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03-29-2011, 09:03 PM | #1 |
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I'm not sure I understand this
If I play historical and choose the 1923 season (for example), at the end of the season do I advance to 1924 and draft the actual rookies from 1924?
Or, would I have to purchase 1924 in order for this to happen? Thanks for your answer in advance. |
03-29-2011, 09:11 PM | #2 |
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You do NOT have to purchase ANYTHING to play any season in history. You will advance to the next season and draft that season's new players each season.
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03-29-2011, 09:20 PM | #3 |
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Oops my bad. Remedial reading comprehension classes are needed.
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03-29-2011, 10:32 PM | #4 |
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Wait, what? I read that you get 3 seasons out the door, not any season in history and that when you advance to the next season, you get fictional players, not real players.
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03-30-2011, 12:11 AM | #6 | |
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The OP is talking about iOOTP not the PC version.
The FAQ thread mentions you have to buy individual seasons beyond the three provided... Quote:
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03-30-2011, 04:19 AM | #7 | |
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In iOOTP, the complete historical database is NOT included (memory issues)... so when you complete 1923, you can continue, however the draft is filled with fictional players. |
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03-30-2011, 08:21 AM | #8 | |
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Are we only able to purchase an additional season for which we create our league or are we given the option to purchase the following season for every subsequent season we finish beyond what is included? |
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03-30-2011, 08:43 AM | #9 | |
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You state that including the complete historical database wouldn't work due to a memory problem. However, if I bought every season wouldn't I have the same problem? Also, are you saying that each historical season stands alone and there is no way to continue from 1923 to 1924 with real players coming in through the amateur draft? Thanks. |
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03-30-2011, 08:55 AM | #10 |
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My apologies. I was thinking this was a v12 question. Didn't mean to lead anyone down the wrong path.
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03-30-2011, 08:57 AM | #11 |
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03-30-2011, 02:34 PM | #12 | |
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Is such a thing possible? Surely. |
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03-30-2011, 03:35 PM | #13 | |
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The work the OOTP people did is in coming up with a way to import the DB and assign ratings to the players. This was done a long time ago back at the dawn of this game and has probably been tweaked over the years. But the fact remains that the customer is being asked to pay for something that is "free" and was developed for use in the game "a long time ago". Now, if a customer wants to buy this, then that's fine. Whatever the market will bear is fair. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head to buy anything. Now, is OOTP a single season historical replay game? I think the answer is no. I think that's one of the things it will be striving for in OOTP 12 but as of the moment it has no track record in being the equivalent of Strat or Action or DMB at this moment. OOTP, from an historical game standpoint, has always been a GM sim (where you could manage if you so choose) where you can progress from season to season and play out your "what if" fantasies. I think that's a huge reason for a lot of the success this franchise has had. So, is iOOTP a strict seasonal replay game? If yes, then so be it and charge whatever the market will bear for additional seasons but the accuracy needs to be pretty good or you've deceived the customer. If it's a season to season replay game (I'm talking historical here) then you can't really call it historical if you have one year with the real players and then after that you are a hybrid of real and fictional until finally you are just fictional. If buying all the seasons let's you play through history from 1901 up to the present, you sort of contradict yourself on the memory issue. I'm just trying to understand which end is up? I would love to have a decent ball game for my Ipad. $4.95 is nothing to pay and I'd be willing to pay more. However, I'm interested in historical only and not some hybrid. I don't quite understand how historical works in iOOTP. If it's like the full featured OOTP or is it some other variation of the game? Answers to these questions will help me decide whether or not to buy, and they may help others. Thanks. |
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03-30-2011, 04:20 PM | #14 |
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At a guess its more the bandwidth/time required to download all the seasons at once would put a lot of users off from getting the game is they were all included at once (I know with my iPhone game I spent a lot of time trying to 'slim' it down to that it was fairly compact as a download - not everyone has a fast internet link).
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03-30-2011, 05:45 PM | #15 | |
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03-30-2011, 06:27 PM | #16 | |
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03-30-2011, 06:46 PM | #17 |
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Doing programming for apps is not my area of expertise (like many other things aren't) but I'm trying to look at this logically.
I hate 3G so I only have a wireless IPad. So downloading is the same as for my desktop. However, logically speaking, it makes no sense to download the complete database at purchase time. When I complete 1923, for example, and choose to advance to 1924, I should only have to download the 1924 rookies which I would imagine are a small download, or the rookies plus the 1924 player stats from the DB. I don't know the details but I have a hard time imaging that as a huge download. Why have 2010 players on my machine if I'll never use them. As I wrote earlier, if I end up playing from 1901 to 2010 having the rookies and updated stats wouldn't be a problem if buying 107 additional seasons wouldn't be a problem. I'm just trying to understand what iOOTP offers from a historical gaming viewpoint and if it meets what I'm looking for. I don't think, but I could be wrong, that this particular question has been asked or addressed. Thanks in advance for helping to set me straight. Last edited by Curiouser and Curiouser; 03-30-2011 at 06:57 PM. |
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Also, I don't know for sure because I don't have iOOTP (obviously) but it's entirely possible that you're not getting the entire Lahman database but the OOTP ratings only. This would make a great deal of sense, as Lahman is pretty huge and has lots of info that OOTP doesn't use. So the fact that the developers got their research from Lahman is about as immaterial in this case as saying that the makers of DMB get the info for their season disks from bbref or wherever. In the end, you're not getting access to the website, you're getting ratings based on stats from that website.
It sounds like it might not be a perfect fit either but it sounds like a start, and the game after all is not (quite) OOTP. Quote:
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