For Markus, Matt and other OOTP PT leaders

HelpDodgers · 04-10-2020, 02:34 PM

MY APOLOGIES.

I could be wrong and that is enough for me to believe you, Matt.

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Dear Markus Heinsohn and Matt Arnold

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I cannot send an attachment in a private message and I am not in any way trying to make the OOTP team look bad.

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I am just pointing out a hack. To follow up on the Don Newcombe multi AH cards, 5 (now 4) with same AH end times. I found another just random looking.

Chris Zachary, a top bronze card pitcher.

Eight of the SAME CARD have the SAME AH END TIMES

So I think someone is hacking OOTP AH. I know, its on a 600 PP card, however it isn't just that. It it 6000 PP. So, if someone has an add-on that hacks the AH this way, it does boast up the price for fair honest players like myself and 99.99% of the other players.

I did not post this to shame anyone. I was going to send a private message but you can't attach files there. But I am not wrong.

There are not eight people who posted the same card at the exact same time for the same price.

If it is 1 person with 8 cards, they couldn't post them all at the same time.

With the virus, this is what I get to focus on.

dkgo · 04-10-2020, 02:39 PM

Haven't you been playing this game for a year? Auctions ALWAYS end at the top of the minute. You haven't noticed that every single auction has the same number left in the seconds column?

Matt Arnold · 04-10-2020, 02:53 PM

Yeah, auctions always end at the same minute, so it's not too hard potentially to list all those cards within 2 minutes of each other if they happened to have 8 copies of the card in their collection.

eldur00 · 04-10-2020, 02:55 PM

They are not all at the same time, there's one minute difference between the first and the last.

How long does it take you to post a card ? I know it takes me about 4 seconds if I know which price I want to sell it at.

Probably just someone playing the market selling their cards in a bunch.

Threnodas · 04-10-2020, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HelpDodgers

Dear Markus Heinsohn and Matt Arnold

--

I cannot send an attachment in a private message and I am not in any way trying to make the OOTP team look bad.

--

I am just pointing out a hack. To follow up on the Don Newcombe multi AH cards, 5 (now 4) with same AH end times. I found another just random looking.

Chris Zachary, a top bronze card pitcher.

Eight of the SAME CARD have the SAME AH END TIMES

So I think someone is hacking OOTP AH. I know, its on a 600 PP card, however it isn't just that. It it 6000 PP. So, if someone has an add-on that hacks the AH this way, it does boast up the price for fair honest players like myself and 99.99% of the other players.

I did not post this to shame anyone. I was going to send a private message but you can't attach files there. But I am not wrong.

There are not eight people who posted the same card at the exact same time for the same price.

If it is 1 person with 8 cards, they couldn't post them all at the same time.

With the virus, this is what I get to focus on.

I really, really don't see what the problem is that you're trying to highlight. Someone has 8 Chris Zacharys. They decided these were the right market conditions to unload them. They synchronized the auctions using custom auction lengths to end at their preferred time (e.g., for maximal buyers, or when they're best able to handle expired auctions). And this means someone hacked the auction house? What did I miss?

HelpDodgers · 04-10-2020, 02:59 PM

I would hope not to be shouted down or have the subject changed or to deal in theory.

please.

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I am not asking how it is possible. First, all the posting are at the same second also.

I have played for over a year to answer the question asked of me.

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Matt, can you say 100% that

a) no seeding (which you did say this)
b) legit AH posts which have been checked.

I really don't think it is fair to say it 'could be' or maybe they were lucky'

So, because of what was just said, I am going to post 8 card in AH as fast as I can, and report back.

UPDATE: I WAS ABLE TO SPEED POST 10 CARDS TO AUCTION HOUSE WITH ROUGHLY SAME TIMES

I will let it go. I could be wrong. I will not post about multi AH cards with same times again in a negative light.

Brain still thinks something is going on however... brain has been wrong before.

My apologizes.

chazzycat · 04-10-2020, 03:04 PM

I don't think you're getting it. No one is changing the subject. They are pointing out that auction times are rounded to the nearest minute. It's very easy and possible to sell several copies of the same card within 1 minute.

mcdog512 · 04-10-2020, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HelpDodgers

I would hope not to be shouted down or have the subject changed or to deal in theory.

please.

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I am not asking how it is possible. First, all the posting are at the same second also.

I have played for over a year to answer the question asked of me.

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Matt, can you say 100% that

a) no seeding (which you did say this)
b) legit AH posts which have been checked.

I really don't think it is fair to say it 'couple be' or maybe they were lucky'

So, because of what was just said, I am going to post 8 card in AH as fast as I can, and report back.

a) He said it 100 times the last three years.

It seems to me you are going to believe whatever you want to believe even when told otherwise by people that have access to the actual data.

dkgo · 04-10-2020, 03:07 PM

You can easily list 8-10 cards in a minute. Set them all to the default 48 hours and WOW MAGIC they all end at the exact same time! Everyone is hacking!

HelpDodgers · 04-10-2020, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mcdog512

a) He said it 100 times the last three years.

It seems to me you are going to believe whatever you want to believe even when told otherwise by people that have access to the actual data.

Actually no, you don't know me so what you think seems to be isn't correct.

After a test it is possible I am wrong.

I don't know how some of you don't see it. because there have been a lot of posts about it to the point he had to say it 100 times.

bogieman · 04-10-2020, 03:51 PM

I have a programmable keyboard. Using that in conjunction with autohotkey I can dump cards at 1 every 5 seconds. I can have different keys for different prices. When you are doing a lot of cards it gets tiresome to do all the clicking a typing.

Thundercrack · 04-10-2020, 05:13 PM

you need to get some air

mcdog512 · 04-10-2020, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HelpDodgers

Actually no, you don't know me so what you think seems to be isn't correct.

After a test it is possible I am wrong.

I don't know how some of you don't see it. because there have been a lot of posts about it to the point he had to say it 100 times.

I'm not trying to pick on ya dodgers. In my defense, if you get a developer to tell you something then open another thread about it in disbelief, it does on the surface appear you're believing whatever you want.

Anyway, happy gaming.

Westheim · 04-10-2020, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HelpDodgers

Actually no, you don't know me so what you think seems to be isn't correct.

After a test it is possible I am wrong.

I don't know how some of you don't see it. because there have been a lot of posts about it to the point he had to say it 100 times.

And all the other 99 have been just as wrong as you are.

And the word you're looking for in the second line is "clear".

HelpDodgers · 04-10-2020, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Westheim

And all the other 99 have been just as wrong as you are.

And the word you're looking for in the second line is "clear".

Why the fight, Brother?

ubernoob · 04-10-2020, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HelpDodgers

Why the fight, Brother?

Probably because someone told you what the deal is, you disagreed and opened another thread on it even after being told you were wrong.

HelpDodgers · 04-10-2020, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ubernoob

Probably because someone told you what the deal is, you disagreed and opened another thread on it even after being told you were wrong.

And from left field comes UberNoob

Name seems like a real life nickname... just saying.

mcdog512 · 04-10-2020, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HelpDodgers

And from left field comes UberNoob

Name seems like a real life nickname... just saying.

Okay, let's all just try and get along to quote Rodney King. All points have been resolved so we're all cool, right?

HelpDodgers · 04-10-2020, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcdog512

Okay, let's all just try and get along to quote Rodney King. All points have been resolved so we're all cool, right?

We are all on the same team! All cool

04-10-2020, 02:34 PM	#1
HelpDodgers Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 307	For Markus, Matt and other OOTP PT leaders MY APOLOGIES. I could be wrong and that is enough for me to believe you, Matt. -- Dear Markus Heinsohn and Matt Arnold -- I cannot send an attachment in a private message and I am not in any way trying to make the OOTP team look bad. -- I am just pointing out a hack. To follow up on the Don Newcombe multi AH cards, 5 (now 4) with same AH end times. I found another just random looking. Chris Zachary, a top bronze card pitcher. Eight of the SAME CARD have the SAME AH END TIMES So I think someone is hacking OOTP AH. I know, its on a 600 PP card, however it isn't just that. It it 6000 PP. So, if someone has an add-on that hacks the AH this way, it does boast up the price for fair honest players like myself and 99.99% of the other players. I did not post this to shame anyone. I was going to send a private message but you can't attach files there. But I am not wrong. There are not eight people who posted the same card at the exact same time for the same price. If it is 1 person with 8 cards, they couldn't post them all at the same time. With the virus, this is what I get to focus on. Attached Images __________________ Last edited by HelpDodgers; 04-10-2020 at 03:11 PM. Reason: I could be wrong

04-10-2020, 02:59 PM	#6
HelpDodgers Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 307	I would hope not to be shouted down or have the subject changed or to deal in theory. please. -- I am not asking how it is possible. First, all the posting are at the same second also. I have played for over a year to answer the question asked of me. -- Matt, can you say 100% that a) no seeding (which you did say this) b) legit AH posts which have been checked. I really don't think it is fair to say it 'could be' or maybe they were lucky' So, because of what was just said, I am going to post 8 card in AH as fast as I can, and report back. UPDATE: I WAS ABLE TO SPEED POST 10 CARDS TO AUCTION HOUSE WITH ROUGHLY SAME TIMES I will let it go. I could be wrong. I will not post about multi AH cards with same times again in a negative light. Brain still thinks something is going on however... brain has been wrong before. My apologizes. Attached Images __________________ Last edited by HelpDodgers; 04-10-2020 at 03:09 PM.

04-10-2020, 03:51 PM	#11
bogieman Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 145	I have a programmable keyboard. Using that in conjunction with autohotkey I can dump cards at 1 every 5 seconds. I can have different keys for different prices. When you are doing a lot of cards it gets tiresome to do all the clicking a typing. Last edited by bogieman; 04-10-2020 at 04:01 PM.

04-10-2020, 02:39 PM	#2
dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	Haven't you been playing this game for a year? Auctions ALWAYS end at the top of the minute. You haven't noticed that every single auction has the same number left in the seconds column?

04-10-2020, 02:53 PM	#3
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 14,136	Yeah, auctions always end at the same minute, so it's not too hard potentially to list all those cards within 2 minutes of each other if they happened to have 8 copies of the card in their collection.

04-10-2020, 02:55 PM	#4
eldur00 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 506	They are not all at the same time, there's one minute difference between the first and the last. How long does it take you to post a card ? I know it takes me about 4 seconds if I know which price I want to sell it at. Probably just someone playing the market selling their cards in a bunch.

04-10-2020, 03:04 PM	#7
chazzycat All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 1,685	I don't think you're getting it. No one is changing the subject. They are pointing out that auction times are rounded to the nearest minute. It's very easy and possible to sell several copies of the same card within 1 minute.

04-10-2020, 03:07 PM	#9
dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	You can easily list 8-10 cards in a minute. Set them all to the default 48 hours and WOW MAGIC they all end at the exact same time! Everyone is hacking!

04-10-2020, 05:13 PM	#12
Thundercrack All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 831	you need to get some air