
Prime: 21
Pre: 34
Beginner: 11 (including 6 new in 1913)

Rated: 38
800+: 5
500+: 13
200+: 33

Jan 1913 Rankings (Perf Pts and changes from 1912 in Parens)

Champ: Sam Langford 42-5-1 (31) (1587) (NC)
1. Jack Johnson 66-7-3 (50) (1264) (NC)
2. Tommy Burns 40-8-3 (29) (1185) (+1)
3. Sam McVey 35-8-2 (23) (1132) (+1)
4. Joe Jeannette 33-4 (24) (1116) (-2)
5. Charley Miller 16-4-2 (9) (774) (+8)
6. James Jeffries 53-11-3 (46) (773) (-1)
7. Jeff Clarke 19-4-1 (16) (723) (NC)
8. Denver Ed Martin 29-19-3 (24) (-2)
9. Frank Moran 19-6 (10) (654) (NC)
10. Gunboat Smith 15-3-1 (10) (557) (-2)

Comments: Not alot of changes at the upper echelon, but there has been quite a bit of movement with some new faces emerging at the second tier of the division. Of the top 10, all at Prime except Jeff (at End), Jack Johnson and Denver Ed (at Post) and Gunboat (one more bout at Pre). Langford's lengthy win streak (now extending back almost five years) means his perf pts numbers are now second all time to Abe Attell. Johnson has managed to stay second best, beating everyone but Langford who has now beaten Jack three times in the last three years. Burns added the NABF belt and moved up in the rankings as well. McVey was 4-0 in 1912 and is looking for a title shot, preferrably versus Langford. Jeannette definitely had a subpar year, going just 2-2 and losing the NABF belt. Miller is the new face, leaping into the Top 10 with wins over Jeff (TKO 4) and Denver Ed Martin (MD 10). It remains to be seen whether he will be good enough to maintain his status. Jeff is fading but did manage to stay in the Top 10 with a win over Gunboat Smith. Clarke registered a TKO over Martin but lost to McVey. Martin remains in the Top 10 despite no wins in 1912, as does Gunboat.

Other notables: EBU and GBU champ Gunner Moir checks in at #14, 23-13-3 (12), 481 pp. Moir annexed the EBU belt and scored wins over Colin Bell and Arthur Pelkey to go 3-1 in 1912. Jim Stewart, now 17-8-1 (9), leapfrogged to 11th spot with a SD10 win over perennial LH champ Phila Jack O'Brien, who is now in the twilight of his career. Joe Grim, who will start to feel the effects of aging in 1913, holds down the #12 spot at 27-15-4 (6). Pelkey, last year's top prospect, stumbled versus Moir and debuts at #15, with a 14-2-1 (8) mark. It was a good year for the Flynns: Porky Dan had four wins and a draw, notably wins over Marvin Hart and Al Kaufmann, moving into the top 20 at #16 with a 18-8-1 (6) record. Fireman Jim Flynn also beat Kaufmann in going 3-0 in 1912 and is ranked #19. Kaufmann was the year's biggest loser, dropping all the way from #10 to #27 after going 1-3 with losses to both the Flynns and Frank Moran (Al needed to stay away from fighters with Irish surnames). Aussie Colin Bell rounds out the top 20 at 15-4-1 (8).

Prospects: Harry Wills tops the list at 12-0 (11), coming off an impressive KO 7 win versus Fighting Dick Gilbert. Also progressing well was Al Palzer, at 12-0 (9) and Ireland's Jim Coffey, also 12-0 (9), who looked good in a KO 8 win over aging but still dangerous vet, Marvin Hart. German Otto Flint 11-0 (10) has only faced TCs, and Brit Tom Cowler saw his unbeaten record go out the window when he lost to fellow Brit Bombadier Billy Wells, who bounced back with two wins and two draws in 1912 after an earlier setback. Of the newer guys, Jess Willard is 8-0 (6 KOs), as is the unfortunate Luther McCarty (7 KOs in the 8 wins) who hits Post-Prime quickly in 1913 due to his untimely ring death that same year. Joe Bonds is perfect with 5 KO wins in 5 bouts, and Brit Joe Beckett did almost as well at 5-0 (4) in his debut year.

Retirements: Three HWs called it quits. Career marks for each:

Jack Palmer (UK) 1901-1912 19-17-2 (14) GBU Champ, highest rank: 7
Bob Armstrong (USA) 1895-1912 40-25-2 (33) WBA Champ
Jem Roche (IRL) 1908-1912 8-7-4 (4) No Title and No ranking

Roche had the shortest career of any boxer in the sim so far, just 16 bouts.

Looking Ahead: McVey is clearly itching for a title shot at Langford, but right now Sam appears invincible. Look for one of the second tier guys (Moran, Gunboat, possibly Pelkey) to break through and claim a lesser title. I don't expect Miller to remain this highly rated once he is tested. Wills, Coffey, Palzer and the rest should continue to progress but it's unlikely they will be ready for a title shot before 1914. There is a strong crop of newcomers for 1913, led by Billy Miske, Fred Fulton and Bill "KO" Brennan. Of course, looking down the road, 1914 will be a watershed year as all-time great Jack Dempsey is set to make his debut.
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1912-Light Heavys Part I

1912 LH Title Bouts

WBA Title Bouts

Phila Jack O'Brien CH (53-7-3) vs Jack Dillon #3 (18-1-2)

One year after O'Brien's last defense and this time the challenger -- Jack "The Giant Killer" Dillon is the man believed to be the strongest threat to take the WBA belt. Dillon is installed as a 3-2 favorite in their first meeting, with O'Brien at Post-Prime for the first time and Dillon now at Prime.

The Champ comes out strong to take the first round, and a cautious-looking Dillon takes awhile to get his bearings, allowing the Champ to take round 2 as well. A closely-fought bout ensues, almost broken open in round 7 when Dillon lands a devastating hook that forces O'Brien to cover up. Dillon continues to press the advantage but O'Brien's great defense keeps him at bay. Swelling develops around the right eye of the champ in the late rounds, by contrast Dillon is unmarked. Dillon knocks the Champ down in the 14th, and O'Brien hangs on the rest of the way. Dillon wins it, but only by a MD15 that is alot closer than the action would indicate. (143-141 Dillon, 142 even, 145-140 Dillon)

Jack Dillon CH (19-1-2) vs Howard Morrow #13 (13-3)

A surprising choice, but there weren't other legitimate contenders so Morrow, who is coming off two wins over TCs, gets a title shot. No prior meetings, but Dillon is the heavy favorite.

After some quiet opening rounds, Dillon gradually builds up a lead, connecting repeatedly from long range against his ineffective opponent. The bout heats up in round 7, with Dillon working inside while Morrow is looking for a knockout. Dillon lands a solid hook to stun the challenger and take the round. As the bout wears on, Morrow tires noticeably and Dillon boxes his way to a lopsided UD 15 win (149-136 on all cards).

Jack Dillon CH (20-1-2) vs Jack Sullivan #1 (38-19)

No prior meetings, but this time "Twin" Sullivan, the NABF champ, is a legitimate #1 contender, riding a five bout win streak into the title contest.

Sullivan tries pressing the champ early, and both men have their moments in the close, tense opening rounds. Dillon, after a slow start, finds the range as the bout wears on. Sullivan, on the other hand, finds he can't really hurt the Champ despite some sporadic success in a few flurries. Round 8 spells the beginning of the end for the challenger when a severe cut appears above his right eye. An aggressive Dillon charges out in round 12, ripping open the cut, and when the cut is reopened a second time later in the round, it's too much for the ref to allow the bout to continue despite a game effort by "Twin" Sullivan. Dillon by TKO 12 (cut).

NABF: Dillon began the year as NABF title-holder, defended versus TC Hank Newhart, whom he iced in three rounds. "Twin" Sullivan met Battling Levinsky for the vacant title, and it turned out the younger man (Levinsky) was in over his head as Sullivan pulled away to an easy UD win in the later rounds. Sullivan then defended against USBA champ Charlie Haghey, and the bout ended abruptly in the sixth when Haghey walked into a straight right hand from Sullivan that put him down and out for the count.

USBA: Haghey defended against Fred Cooley, another fighter on the downhill slope of his career. Three KDs in the fourth ended it -- TKO win for Haghey. Then a controversial bout with Leo Houck ended in the 9th when Houck was called for a blatant foul and DQ'd at a time when Houck was well ahead on all three scorecards.

CBU: Chuck Carrick, the long-time TC champion, finally faced some real-live competition when he faced previously unbeaten 14-0 Dave Smith from Australia. It was a one-sided affair ending with a KO 6 win for Smith.

GBU: Carrick did not defend his GBU title, as most of the aging British TCs have retired by now.

EBU: Ireland's George Gardner, approaching the end of his career, was good for one more title defense when he outboxed TC Carrick over 12 rounds for a lopsidedd UD 12 verdict. Agreement could not be reached on a title defense against French hope Georges Carpentier, who has emerged as a likely successor to Gardner's EBU belt.
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Division Profile

Total Boxers: 52 RL: 22 TC: 30

RL by Career Stage:

End: 1
Post: 4
Prime: 5
Pre: 11
Beg: 1 (0 new in 1913)

Rated: 15
800+: 2
500+: 10
200+: 14

Jan 1913 Rankings (Perf Pts and Changes from 1912 in Parens)

Champ: Jack Dillon 21-1-2 (15) (873) (+3)
1. George Gardner 50-13-2 (32) (820) (NC)
2. Jack Sullivan 38-20 (18) (787) (+4)
3. Leo Houck 29-9-4 (10) (719) (-1)
4. Georges Carpentier 18-1 (16) (678) (+1)
5. Bob McAllister 18-3 (13) (649) (+4)
6. Battling Levinsky 19-2 (12) (627) (+2)
7. Charlie Haghey 33-21-3 (24) (588) (NC)
8. Dave Smith 17-2 (15) (522) (new)
9. Phila Jack O'Brien 54-9-3 (27) (507) (-9)
10. Fred Cooley 24-14-1 (16) (470) (-6)

Comments: Still some aging fighters hanging in there, particularly Gardner, who is at End career stage, and Haghey, O'Brien and Cooley are all at Post. Carpentier and Smith, with 19 bouts, will hit Prime soon and the rest are there already. No TCs in Top 10 again and look for the final TC title to be wrested from Carrick (the GBU belt) in the next two years. Dillon is unbeaten in his last 15 (13 wins, 2 draws) and appears settled into a long title run. Gardner is still ranked #1 despite a less than stellar year. Sullivan was 3-1 for the year, having a 5-bout win streak snapped by Dillon which dropped him below Gardner in the rankings, whom he beat earlier in the year. Houck defeated O'Brien but his year was marred by that DQ loss to Haghey in the USBA title bout. Carpentier has only lost once, to O'Brien, and is eyeing Gardner's EBU title belt. McAllister was 4-0 in 1912, with impressive TKO wins over Wille and Smith and a UD over Cooley. Levinsky is now at Prime and has registered solid wins versus Cooley and Wille after his premature shot at the NABF title versus Sullivan. Haghey is aging and inconsistent at best. Smith captured the CBU belt but stumbled after a 16-0 career start with losses to Carpentier and McAllister. O'Brien had a really bad year, going 1-3 and taking a big ratings hit when he lost a SD to journeyman HW Jim Stewart. Cooley is on a four-bout losing streak.

Other Notables: Wille dropped out of the Top 10, down one spot to #11, and is mired in a 5-bout losing streak. TC Chuck Carrick still holds the GBU belt and is ranked #12 with a 26-24-1 (7) mark and 287 pp. Right behind him at #13 is Howard Morrow, who stumbled in his title bout with Dillon but still hopes to advance to the Top 10. His record stands at 14-1 (10).

Prospects: Tommy Gibbons is 10-0-1 (8), one win over a real-life guy (KO 1 versus Larry Williams), the rest versus TCs (the one draw was the result of a first round head butt). Harry Reeves, the likely successor to Carrick as the GBU champ, is a perfect 10-0 (8), all versus TCs. Bob Sweeney has a 8-0 (6) mark, also all versus TCs. Frank Farmer is 8-0 (4), beating Williams and 7 TCs. Williams checks in with 6 KOs versus TCs matched with the two losses to other prospects. All the other prospects (Albert Lloyd, Charles Grande, Clay Turner and Battling Siki) have yet to lose versus TC opposition.

Retirements: None in 1912. Look for Gardner to call it quits in 1913.

Looking Ahead: Still a thin division, and no new entries on the way for 1913. Look for Carpentier to challenge for Gardner's CBU crown, and for McAllister and/or Levinsky to step up and mount a bid for either the NABF or USBA honors. Gibbons looks like the best of the young prospects, but look for him to be brought along slowly.
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1912 MW Title Bouts

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Hugo Kelly CH (27-13-2) vs Joe Thomas #7 (18-8)

First meeting of the two, and Kelly is favored to keep the title in his second defense, but there may be some chance for an upset since Kelly just hit Post-Prime career stage (1912 being his RL retirement year).

Both men are cautious in the early going, and Thomas is doing well despite some swelling around his left eye. Kelly moves inside to get more leverage on his punches. Thomas lands repeated blows that cause Kelly's left eye to start swelling as well. Round 9 is a big one for Thomas as a barrage of punches puts Kelly on the canvas, and the Champ is forced to cover up to get through the round. Round 10, Thomas steps up the pace, scoring well, but there is no second knockdown. Kelly tries to mount a comeback in the late rounds, but Joe Thomas looks solid in taking the title with a UD 15 win, with his domination in rounds 9 and 10 being the key. Thomas by UD 15 (145-138, 143-140, 143-140).

Joe Thomas CH (19-8) vs Al McCoy #3 (16-2-1)

McCoy, the USBA champ, earns a shot at the WBA belt after wins over McGoorty and Klaus. The only prior bout was a UD 10 win for Thomas in 1910, which was also McCoy's last ring defeat. Thomas has won four in a row coming into the bout.

Round 1 sees a big uppercut land for McCoy, and the champ is forced to cover up. Round 2, McCoy presses the attack, but Thomas has recovered, and as a result McCoy' s left eye starts to swell. After a few quiet rounds, the competition intensifies in rounds 6 and 7, as it's clear both men want the belt. A devastating uppercut by McCoy puts Thomas on the canvas in the 7th, and once again the champ must cover up to survive. McCoy presses forward in the 8th, but Thomas bounces back to take the round with some solid counterpunching. Thomas continues to assert control with a strong 9th round. McCoy comes back to land some heavy blows to dominate round 10. But in round 11, McCoy's other eye starts to swell, and some fatigue sets in. A game effort by both men goes down to the wire and the scorecards show Thomas retaining the belt by a SD 15 (140-144 McCoy, 143-141, 143-141).

Joe Thomas CH (20-8) vs Cyclone Johnny Thompson #1 (32-10)

Ex-champ and NABF titleholder Thompson gets a crack a getting the WBA belt once again, having won four in a row since the title loss last year. First meeting of the two.

The Champ takes round one, but Thompson looks sharp in round 2, firing from long range, and in round 3, Thomas is in trouble again and clearly needs to make some adjustments if he is to retain his title. Both work the inside in the 5th, again the edge goes to the challenger. Round 7, more problems for Thomas as a cut opens above his right eye. Round 8, Thompson continues to pour it on, and a mouse forms around the left eye of Thomas. Thomas, tiring, makes a last ditch effort in round 10 but it is thwarted by some excellent defense from Thompson. Early in round 12, Thompson catches Thomas coming in and puts him on the canvas. The cut reopens and later in the round the bout is stopped. Thompson regains WBA Title by TKO 12.

NABF: Sailor Burke starts the year as NABF Champ and defends versus Cyclone Johnny Thompson, who inflicts alot of punishment en route to a lopsided UD 12 victory to take the belt. Thompson defends against George (Knockout) Brown, who tries hard to live up to his moniker, but once again it is a UD win for Thompson. After Cyclone Johnny takes the WBA belt (see last title bout above for desciption), Stanley Ketchel meets Eddie McGoorty for the vacant crown. Despite some age, Ketchel turns in a dominant performance, repeatedly staggering McGoorty with heavy leather until the bout is halted with just three seconds left in round 6, a TKO win for Ketchel.

USBA: Eddie McGoorty begins 1912 with the belt, which he defends versus Al McCoy. McCoy, in his first title contest of any kind, proves equal to the task in an action-filled contest, in spite of being dropped in the last stanza by a McGoorty hook. The final scorecards show a SD12 win for McCoy (116-113, 112-117, 116-113). McCoy goes on to defend versus Frank Klaus, dominating in the third round with a stunning display of power leading to a TKO 3 win. Then, after losing the title shot, he took on Gus Christie in a rather lopsided affair that ended in a stoppage on cuts. McCoy by TKO 8.

CBU/GBU: British TC Quinton Wade won a unification bout with fellow TC Dick Rolfe (both belts were at stake) to add the GBU belt to his CBU title. Later in the year, Jake Ahearn emerged from the ranks of British prospects to challenge for Wade's GBU title, which Ahearn captured easily with a 7th round TKO. Wade still holds on to the CBU title heading into 1913.

EBU: Germany's Frank Mantell defended three times in 1912, first versus TC Wade, who he disposed of via TKO 8 (stoppage on cuts). Mantell then defended versus ex-WBA champ Hugo Kelly, looking sharp early against the aging Italian vet, then finishing it out with a TKO 10 (another cuts stoppage). Finally, Kelly's countryman, Kid Locke, took a shot at Mantell's crown, lasting the distance in a bout that did not seem as close as the scores would indicate. Mantell by UD 12 (115-114, 115-113, 116-112).
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Division Profile

Total Boxwes: 118 TL: 58 TCs: 60

RL Boxers by Career Stage:

End: 0
Post: 5
Prime: 16
Pre: 28
Beginner: 9 (including 5 new for 1913)

Rated: 28
800+: 4
500+: 14
200+: 25

Jan. 1913 Rankings (Perf Pts and Changes from 1912 in Parens)

Champ: Cyclone Johnny Thompson 33-10 (22) (1057) (+2)
1. Billy Papke 25-3-1 (19) (946) (+2)
2. Stanley Ketchel 36-5-2 (32) (858) (+2)
3. Frank Klaus 28-5-3 (14) (848) (-2)
4. Al McCoy 17-3-1 (11) (790) (+2)
5. Mike Gibbons 16-3-1 (7) (715) (NC)
6. Joe Thomas 20-9 (10) (713) (+3)
7. George Brown 17-3-1 (11) (674) (NC)
8. Frank Mantell 23-5-3 (13) (666) (+5)
9. Hugo Kelly 27-15-3 (14) (607) (-9)
10. Eddie McGoorty 25-9 (22) (541) (-2)

Comments: All listed above are at Prime except for Ketchel, Klaus (starting in 1913) and Kelly, who are at Post. Cyclone Johnny recaptured the title and is riding a 5-bout win streak since his last loss to ... Papke, who is still there in Prime condition and a strong threat to retake the crown. Papke did not gain a title shot in 1912, but did pile up useful wins over B Moha, Burke, and Mike Gibbons, to make it four in a row since he lost the WBA title belt to Kelly. Ketchel is looking for one more shot at the belt before he hits End career stage, expected after his next bout, his last at Post-Prime. Klaus had an up and down year, losing to McCoy but besting McGoorty. USBA titleholder McCoy was 3-1-1 in 1912, failed in a very close WBA title attempt, and he remains a future champ. Gibbons lost to Papke but had wins over Kramer and Ketchel to remain a top contender -- he awaits his first shot at a title belt. Thomas dropped after losing the title to Thompson; it remains to be seen if he will be able to launch another run at the top. KO Brown was 3-1-1 in 1912, rebounding after the loss to Thompson with a win over Kid Locke. Mantell won four in 1912 but against aging or meager competition; he needs to step it up if he wants to reach the next level. Kelly was winless in 1912 and is likely to fade from the picture in 1913. McGoorty had an up and down year but so far has been unable to produce in bouts against the very elite of this division.

Other Notables: Irishman Paddy Levin, rated #11, hits Post-Prime in 1913 and is unlikely to remain a serious contender. Bill Fleming dropped out of the top 10, from #10 to #13, after losing to journeyman veteran Frank Fields. Ahearn, the new GBU champ, checks in at #17 with a 14-1 (11) mark and 435 pp. His only loss came on a MD10 to Gus Christie in early 1912. Jack McCarron had a bad year, losing to McGoorty and drawing with Fleming, so he debuts at #20 with 394 pp and a 13-4-1 (10) mark. George Chip continued to struggle, and he's only rated #21 after a so-so 3-2 year. CBU champ, TC Quinton Wade, is way down at #26 with a 14-11-5 (1) record and just 84 pp.

Prospects: Several unbeaten prospects likely to join the rated ranks next year, led by the Maitland Wonder, Aussie Les Darcy, who has rung up a 14-0 (13) mark, with only Sailor Ed Petroskey lasting the distance. Jeff Smith is 14-0 (9), sporting wins over Grayber and Kramer in 1912. George Ashe has compiled a 13-0 (9) record, featuring wins over Crouse and Borrell. Albert "Buck" Crouse, now 13-1 (11), has been perfect except for a lost to Ashe. Brit Gus Platts is 11-0-1 (7) and looks to take on Ahearn for the GBU crown after a few more tune-up bouts. Borrell stands at 10-1-1 (7), his only loss to Ashe. Al Grayber, at 11-1 (7) beat Fighting Billy Murray but lost to Jeff Smith. Among the more recent debutants, Johnny Wilson is 7-0 (6), including a recent win over Italian Joe Gans. Jimmy O'Hagan is 7-0 (5) and Mick King is 6-0 (3), all of their wins versus TCs.

Retirements: Two more MWs hung up the gloves in 1912. Career stats:

Frank Craig (USA) 1900-1912 35-19 (22) WBA Champ highest rank-3
Kid Carter (USA) 1898-1912 30-23-2 921) USBA Champ highest rank-3

Craig was one of a few guys I added to my uni at a time when I had passed his RL career start date. I did so because of a lack of MWs at the time (this was around 1900, no shortage of MW guys now, heading into 1913) and he is one of the few guys whose career aging was caused by actual age (he hit 38 a few years back) as opposed to number of bouts, retirement points or retirement year being reached, etc.

Looking Ahead: A fairly tough competitive division, so anything can happen in 1913. I would expect to see Thompson face a stiff challenge, likely coming from Papke or Ketchel, but perhaps McCoy or even Gibbons might contend now that both have reached Prime career stage. I would expect to see someone not in the Top 10 to make a move, like George Chip, Jack McCarron or Willie "KO" Brennan. Darcy is likely to take the CBU belt and emerge as a top contender. Prospects such as Jeff Smith, George Ashe and Buck Crouse could also push the crowded field contending for top 10 honors in 1913. All-time greats Harry Greb and Mike O'Dowd top the list of five talented newcomers to the division, so the competition is going to intensify, even with guys like Ketchel and Klaus fading into the sunset.

Unfortunately, there will have to be a necessary hiatus in these reports for a week or so as I have to pack to go on a trip. Expect them to resume the first full week in August.
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Always enjoy your updates JC, nice work.
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Great stuff, man this not a uni you want to fall behind on I think my eyes are bleeding from reading everything that has happen since I last checked in.
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I must be missing something ... I don't have a cyclone Johnny Thompson ... I have a Cyclone Thompson who as a HW in the 30's ... and a Johnny Thompson who was a HW in the 20's.
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