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stl jason · 07-21-2019, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by revmcgator

They were. But not marked as -OL or +. Being unsure of whether to include them, I did not.

I'd include them as they are on the online sheet

revmcgator · 07-21-2019, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stl jason

I'd include them as they are on the online sheet

I'm confused then. Gotham wasn't included in the stats last season (week) and they haven't chosen to add the -OL or + indicators to their team, so I didn't know if they intended to be OL this season.

In any case, I'll leave that to the official arbiters of OL compliance and award bestowal. If Gotham is not included, the prior results stand (Congrats, Bulldogs.) If Gotham IS included, the finals standings look like this (Congrats, Muffins)...

Team W L Pct.
Mudville Muffins 18 14 0.563
Antique Bulldogs 21 18 0.538
Stephensville Bears 16 15 0.516
Corinth Cougars 17 16 0.515
Redmond Birds 18 23 0.439
Gotham Knights 14 18 0.438
Washington Base Stealers 5 8 0.385

UPDATE: Washington and Corinth meet in the AC Sub-League series. Both teams will advance to Bronze next season.

stl jason · 07-21-2019, 03:10 PM

Diamond league update:

California moves on to the LCS with a 3 games to 2 victory over Waffletown. Cooper goes down in their LDS matchup 3 games to 1.

California will move up to Perfect league next season.

Magus978 · 07-21-2019, 03:17 PM

Bronze .218 Update

- Blitzkrieg Boppers come back to beat Everett Silvertips in 5
- Hampton Roads Rush beat New Zealand Silver Ferns in 4
- Redmond Crusaders knock off the Southside Sluggers in 4
- Rockin' Robins lose to non-OL Tarzana Tarzans in 4

3 OL teams going up to silver. Watch the Boppers win promotion before the Patriots, since that's how these things work.

Kushiel · 07-21-2019, 03:24 PM

The good news in Iron is that the Corinth Cougars and Washington Base Stealers will both be promoted to Bronze. The bad news is that they are about to meet in the AC Finals for a berth in the World Series.

Good luck, Joe.

Kushiel · 07-21-2019, 03:32 PM

The Harbour Town Falcons and Sanguine Classics will both be promoted to Gold. If they both win their Conference, two of my teams will meet in the World Series.

Edster007 · 07-21-2019, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magus978

Bronze .218 Update

- Blitzkrieg Boppers come back to beat Everett Silvertips in 5
- Hampton Roads Rush beat New Zealand Silver Ferns in 4
- Redmond Crusaders knock off the Southside Sluggers in 4
- Rockin' Robins lose to non-OL Tarzana Tarzans in 4

3 OL teams going up to silver. Watch the Boppers win promotion before the Patriots, since that's how these things work.

We had a decent pitchers duel in game 5. Red Rolfe's error was the difference. He will be exiled first chance I get (I have wanted him out for two weeks). Good luck the rest of the way.

QuantaCondor · 07-21-2019, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stl jason

Diamond league update:

California moves on to the LCS with a 3 games to 2 victory over Waffletown. Cooper goes down in their LDS matchup 3 games to 1.

California will move up to Perfect league next season.

And during this series I was finally able to cash in Perfect Johan for ~80k after tax, so my team will be fundamentally different. I'm hoping to get a true ace for the roster, pick up an upgrade to my CF offense and depth, and fix that RF revolving door that Koenecke and Gwynn have partially filled for a while.

The lesson I've learned this week: Even on an all-in lefties team, you gotta still play the platoon game. Jeff Bagwell (RHB) went 2 for 4 with a 2B, HR, 4 RBI and 2R in an 8-5 game 5 win in the divisional series. This is as opposed to Dixie Walker, who would have otherwise taken the DH slot, who went 1 for 9 with no walks and no RBI in the series. We'll see how the revamped Quantum Condors perform next week.

Meanwhile, as the only remaining OL team in the Diamond playoffs, I'm hoping Cal can take home a trophy for the OL. But that's just gravy at this point.

Stanley Kuppchaser · 07-21-2019, 04:41 PM

[QUOTE=revmcgator;4517696]I'm confused then. Gotham wasn't included in the stats last season (week) and they haven't chosen to add the -OL or + indicators to their team, so I didn't know if they intended to be OL this season.

In any case, I'll leave that to the official arbiters of OL compliance and award bestowal. If Gotham is not included, the prior results stand (Congrats, Bulldogs.) If Gotham IS included, the finals standings look like this (Congrats, Muffins)...

Team W L Pct.
Mudville Muffins 18 14 0.563
Antique Bulldogs 21 18 0.538
Stephensville Bears 16 15 0.516
Corinth Cougars 17 16 0.515
Redmond Birds 18 23 0.439
Gotham Knights 14 18 0.438
Washington Base Stealers 5 8 0.385

UPDATE: Washington and Corinth meet in the AC Sub-League series. Both teams will advance to Bronze next season.[/QUOTE

Having the OL and + attached to the name was never a requirement. I don't believe anyone thought the idea would take off as it has. While that is great fun for all of us, it has created the problems that have ensued with teams being missed. I believe Gotham last week was the only team that hasn't had its OL games accounted for in any season, which is remarkable given our loose and voluntary structure. Some people may choose to play very casually and just let their teams ride. I think they should still have their games counted if they are still compliant. If they are missed, they would just miss that season. Retroactively penalizing them further seems harsh to me.

I understand that is can be difficult to compile the standings without the identifiers. I think everyone appreciates the work of those that do them. However, sometimes (all too often,I think) OTP servers drop logos and identifiers. In Silver this year, I'm pretty sure Melaka had the "-ol" to start the season, but then it dropped.

Perhaps, going forward, we should adopt some standardization as part of the Our League structure. Here's what I propose:

All teams should add either of the common identifiers to the end of names, that is "-ol" or (ol).

All teams should add + to their abbreviation.

I would also strongly suggest that we adopt the abbreviation standard we used in ESSOM, the Strat play by mail league I played in. Last time I checked, the league had run for 35 years, and might still be going.

The abbreviation standard is:

Two word team names:

Redmond Birds becomes REB +

Two word cities, one word nickname:

Green Lake Cowboys becomes GLC +

One word city, two word nicknames:

Shasta Black Bears becomes SBB +

Two word cities, two word nicknames:

Ewa Beach Fighting Chickens becomes EFC +

Idiosyncratic spellings:

CliffMarkle Roadrunners becomes CMR +

In the rare cases that this system duplicates abbreviations, simply move on to the letter to the right to differentiate them:

Harland Clifts, Hattiesburg Cornhuskers both yield HAC. Harland becomes HRC ot Hattieburg becomes HTC.

Santa Ana Killers, Sanibel Knights both yield SAK. Santa Ana keeps the SAK, and Sanibel becomes SNK.

This need only apply in levels where teams are together.

There are nearly 70 teams in Our League. My thought is that if at least 50 think we should make the "ol" and "+" part of the compliance, we should do it. The only penalty I think we should impose for those that really don't want to do is they will risk having their games not count for OL crowns IF they are missed. I think those that compile the standing should try to include teams without the identifiers, but, given that it is their time and effort, they should not feel compelled to do it. It will be up to the teams that don't have the identifiers to make the effort to get their teams in if they are missed.

How about we run this for a week. Each team gets a vote, so if you have five teams, identify those five teams as five separate votes. I'll keep a count, and if we get to 50, we'll consider it done. Remember the abbreviation standard is only a suggestion. Also, we will not be banishing anybody over something like this. When teams have gone non-compliant in the past, they have simply identified themselves as such and there were a few games that weren't counted. I think a time or two a team pulled themselves out for a season. In this case, we just want people to be aware that they risk not getting a swell crown if their games are missed.

In the Gotham case, I would ask that someone check their roster to see if they have any ineligible players if possible. The Iron crown will go out after that question is answered. Thank you if you have read this far.

Stanley Kuppchaser · 07-21-2019, 04:46 PM

Congrats. I don't have your logo. Post it if you want this changed.

Goliathus · 07-21-2019, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanley Kuppchaser

In Silver this year, I'm pretty sure Melaka had the "-ol" to start the season, but then it dropped.

It did not dropped. As people are crusading for the "-", I have renamed the team "Melaka Armada(the maximum space in betweeeeeeeeeeen)-OL" so you won't see the -OL except in the report screen where it's compiled into "Melaka Armada -OL". This is also why my team's name on the playoff screen is off the center("Armada........" instead of "....Armada...." and have no "-OL".).

Stanley Kuppchaser · 07-21-2019, 04:48 PM

Sweet.

Stanley Kuppchaser · 07-21-2019, 04:50 PM

The city of Redmond is well represented in OL.

mcdog512 · 07-21-2019, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanley Kuppchaser

Also, we will not be banishing anybody over something like this. When teams have gone non-compliant in the past, they have simply identified themselves as such and there were a few games that weren't counted.

I resisted because it looks stupid and is immersion breaking but I did change this season to comply.

Thanks for all the work you put into this Stanley.

Stanley Kuppchaser · 07-21-2019, 04:57 PM

I guess I hit preview post in stead of submit reply. Here's the Southpaws.

Stanley Kuppchaser · 07-21-2019, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goliathus

It did not dropped. As people are crusading for the "-", I have renamed the team "Melaka Armada(the maximum space in betweeeeeeeeeeen)-OL" so you won't see the -OL except in the report screen where it's compiled into "Melaka Armada -OL". This is also why my team's name on the playoff screen is off the center("Armada........" instead of "....Armada...." and have no "-OL".).

Here two screenshots of my reports page in PT

Goliathus · 07-21-2019, 05:21 PM

What the hell kind of sorcery is this, my -OL indeed got deleted, I have added it back. Well, I guess I will double check in the middle of season next week so I won't get screwed.

Charlatan · 07-21-2019, 05:41 PM

Redmond lost the WC game in the NC

Shasta was defeated in theirs
Victoria won their division series.
Harlem won their division series

Contrats to Harlem and Victoria for moving up to Diamond!

I have updated the friends list - and also shaded teams that moved for the upcoming year in blue so people can easily tell who's coming into their league.

Edit to say: apologies if moving the teams makes is more difficult to add those last few games in the spreadsheet.

stl jason · 07-21-2019, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlatan

Redmond lost the WC game in the NC

Shasta was defeated in theirs
Victoria won their division series.
Harlem won their division series

Contrats to Harlem and Victoria for moving up to Diamond!

I have updated the friends list - and also shaded teams that moved for the upcoming year in blue so people can easily tell who's coming into their league.

Edit to say: apologies if moving the teams makes is more difficult to add those last few games in the spreadsheet.

be sure to check/update your friend's lists with the new shifts... that should be all of them so plenty of time to adjust as needed.

I just have the regular season win/loss totals on the online sheet.... think Stanley keeps the official overall standings (including post season win/loss) himself, so the online sheet will be off a bit concerning that

Charlatan · 07-21-2019, 05:57 PM

The abbreviated version of my above post:

Open the friends list at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...y3o/edit#gid=0
If a team is shaded in blue in your league : make sure to add them to your friends list!

07-21-2019, 03:10 PM	#3723
stl jason Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,943	Diamond league update: California moves on to the LCS with a 3 games to 2 victory over Waffletown. Cooper goes down in their LDS matchup 3 games to 1. California will move up to Perfect league next season. Attached Images __________________ Beer League dynasty thread - knock 'em back!

07-21-2019, 03:17 PM	#3724
Magus978 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Behind you. BOO! Posts: 1,850	Bronze .218 Update - Blitzkrieg Boppers come back to beat Everett Silvertips in 5 - Hampton Roads Rush beat New Zealand Silver Ferns in 4 - Redmond Crusaders knock off the Southside Sluggers in 4 - Rockin' Robins lose to non-OL Tarzana Tarzans in 4 3 OL teams going up to silver. Watch the Boppers win promotion before the Patriots, since that's how these things work. __________________ OOTP Streamer Affiliate who is also your FINAL BOSS. http://twitch.tv/GanbaMagus Last edited by Magus978; 07-21-2019 at 03:23 PM.

07-21-2019, 03:24 PM	#3725
Kushiel All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Deep in the Heart of Texas Posts: 1,696	The good news in Iron is that the Corinth Cougars and Washington Base Stealers will both be promoted to Bronze. The bad news is that they are about to meet in the AC Finals for a berth in the World Series. Good luck, Joe. __________________ *Favente Deo supero*

07-21-2019, 03:32 PM	#3726
Kushiel All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Deep in the Heart of Texas Posts: 1,696	The Harbour Town Falcons and Sanguine Classics will both be promoted to Gold. If they both win their Conference, two of my teams will meet in the World Series. __________________ *Favente Deo supero*

07-21-2019, 04:41 PM	#3729
Stanley Kuppchaser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 4,239	[QUOTE=revmcgator;4517696]I'm confused then. Gotham wasn't included in the stats last season (week) and they haven't chosen to add the -OL or + indicators to their team, so I didn't know if they intended to be OL this season. In any case, I'll leave that to the official arbiters of OL compliance and award bestowal. If Gotham is not included, the prior results stand (Congrats, Bulldogs.) If Gotham IS included, the finals standings look like this (Congrats, Muffins)... Team W L Pct. Mudville Muffins 18 14 0.563 Antique Bulldogs 21 18 0.538 Stephensville Bears 16 15 0.516 Corinth Cougars 17 16 0.515 Redmond Birds 18 23 0.439 Gotham Knights 14 18 0.438 Washington Base Stealers 5 8 0.385 UPDATE: Washington and Corinth meet in the AC Sub-League series. Both teams will advance to Bronze next season.[/QUOTE Having the OL and + attached to the name was never a requirement. I don't believe anyone thought the idea would take off as it has. While that is great fun for all of us, it has created the problems that have ensued with teams being missed. I believe Gotham last week was the only team that hasn't had its OL games accounted for in any season, which is remarkable given our loose and voluntary structure. Some people may choose to play very casually and just let their teams ride. I think they should still have their games counted if they are still compliant. If they are missed, they would just miss that season. Retroactively penalizing them further seems harsh to me. I understand that is can be difficult to compile the standings without the identifiers. I think everyone appreciates the work of those that do them. However, sometimes (all too often,I think) OTP servers drop logos and identifiers. In Silver this year, I'm pretty sure Melaka had the "-ol" to start the season, but then it dropped. Perhaps, going forward, we should adopt some standardization as part of the Our League structure. Here's what I propose: All teams should add either of the common identifiers to the end of names, that is "-ol" or (ol). All teams should add + to their abbreviation. I would also strongly suggest that we adopt the abbreviation standard we used in ESSOM, the Strat play by mail league I played in. Last time I checked, the league had run for 35 years, and might still be going. The abbreviation standard is: Two word team names: Redmond Birds becomes REB + Two word cities, one word nickname: Green Lake Cowboys becomes GLC + One word city, two word nicknames: Shasta Black Bears becomes SBB + Two word cities, two word nicknames: Ewa Beach Fighting Chickens becomes EFC + Idiosyncratic spellings: CliffMarkle Roadrunners becomes CMR + In the rare cases that this system duplicates abbreviations, simply move on to the letter to the right to differentiate them: Harland Clifts, Hattiesburg Cornhuskers both yield HAC. Harland becomes HRC ot Hattieburg becomes HTC. Santa Ana Killers, Sanibel Knights both yield SAK. Santa Ana keeps the SAK, and Sanibel becomes SNK. This need only apply in levels where teams are together. There are nearly 70 teams in Our League. My thought is that if at least 50 think we should make the "ol" and "+" part of the compliance, we should do it. The only penalty I think we should impose for those that really don't want to do is they will risk having their games not count for OL crowns IF they are missed. I think those that compile the standing should try to include teams without the identifiers, but, given that it is their time and effort, they should not feel compelled to do it. It will be up to the teams that don't have the identifiers to make the effort to get their teams in if they are missed. How about we run this for a week. Each team gets a vote, so if you have five teams, identify those five teams as five separate votes. I'll keep a count, and if we get to 50, we'll consider it done. Remember the abbreviation standard is only a suggestion. Also, we will not be banishing anybody over something like this. When teams have gone non-compliant in the past, they have simply identified themselves as such and there were a few games that weren't counted. I think a time or two a team pulled themselves out for a season. In this case, we just want people to be aware that they risk not getting a swell crown if their games are missed. In the Gotham case, I would ask that someone check their roster to see if they have any ineligible players if possible. The Iron crown will go out after that question is answered. Thank you if you have read this far. Last edited by Stanley Kuppchaser; 07-21-2019 at 04:45 PM.

07-21-2019, 04:46 PM	#3730
Stanley Kuppchaser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 4,239	Crusader take B218 Crown Congrats. I don't have your logo. Post it if you want this changed. Attached Images

07-21-2019, 04:48 PM	#3732
Stanley Kuppchaser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 4,239	Waffletown Owns D366 (Again) Sweet. Attached Images

07-21-2019, 04:50 PM	#3733
Stanley Kuppchaser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 4,239	Defenders Take Home G316 Crown The city of Redmond is well represented in OL. Attached Images

07-21-2019, 04:57 PM	#3735
Stanley Kuppchaser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 4,239	Oops I guess I hit preview post in stead of submit reply. Here's the Southpaws. Attached Images

07-21-2019, 05:21 PM	#3737
Goliathus Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 449	What the hell kind of sorcery is this, my -OL indeed got deleted, I have added it back. Well, I guess I will double check in the middle of season next week so I won't get screwed.

07-21-2019, 05:41 PM	#3738
Charlatan All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 1,491	G316 Playoffs Update Redmond lost the WC game in the NC Shasta was defeated in theirs Victoria won their division series. Harlem won their division series Contrats to Harlem and Victoria for moving up to Diamond! I have updated the friends list - and also shaded teams that moved for the upcoming year in blue so people can easily tell who's coming into their league. Edit to say: apologies if moving the teams makes is more difficult to add those last few games in the spreadsheet. Attached Images Last edited by Charlatan; 07-21-2019 at 05:46 PM.

07-21-2019, 05:57 PM	#3740
Charlatan All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 1,491	The abbreviated version of my above post: Open the friends list at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...y3o/edit#gid=0 If a team is shaded in blue in your league : make sure to add them to your friends list!