Who are the top 3 starters in PT?

daves · 11-28-2019, 12:11 AM

If the playoff game was on the line, who is your top 3 PT2.0 choices?

Does not necessarily need to be on your current team. This is all starters in the PT universe.

Pine Tar · 11-28-2019, 12:18 AM

For a gold 86
David Price - live The ace on my team by far.

Pine Tar

Lemandria · 11-28-2019, 02:51 AM

If the playoff is a tournament, null. Depends on the opposing team, because tourney parks are neutral.

If we're on the road, null. (no choice is possible without knowing which ballpark, and they vary wildly).

If we're at home...Dizzy Dean has the highest historical WinP on the Penguins, but pretty much the entire staff is toast in Perfect so the question just might be moot.

Pardon me, this RRF3 tournament is going down to the wire, all tied up going into the deciding game.

We lost to Jim bleeping Merrit? [eyeroll]

mcdog512 · 11-28-2019, 07:39 AM

The new 100 Pedro, 100 Walter Johnson and I guess 100 Cy Young.

Orcin · 11-28-2019, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mcdog512

The new 100 Pedro, 100 Walter Johnson and I guess 100 Cy Young.

We have a winner!

dkgo · 11-28-2019, 09:52 AM

I recently fell victim to the spreadsheet and bought "perfect" greg maddux to replace 99 walter, he has been a massive disappointment. era two runs higher than every other starter last season and this. price has dropped like 50k in the meantime too, gonna replace him with ruffing once i finish the yankees mission

Sipimi · 11-28-2019, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dkgo

I recently fell victim to the spreadsheet and bought "perfect" greg maddux to replace 99 walter, he has been a massive disappointment. era two runs higher than every other starter last season and this. price has dropped like 50k in the meantime too, gonna replace him with ruffing once i finish the yankees mission

Usually those Maddux need better defense in order to be really effective, something not necessarily reflected in those spreadsheets.

webdox · 11-28-2019, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dkgo

I recently fell victim to the spreadsheet and bought "perfect" greg maddux to replace 99 walter, he has been a massive disappointment. era two runs higher than every other starter last season and this. price has dropped like 50k in the meantime too, gonna replace him with ruffing once i finish the yankees mission

Same. I have been very disappointed with his performance but it's the first season. I did a long search in my 3 perfect leagues and saw that others fared quite well with him. Hoping he will turn the corner before being relegated to the ever increasing cost bullpen...

dkgo · 11-28-2019, 12:23 PM

Ive got 100 infield defense too except for 1b. Oh well juat gonna take the loss. Although some players definitely seem to take time to "gel" before producing regardless of what the official stance is.

Sipimi · 11-28-2019, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dkgo

Ive got 100 infield defense too except for 1b. Oh well juat gonna take the loss. Although some players definitely seem to take time to "gel" before producing regardless of what the official stance is.

1- Have you looked at BABIP ?
2- Are your park factors geared towards offense ?

X3NEIZE · 11-28-2019, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dkgo

Ive got 100 infield defense too except for 1b. Oh well juat gonna take the loss. Although some players definitely seem to take time to "gel" before producing regardless of what the official stance is.

If you want to have success with these GB pitchers, i suggest you not only have a grade defensive IF but your ball park factors are lower than average.

daves · 11-28-2019, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mcdog512

The new 100 Pedro, 100 Walter Johnson and I guess 100 Cy Young.

Thanks. I am 0 for 3.

100 Maddox, 100 Clemens and 100 Peak Randy Johnson.

Hopefully competitive enough?

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mcdog512 · 11-28-2019, 05:31 PM

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Thanks. I am 0 for 3.

100 Maddox, 100 Clemens and 100 Peak Randy Johnson.

Hopefully competitive enough?

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That's not exactly terrible. I have Clemens in my rotation and have looked at Maddux 99, not sure on 100's numbers.

mcdog512 · 11-28-2019, 05:38 PM

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If you want to have success with these GB pitchers, i suggest you not only have a grade defensive IF but your ball park factors are lower than average.

What's the thought process there? Keep singles down? I assume power is fine since I've never seen a grounder go over the fence.

Sipimi · 11-28-2019, 06:00 PM

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What's the thought process there? Keep singles down? I assume power is fine since I've never seen a grounder go over the fence.

I don't know about his thought process but mine is: the lower the stuff the more balls are put in play, so more chance for hits or luck to play a role (babip). Lowering the park factors lower the # of potential hits, thus helping Maddux keep his opponent batting average under control.

One Great Matrix · 11-28-2019, 06:23 PM

Cy Young 100, Perfect Pedro either, and Walter Johnson, possibly either, are 3 pretty good ones...

Seaver is definitely the best starter I have & Cy Young 100 has given me the most trouble in many playoff series now that I've lost. Only 2 possibly because of him.

Ty Cobb · 11-29-2019, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by One Great Matrix

Cy Young 100, Perfect Pedro either, and Walter Johnson, possibly either, are 3 pretty good ones...

Seaver is definitely the best starter I have & Cy Young 100 has given me the most trouble in many playoff series now that I've lost. Only 2 possibly because of him.

and Dutch Leonard 100 is a gem!

X3NEIZE · 11-29-2019, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sipimi

I don't know about his thought process but mine is: the lower the stuff the more balls are put in play, so more chance for hits or luck to play a role (babip). Lowering the park factors lower the # of potential hits, thus helping Maddux keep his opponent batting average under control.

What he said, but also adding that Extreme GB pitchers will also look to do just that, hence making the defenders work and if the ball park factors are high, the defense is somewhat negated.

Lemandria · 11-30-2019, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Pine Tar

For a gold 86
David Price - live The ace on my team by far.

Pine Tar

Far from my Ace for any team, but I did get a perfect game out of a David Price yesterday.

One Great Matrix · 11-30-2019, 10:22 PM

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and Dutch Leonard 100 is a gem!

Yeah, Cy, Walter, Pedro & Maddux are pretty good. Then there's an additional group of like maybe 15+ that are 100+ if there was such a thing. And some 100s (esp. lives) that aren't any better than many diamonds.

11-28-2019, 12:11 AM	#1
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Lemandria All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 702	If the playoff is a tournament, null. Depends on the opposing team, because tourney parks are neutral. If we're on the road, null. (no choice is possible without knowing which ballpark, and they vary wildly). If we're at home...Dizzy Dean has the highest historical WinP on the Penguins, but pretty much the entire staff is toast in Perfect so the question just might be moot. Pardon me, this RRF3 tournament is going down to the wire, all tied up going into the deciding game. We lost to Jim bleeping Merrit? [eyeroll] __________________ FOTF victim Farewell Last edited by Lemandria; 11-28-2019 at 03:03 AM.

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mcdog512 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Pack Robert Gibson; November 9, 1935 – October 2, 2020 Posts: 2,339	The new 100 Pedro, 100 Walter Johnson and I guess 100 Cy Young. __________________

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One Great Matrix All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 1,782	Cy Young 100, Perfect Pedro either, and Walter Johnson, possibly either, are 3 pretty good ones... Seaver is definitely the best starter I have & Cy Young 100 has given me the most trouble in many playoff series now that I've lost. Only 2 possibly because of him. __________________

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Pine Tar Minors (Double A) Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 106	For a gold 86 David Price - live The ace on my team by far. Pine Tar

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dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	I recently fell victim to the spreadsheet and bought "perfect" greg maddux to replace 99 walter, he has been a massive disappointment. era two runs higher than every other starter last season and this. price has dropped like 50k in the meantime too, gonna replace him with ruffing once i finish the yankees mission

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dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	Ive got 100 infield defense too except for 1b. Oh well juat gonna take the loss. Although some players definitely seem to take time to "gel" before producing regardless of what the official stance is.