Opposing players roles on the team cannot be defined.

CraigBShuman · 11-29-2019, 02:20 AM

Using the most recent build 20.8.73. I've started several new games and keep getting the same error. When I have commissioner mode unchecked, opposing players primary and secondary roles on the team are undefined. However, when I am in commissioner mode, the error disappears and all roles on all teams are defined. I have tried to update lineups and pitching staff using the the "actions" pull down menu. This is my first new game since the last update. Anyone else have this problem? Any ideas on solutions.

Matt Arnold · 11-29-2019, 03:03 AM

This is intentional. They are set, they are just hidden for teams you are not in control of.

BIG17EASY · 11-29-2019, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

This is intentional. They are set, they are just hidden for teams you are not in control of.

I'm not sure this is realistic, Matt. In real life, teams have advance scouts at the MLB level whose job it is to provide scouting reports on teams coming up on the schedule. That includes what roles pitchers traditionally fill in a bullpen, how pinch hitters are used, etc. Plus, for some teams, even the most casual fan knows who the closer is. So realistically this information would be part of that advanced scouting report that we get as an e-mail at the start of each series, even if it's not spelled out in the e-mail.

So completely hiding this info really doesn't make sense. Perhaps for future versions the accuracy of this information could be tied to how good your scout is.

CraigBShuman · 11-29-2019, 10:42 AM

Thank you. I thought I was checking/unchecking the wrong box somewhere.

CraigBShuman · 11-29-2019, 10:43 AM

I agree. I hadn't thought of tying it into scouting. It would make immersion more interesting.

Argonaut · 11-29-2019, 05:38 PM

I think this is more of a Perfect Team thing that doesn't really fit as well into single player GM mode. But the suggestion of tying it to your scout (and I would add the major league scouting budget to that) is a good one.

Dyzalot · 11-29-2019, 06:16 PM

Why are changes being made for PT that alter the accuracy of the core sim? It is inaccurate that teams in 2019 wouldn't know how opposing teams are using their players. I could see some sort of "fog of war" for the early season, rookies and scouting ability but seeing as how any fan can open their newspaper before opening day and see how their home team roster is expected to be used, any "fog of war" should be pretty limited. Most of this stuff is common knowledge, especially if you follow the sport at all.

11-29-2019, 02:20 AM	#1
CraigBShuman Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 122	Opposing players roles on the team cannot be defined. Using the most recent build 20.8.73. I've started several new games and keep getting the same error. When I have commissioner mode unchecked, opposing players primary and secondary roles on the team are undefined. However, when I am in commissioner mode, the error disappears and all roles on all teams are defined. I have tried to update lineups and pitching staff using the the "actions" pull down menu. This is my first new game since the last update. Anyone else have this problem? Any ideas on solutions. Attached Images

11-29-2019, 05:38 PM	#6
Argonaut All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 1,085	I think this is more of a Perfect Team thing that doesn't really fit as well into single player GM mode. But the suggestion of tying it to your scout (and I would add the major league scouting budget to that) is a good one. __________________ Texas Rangers Dynasty (Est. 1972) Hartford Whalers Dynasty: Brass Bonanza

11-29-2019, 03:03 AM	#2
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 14,130	This is intentional. They are set, they are just hidden for teams you are not in control of.

11-29-2019, 10:42 AM	#4
CraigBShuman Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 122	Thank you. I thought I was checking/unchecking the wrong box somewhere.

11-29-2019, 10:43 AM	#5
CraigBShuman Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 122	I agree. I hadn't thought of tying it into scouting. It would make immersion more interesting.

11-29-2019, 06:16 PM	#7
Dyzalot All Star Starter Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,735	Why are changes being made for PT that alter the accuracy of the core sim? It is inaccurate that teams in 2019 wouldn't know how opposing teams are using their players. I could see some sort of "fog of war" for the early season, rookies and scouting ability but seeing as how any fan can open their newspaper before opening day and see how their home team roster is expected to be used, any "fog of war" should be pretty limited. Most of this stuff is common knowledge, especially if you follow the sport at all.