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04-07-2020, 11:46 AM | #1 |
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Vlad will be a free agent, rightt?
Found something interesting. Looks like in my save the Blue Jays extended Vlad Jr. but gave him a player opt out after the 2023 season (which I'm currently in)
He is having a great season, so I would expect him to opt out. The question, he'll have less than 6 years service time collected. If/when he opts out, will he be a straight free agent right? Will the game force him into a last year of arbitration? |
04-07-2020, 11:50 AM | #2 |
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He would opt out into arbitration in that case
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04-07-2020, 12:04 PM | #3 |
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04-07-2020, 02:04 PM | #4 |
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I don't think it should work that way though. In real life, almost certainly the player would sign a long-term deal only if it allowed them to bypass the arbitration process. Otherwise there's no real reason for an opt-out if they were still under team control.
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04-07-2020, 02:08 PM | #5 | |
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04-07-2020, 02:13 PM | #6 | |
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His original deal ended one year before his arbitration did. I think this is a fine deal for Guerrero. He guaranteed himself millions of dollars instead of going year to year. He can still opt out and test free agency and might make more through arbitration than what he signed for. Which seems like the most likely outcome. The team, who knows he's likely to opt-out puts the opt out a year earlier as a small attempt to keep him from opting out because he has to play that year before hitting free agency. |
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04-07-2020, 07:19 PM | #7 |
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I'm not sure why the team would agree to this deal. They get no additional years of control, and they locked themselves in if things went badly. They would have been better off just waiting until the offseason before his last arbitration season and then try to negotiate a deal. I'm literally not seeing an upside to this deal for the team.
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04-08-2020, 01:51 PM | #8 |
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I actually do like the deal. Blue Jays lock themselves into salaries when he could be getting pretty expensive in arbitration without the deal and Vlad sets himself up for a big FA payday if he opts out (yes he'll opt-out into one more year of arbitration, but the Jays could extend him again if they wanted to). It's probably not the way the game thinks about it, but I still like it when you think about it this way.
Also Tanaka had similar language to Puig in that if he opted out, he would become a free agent instead of going to arbitration. That's generally how it works with Cuban/Japanese players coming into the league right away, as they get big FA dollars right away without going through arbitration. |
04-08-2020, 02:05 PM | #9 |
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Puig did not have that
Puig had the option to opt INTO arbitration for 2017 and 2018. But chose not to. Then when that contract ended he still had a year of arbitration (2019 with the Reds) before free agency in 2020. |
04-12-2020, 06:23 PM | #10 |
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Shockingly, Vlad had a great 2023 season and decided to OPT-IN to the deal. Guess that loyalty rating really means something.
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04-12-2020, 07:22 PM | #11 |
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04-13-2020, 12:21 PM | #12 |
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It's the equivalent of him signing a 4 year/64M deal at that point. Maybe he likes the security of the deal.
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04-13-2020, 12:45 PM | #13 |
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After getting your message that he would go to arb, I traded for him. We ended up going to the World Series and he had a great season. He has a high loyalty rating, I took it as he liked being here, wanted to stick around.
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04-13-2020, 03:35 PM | #14 |
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