Convince me to buy this game

[AlexJones]

I have recently noticed that OOTP 18 is on sale and I would really like to buy it. I have over a thousand hours in ootp 16 and i love playing it still. I don't know if its really worth the money buying the new game. What are the features and changes made in the past two versions that have made the game worth it for you, and why should I buy it?

[Phatman]

No offense, but I never understood these posts. Do you enjoy 16? Then 18 is better.

[IanIachimoe]

because fighting the globalists can be exhausting, OOTP offers a great escape.

I'm also really digging salary retention & challenge mode.

[mitchkenn]

real minor leagues, real minor league players ... Negro Leagues ..... in 18.
i don't use the 3-D but it's getting amazing reviews.
just the tip of the ice-berg.
i loved 16 as well, but when the real minors were introduced in 17 and then refined a lot in 18, it's a whole new ballgame.

[BlackIce]

If its any constellation, I bought the game last week at over 40 dollars (CAN)... this week its now 20 dollars less.... I could have been awfully mad at myself and mega salty at the developers that i spent 20 dollars more on something I could have waited another week for had a known there was a summer sale in the works but.... I just don't care... that's how much I'm really enjoying this game! Its worth the extra 20 extra dollars for this masterpiece.

[Mike D]

Originally Posted by AlexJones

I have recently noticed that OOTP 18 is on sale and I would really like to buy it. I have over a thousand hours in ootp 16 and i love playing it still. I don't know if its really worth the money buying the new game. What are the features and changes made in the past two versions that have made the game worth it for you, and why should I buy it?

They added two to 16, therefore it is higher and better.

[Bulldawgz24]

How bout cause these guys are committed to continuously put out a good product and offer great support as well? I love the game, but these guys make me want to buy anything they produce....


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[PSUColonel]

buy it, or I'll kick your rear end

[KJDelaney]

Don't buy it. Just play with yourself.

[maximus33]

don't buy it, you will just play it a lot.

[DanKreider]

You put a thousand hours into OOTP 16 and you don't know the feature list for OOTP 18?!? I'm calling BS on that, sorry mate. Either you just came out of a binge on '16 that was so deep you should be outside breathing fresh air for the first time in 6 weeks, or you are just wasting everyone's time. Either way, buy the game (just try to be a little more reasonable with your recreational time).

[Markus Heinsohn]

Changes for OOTP 18:
Major Changes
- 2017 projected rosters for MLB, MiLB and several international and independent leagues
- Added Challenge Mode & online user profiles, achievements and leaderboards
- Added Tournaments (WBC, Olympics and custom tournaments)
- Added Arizona Fall League support
- Added ability to retain contracts in player trades
- Added support for team promotion & relegation between leagues
- Improved and upgraded 3D, including caps on player pawns and much better looking 3D ballparks
- 3D Movements for simulated games may now be stored and replayed (needs game recaps as well)
- Added 3D game higlight reels
- Added Negro Leagues to the historical minor league database
- Revamped Injury System

Smaller Changes
- 7-day lineups now support double-headers
- Can now name manager of the year award
- Game logs and WPA graphs are only generated as-needed (with an option to generate all that are missing)
- Broadcast ball animation now works if sounds are disabled
- Adjusted human running success rates
- Added the option to mass adjust financial figures in league setup by a factor X
- New playoff modes: Modified Double-Elimination, Round-Robin. Added ability to prevent tiebreakers in a league.
- More dynamic morale system
- Updated team chemistry system + added new team chemistry page
- New player list view: Personality+Morale
- Added the option to have associtation draft order sort by winning pct, by league level + winning pct or entirely random
- Adjusted pitcher fatigue replies
- Adjusted Owner Goals
- Adjusted outrageous contract demands
- Coaches / managers are now much more less likely to move to an unaffiliated league in a foreign country.
- Improved import speed for historical minor leagues
- Added support for import of individual historical minor leaguers
- More free agents will be willing to sign minor league contracts with major league options
- Online profile that will save played seasons and achievements
- Online league files now in ZIP format instead of tar/gz
- Smoother widgets during games
- More accurate triples and HR locations based on individual parks
- Added more fielder positioning options. Adjusted fielder positioning and AI.
- Added option to have the AI set up the initial fielder positions for you to adjust later. Added keyboard shortcuts to switch between shift options.
- Added support for displaying splits & double-splits stats in the team stats sections of the league stats screen
- Added support for the overall ratings to be on 20-80 scale in increments of 5
- Added support for importing and exporting retired numbers and their description
- Added uniform number history for players
- Improved roster and transaction AI
- Improved in-game AI
- Fictional player creation has been improved in a number of ways to be more realisic and resulting in a very stable league environment
- Improved player development & aging, resulting in more realistic careers

Bug fixes (excerpt)
- Awards now given out for final month of the season if it ends before the end of the month
- Players in minor league rehab no longer count against minor league roster limits
- Fixed time in the schedule editor to handle noon-times properly
- Fixed case where players in DFA would not show up in rule 5 eligible players
- Fixed case where left-handed throwing players would show position ratings on the infield
- Fixed vs LH/vs RH games started stats
- Adjusted arbitration estimates for multiple future years
- Adjusted player contracts AI
- Fixed Facegen player jersey "button tape" problem
- Fixed crash when viewing 3D with detailed PBP and a WP/PB happens
- Fixed case where players on rehab assignments might not be listed as available for the playoff roster
- Fixed crash when resuming a game by simulating which started as being played out
- Player stats import & export now supports splits

From the pre-order release above to the main release were many bug fixes. As well:
- New option to delay between pitches/AB when playing without pause between plays mode
- Added ticket price history widget option on financial pages

Changes for OOTP 17
Major Changes
- Added 3D On-Field Player Movement
- Reworked real 3D MLB ballparks
- Official MLBPA licensing, including real FaceGen images for most major league players
- Added auto-generated game headlines and recaps
- Added the option to import historical minor leagues (including players) in historical games, including automatic realistic affiliation changes and minor league team relocations when the league progresses
- Added Historical Exhibition mode, have any 2 teams from history play against each other or set up any real World Series matchup including accurate rosters)
- Added multithreading abilities for up to 60% faster sim speed
- Redesigned game interface
- GMs now have much more personalized strategic tendencies
- Recoded scouting algorithms, young players are more often overrated and veterans are more accurately scouted
- Redesigned defensive engine allowing more shift options and increasing realism of defensive stats
- Users may define team needs (league trade screens section) and the AI will react to those with trade offers
- Improved in-game, roster & trade AI
- Improved player creation & development routines

Smaller Changes
- Added the option to assign custom names & abbreviations to league levels
- Adjust in-game logic (pinch hitting for pitchers)
- Small edits to pages (salary report, game page lineups, arbitration page)
- AI adjustments (playoff pitching rotation, bullpen generation, 40-man roster)
- Added leverage index to pitching stats, and splits by leverage for players
- Added leverage options to bullpen roles
- Adjusted player chemistry calculations
- Added option to allow human managers to be fired in online leagues
- Added option to have the AI set the minor league roster based on player skill or the conventional way, filling teams from top to bottom until no players are left (only available when "incomplete minors / ghost players is enabled)
- Expanded world hint text items
- Added multi-year player opt-outs in contracts
- Added the option to use semi-transparent boxes as background for content (game settings dialog)
- All-star game ballots now better reflect player positions and values
- Added option to always allow the GM control over lineups and pitching staffs even while playing GM-only
- The "Quick-play to RISP" function now stops on an injury
- Added the option to allow trading of injured players. Also, by default the game now allows trading of players with DtD injuries or injuries with a duration of 7 days or less.
- Added SQLite support to replace /news/txt files
- Add-Ons Central can handle zip files now in addition to tar gz files
- Added the option to edit draft eligible players if they are from college or HS
- Added the ability to export & import the draft order in CSV format (in commish mode, draft screen or draft order screen in transactions screen)
- The MLB quickstart / standard game has the real MLB draft order for 2016
- Improved AI handling of minor league systems
- Tweaked PM notifications for less frequent simulation interruptions
- Improved player names database (based on QuestDog's popular names mod)
- Fixed minor league player DL notification
- Fixed minor league FA bug
- Fixed bug in AI pitcher evaluations
- Fixed draft display for players with impossible demands
- Several bug fixes and tweaks

Drops mic.

[r0nster]

the game actually sells itself. I been playing since 2001 and haven't looked back and nothing compares to this game ..... even 2 real life GMs play this game as well. (hopefully more soon)


Once you get the hang of it then you would be looking back and be saying to yourself why did you hesitate

[MizzouRah]

If you need convincing.. maybe it's not for you. :P

[WIUPIKE]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

[B]

Drops mic.

Quote of the year!!!!

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Changes for OOTP 18:
Major Changes
- 2017 projected rosters for MLB, MiLB and several international and independent leagues
- Added Challenge Mode & online user profiles, achievements and leaderboards
- Added Tournaments (WBC, Olympics and custom tournaments)
- Added Arizona Fall League support
- Added ability to retain contracts in player trades
- Added support for team promotion & relegation between leagues
- Improved and upgraded 3D, including caps on player pawns and much better looking 3D ballparks
- 3D Movements for simulated games may now be stored and replayed (needs game recaps as well)
- Added 3D game higlight reels
- Added Negro Leagues to the historical minor league database
- Revamped Injury System

Smaller Changes
- 7-day lineups now support double-headers
- Can now name manager of the year award
- Game logs and WPA graphs are only generated as-needed (with an option to generate all that are missing)
- Broadcast ball animation now works if sounds are disabled
- Adjusted human running success rates
- Added the option to mass adjust financial figures in league setup by a factor X
- New playoff modes: Modified Double-Elimination, Round-Robin. Added ability to prevent tiebreakers in a league.
- More dynamic morale system
- Updated team chemistry system + added new team chemistry page
- New player list view: Personality+Morale
- Added the option to have associtation draft order sort by winning pct, by league level + winning pct or entirely random
- Adjusted pitcher fatigue replies
- Adjusted Owner Goals
- Adjusted outrageous contract demands
- Coaches / managers are now much more less likely to move to an unaffiliated league in a foreign country.
- Improved import speed for historical minor leagues
- Added support for import of individual historical minor leaguers
- More free agents will be willing to sign minor league contracts with major league options
- Online profile that will save played seasons and achievements
- Online league files now in ZIP format instead of tar/gz
- Smoother widgets during games
- More accurate triples and HR locations based on individual parks
- Added more fielder positioning options. Adjusted fielder positioning and AI.
- Added option to have the AI set up the initial fielder positions for you to adjust later. Added keyboard shortcuts to switch between shift options.
- Added support for displaying splits & double-splits stats in the team stats sections of the league stats screen
- Added support for the overall ratings to be on 20-80 scale in increments of 5
- Added support for importing and exporting retired numbers and their description
- Added uniform number history for players
- Improved roster and transaction AI
- Improved in-game AI
- Fictional player creation has been improved in a number of ways to be more realisic and resulting in a very stable league environment
- Improved player development & aging, resulting in more realistic careers

Bug fixes (excerpt)
- Awards now given out for final month of the season if it ends before the end of the month
- Players in minor league rehab no longer count against minor league roster limits
- Fixed time in the schedule editor to handle noon-times properly
- Fixed case where players in DFA would not show up in rule 5 eligible players
- Fixed case where left-handed throwing players would show position ratings on the infield
- Fixed vs LH/vs RH games started stats
- Adjusted arbitration estimates for multiple future years
- Adjusted player contracts AI
- Fixed Facegen player jersey "button tape" problem
- Fixed crash when viewing 3D with detailed PBP and a WP/PB happens
- Fixed case where players on rehab assignments might not be listed as available for the playoff roster
- Fixed crash when resuming a game by simulating which started as being played out
- Player stats import & export now supports splits

From the pre-order release above to the main release were many bug fixes. As well:
- New option to delay between pitches/AB when playing without pause between plays mode
- Added ticket price history widget option on financial pages

Changes for OOTP 17
Major Changes
- Added 3D On-Field Player Movement
- Reworked real 3D MLB ballparks
- Official MLBPA licensing, including real FaceGen images for most major league players
- Added auto-generated game headlines and recaps
- Added the option to import historical minor leagues (including players) in historical games, including automatic realistic affiliation changes and minor league team relocations when the league progresses
- Added Historical Exhibition mode, have any 2 teams from history play against each other or set up any real World Series matchup including accurate rosters)
- Added multithreading abilities for up to 60% faster sim speed
- Redesigned game interface
- GMs now have much more personalized strategic tendencies
- Recoded scouting algorithms, young players are more often overrated and veterans are more accurately scouted
- Redesigned defensive engine allowing more shift options and increasing realism of defensive stats
- Users may define team needs (league trade screens section) and the AI will react to those with trade offers
- Improved in-game, roster & trade AI
- Improved player creation & development routines

Smaller Changes
- Added the option to assign custom names & abbreviations to league levels
- Adjust in-game logic (pinch hitting for pitchers)
- Small edits to pages (salary report, game page lineups, arbitration page)
- AI adjustments (playoff pitching rotation, bullpen generation, 40-man roster)
- Added leverage index to pitching stats, and splits by leverage for players
- Added leverage options to bullpen roles
- Adjusted player chemistry calculations
- Added option to allow human managers to be fired in online leagues
- Added option to have the AI set the minor league roster based on player skill or the conventional way, filling teams from top to bottom until no players are left (only available when "incomplete minors / ghost players is enabled)
- Expanded world hint text items
- Added multi-year player opt-outs in contracts
- Added the option to use semi-transparent boxes as background for content (game settings dialog)
- All-star game ballots now better reflect player positions and values
- Added option to always allow the GM control over lineups and pitching staffs even while playing GM-only
- The "Quick-play to RISP" function now stops on an injury
- Added the option to allow trading of injured players. Also, by default the game now allows trading of players with DtD injuries or injuries with a duration of 7 days or less.
- Added SQLite support to replace /news/txt files
- Add-Ons Central can handle zip files now in addition to tar gz files
- Added the option to edit draft eligible players if they are from college or HS
- Added the ability to export & import the draft order in CSV format (in commish mode, draft screen or draft order screen in transactions screen)
- The MLB quickstart / standard game has the real MLB draft order for 2016
- Improved AI handling of minor league systems
- Tweaked PM notifications for less frequent simulation interruptions
- Improved player names database (based on QuestDog's popular names mod)
- Fixed minor league player DL notification
- Fixed minor league FA bug
- Fixed bug in AI pitcher evaluations
- Fixed draft display for players with impossible demands
- Several bug fixes and tweaks

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Holy smokes. When you put it like that, it makes me want to buy 17 and 18 . . . again!

[Padreman]

Buy and stop bothering people and wasting their time

[Matt Arnold]

[tcblcommish]

Why do you need someone to convince you to buy the game? Man, these threads irk me. A couple of button clicks gets you all the info you could need for ootp18 and make your own determination.

If you pumped a 1000 hours into 16, you know how the game works and each version gets better so what's the question for? It's worth it

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[Fyrestorm3]

Originally Posted by tcblcommish

Why do you need someone to convince you to buy the game? Man, these threads irk me. A couple of button clicks gets you all the info you could need for ootp18 and make your own determination.

If you pumped a 1000 hours into 16, you know how the game works and each version gets better so what's the question for? It's worth it

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Thing is, a lot of people are conditioned by games like Madden, where the game engine and available features can and will change from version to version, and so buying the game each year is a potential crapshoot. But that's not what OOTP's like at all. If you don't like something in the new version, 99% of the time, there's an option to go back to the way it was in previous games, with all of the AI and interface upgrades intact. I've never had a bad experience with shifting from one version to the next - and I've taken a single league from OOTP14 up through OOTP17 (finally started a new league this year).

I'm all for taking a few minutes to help convince more people to continuously support OOTP.