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Franchise Hockey Manager 3 - General Discussion Talk about our latest hockey manager game, officially licensed by the NHL! |
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10-23-2016, 04:45 PM | #1 |
Bat Boy
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Sim Speed
Hey, I just want to start by saying this is not a negative comment and I love the game so far. It is a vast improvement from the original games of the series, and I can see myself finally leaving the age old Titan EHM in favour of Fhm 3.
That being said, I just have one small complaint. Which I assume you could guess by the title of the post. The game simming times and days, in general, are ridiculously long. It takes tens minutes to get through just a few weeks or less in the game. I by no means have a bad computer, GTX 1070 and an I7 that can push 4.0 Ghz. Will the sim speed be worked on at all by release? Cause it is painfully slow compared to similar games, even your companys flagship Out of The Park Baseball is miles ahead; (In a speed test between the two, I can roughly do an entire season in OOTP compared to 3 weeks or so in FHM.) Cheers, Jeep (This was in the other section but it is intended for FHM 3 so I moved it here cause I cannot delete the other) |
10-23-2016, 06:35 PM | #2 |
Minors (Triple A)
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I would agree, although I am sure sim speed will be addressed, as it was through various iterations of OOTP
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10-23-2016, 07:29 PM | #3 |
Major Leagues
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Options on sim speed would be great (fast, slow, average sim speeds).
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10-23-2016, 08:57 PM | #4 | |
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I only know of one similar game to FHM and that's EHM and 10 minutes for 3 weeks is much faster than EHM sims for me (I always sim EHM with a Full Database, all Leagues on Enhanced, and Maximum Detail for everything, and IIRC it takes about 8 hours to sim a season) Personally, I have doubts about the quality of the sim when the sim is fast (I simply don't believe a game that you can fast sim through a season in minutes has the level of detail and attention to detail that I'm looking for) |
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10-23-2016, 09:16 PM | #5 | |
Minors (Double A)
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And simming fast wouldn't have any effect on detail as evidenced by OOTP....if you just play MLB only without any other leagues enabled in OOTP and sim through in a minute or two you still get the same detail regarding MLB specifically as you do if you had MLB, MiLB, JPBL and every other league in the world going on at the same time. The attention to detail is simply left to the user depending on how thoroughly one would go over each season and league played. |
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10-24-2016, 01:02 AM | #6 | ||
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Markus recently stated the OOTP AI could be improved, but he figured two minutes to sim a day made the game "unplayable" (and multiple people, including me, noted they'd prefer the better AI and didn't consider two minute sims for a day to be unplayable) http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...50-post74.html Again, I simply don't believe a game that you can fast sim through a season in minutes has the level of detail and attention to detail that I'm looking for. I'm not going to comment on this anymore, as I know that many/most OOTP fans will not agree...to each their own Quote:
In EHM you can "turn off" playable Leagues and "Quick Sim" playable Leagues (which I never do myself), and the nonplayable Leagues don't actually play games.....I thought FHM was the same, at least in terms of the nonplayable Leagues not actually playing games |
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10-24-2016, 06:06 AM | #7 |
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We have a (fictional) setup with just the NHL (+ optional AHL + CHL) and if you run that, you will be through the year before you can say "OOTP is faster". But really, that is not what FHM is about. We will always try to improve the sim speed but on the other hand we will also add new stuff that will make the game deeper/more realistic and slower again.
But FHM is not designed to be a "fast-sim many years" type of game.
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10-30-2016, 02:25 PM | #8 |
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I understand that it is now the way you guys would rather people play the game, but honestly I fail to understand why it would be so unthinkable to have 3 options for leagues rather than 2 in Path to glory, instead of what it is now (playable, unplayable) having (playable, unplayable, turned off) would allow those of us who want to play the more story-focused game on lower end rigs to do it without having time to make a sandwich inbetween every day.
It seems to me like it wouldn't be that crazy of an idea but it's your game, do what you think is best |
10-30-2016, 02:29 PM | #9 | |
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We can´t just turn of leagues, most of the leagues depend on each other.
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10-31-2016, 06:43 AM | #10 |
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Yes When you start the default quickstart game, which includes all minor & international & independent leagues, then there are 35 playable leagues in the game.
OOTP is very very fast nowadays, as we have worked a lot on speeding up AI processes and also introduced multi-threading support in OOTP 17, which was a major PITA and very hard to do. I am sure FHM will be optimized down the road, too. But as Sebastian said, other feature additions may slow it down again, so that overall there potentially won't be much difference. We'll see
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10-31-2016, 07:08 AM | #11 |
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Te number of playable leagues is not even the problem (of course a big number slows everything down) but we also have international teams and tournaments, we model the world with 130.000+ players at the start alone. Add in staff (which is not smaller), hundreds of more leagues down to junior-14 (which are thousands of more teams), all this takes away speed.
But I can only repeat myself: FHM was never designed to be a fast-sim game, it is designed to model the complex world of Hockey as detailed as possible. We will always choose detail over speed.
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