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But, I will add one thing. Everything you say is true, aj, but I for one will not give in to despair. I will survive this, and so will my friends and family, God willing, and so will my interest in sports survive.
It helps me to get through this by talking about sports, even the pipe dream of seeing it from quarantined and fanless venues. No doubt it's therapy for others, too. We all know how serious this is but there is no use in getting down in the dumps to the point that we cannot talk about something as dumb as sports to pass the time and ease our anxieties. EDIT: And this from one "buttercup" who may have spoken favorably about such pipe dreams earlier in this thread: In NO way would I advocate any such scheme if there were any possibility at all of a health risk to the players, staff members, or media personnel. If their safety cannot be guaranteed, then no, forget about it. I will wait for real sports to bloom again in the fall or next spring. I believe that to be a reasonable and unselfish opinion.
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Pretty ridiculous they cancelled a World Series to institute a salary cap (which failed anyways), but they're considering reopening play during the middle of a pandemic. Still, I give them the benefit of the doubt until they actually go through with this.
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04-07-2020, 11:12 AM | #86 | |
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If you think I'm not absolutely climbing the walls for Blue Jays' baseball this year, you're dead wrong. 2017 and 2018 were absolutely, positively awful seasons for my team. There was a glimmer of hope last year with all the kids, and I was really, really looking forward to this year, not because I thought we were going to win as many as we lose (I think the number would've been somewhere between 75 and 85 wins), but because it was going to be sooo much fun to watch. But honestly, I could not give one iota of a sh!t about it right now, and I think it's disgusting that they're targeting a May start date as of this morning. It's the dumbest, most ignorant, and selfish thing I've ever heard. It's not surprising, given the money involved, but it is so out of touch with the reality of what's going on. It demonstrates how much of a bubble these sports leagues are in, if they think this is a sane way forward. It's a cash grab, nothing more, nothing less, and I can't believe any health official worth their salt, would think it's remotely sane, unless they were being pressured by somebody who has absolutely no clue about viruses on the scale of a pandemic, and how easily they spread. It's not about the lives of all those involved in the games they would be playing, both on and off the field. Those lives, the lives of ordinary citizens, and the people that are putting their lives on the line to fight this, along with grocery store workers, pharmacy workers etc. are going to be affected by the passing of a baseball from one person to the next, spitting, sweating, and the occasional bit of contact that goes on. The space between players, coaches and umpires when a baserunner reaches first ain't six feet. Nowhere near. It's sheer lunacy. You've seen how quickly colds and stomach viruses spread through teams. This ain't no cold. This is lethal, and this idea provides a locale for a re-igniting of it. We can talk about sports, but let's keep those sports in the safe, simulation realm for now, until we know more about this thing. Please don't take it as me raking you over the coals for this. I want to see a return to normalcy ASAP too. I just can't see that happening anytime soon, without disastrous repercussions. If things get back to normal too soon, we're going to see a whole bunch of starting and stopping until we get it through our thick skulls just how damn virulent this thing is.
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04-07-2020, 11:21 AM | #87 |
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Ragnar's and aj's most recent posts have convinced me that this is indeed wrong. For, here's a crucial point: Even though MLB and the player's union have agreed to start baseball in May, that does not mean every player agrees as well. The financial and peer pressure is now on each player to comply, whether he feels safe or not. That is not right.
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Thank you. You're in Scarberia (slang for part of the Toronto area for those wondering what the hell I'm talking about) right? Pretty sure you've seen this. An outbreak at a 65-bed long term care facility in Bobcaygeon has now claimed 27 lives, one of them the spouse of a resident. The spouse dying means it has now spread outside the home to an area that has little to no resources to cope with this. I know you know this, but It. Doesn't. Care. Whether. Your. Area. Has. The. Resources. To. Deal. With. It. All it cares about is finding the next host.
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aj, I am very impressed with your effusiveness on this issue. You should be up there standing side-by-side with Dr. Fauci.
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We're all kind of like the ball players we root for. If we fall into despair over this, we're done. If we all make the adjustments necessary (and really, what choice do you have?), we can get through this. It's up to all of us really.
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Dr. Theresa Tam (Canadian doctor in charge), and Dr. David Williams (Ontario) are doing a very good job up here, and the political leaders aren't deviating from their recommendations so far. Generally, people are doing the 6 foot thing. I'm gonna sound like an old man here, but a lot of the people not following the guidelines are the young 'uns, who seem to think that because they're in a much lower risk group, they can do whatever the hell they want. See: Florida beach throngs, and the chartered plane to Mexico. Ah well, I remember feeling invincible, and being a young asshole too, so I guess I can give them a break. Except that this situation calls for actually giving a crap about others. Convincing the states that can't be bothered with the guidelines or placing restrictions on the movement of their citizens or sizes of gatherings would be a good step, but nobody seems to want to do it. Yes, it ain't unbound freedom, but the potential ramifications of the alternative are extremely sub-optimal. Short term pain for long term gain should be the motto in these times. Finding a way to convince churchgoers that perhaps it would be in everybody's best interest for them to find services online for now would be another step in the right direction. Obviously, being there to worship with family and friends is the most appealing option, except for right now. It isn't just about you, or me, or our families, or our friends. It's about everyone. It doesn't discriminate, or care if you're young, middle aged, old, rich, poor, black, white, yellow, brown, Christian, Atheist, right wing, centre-right, centre, centre-left, left wing, or anything in between. All it sees in all of us is a home in which to thrive. The most insidious thing about it is that you don't have to feel any symptoms at all to give it to someone else. It makes it very difficult to track, which is why waaay more testing is needed. Oops. Another rant.
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If we start up again too early, we risk re-igniting it, and it may come back even stronger, which puts everybody I mentioned above on high alert again. How many starts and stops will we have to go through before we figure out that this is not a drill or a joke? Between politicians, sports commissioners, and medical experts (particularly the epidemiologists), the people who know what they're talking about should be the ones advising when, how, and how quickly to get things moving towards normal again. Obviously, even they can't predict how things will go, because of how new this thing is, but I'll take the word of people who specialize in this stuff over anybody else when it comes to figuring out where to go from here.
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I hope your daughter manages to stay safe. We constantly call the medical/hospital staff, and anyone else working in these conditions "heroes", but those words ring pretty hollow if we're not doing everything we can as individuals to keep this from getting completely out of control. What's going on in the hospitals is all nicely and neatly tucked away from prying, curious eyes, but I'm sure it's sheer chaos. I've seen a little bit of the hospital scenes in New York, and the juxtaposition of those scenes against starting up the sports leagues again gives me extremely painful whiplash.
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Just wanted to say that RchW is one awesome dood (based on PM exchange that shall remain private), and I'll fight anyone who says otherwise.
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