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04-21-2014, 05:22 AM | #21 | |
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Agreed on the idea of letting excellent players pop up in the later rounds, although in my latest draft I saw a couple of 60s left in the 6th round, so we might not be too far off. |
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04-21-2014, 05:46 AM | #22 |
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It was the CBA prior to the 2012 one.
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04-21-2014, 02:05 PM | #23 | |
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Draftee Negotiations are finally realistic!!!
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Since "potential" is subjective and not really apart of the human DNA (lol) i wouldn't say guys with 65 potential dropped to the later rounds in real life. I never been a fan of static potential ratings in games and that is a reason I use 200 TCR and surprising that setting replicate what we see in real life with scouts "missing on players" After all, no one can predict the future. But I do agree that players should drop farther down (AI skipping them) due to their impossible signing tag. (Not sure if they already do or not) Last edited by SirMichaelJordan; 04-21-2014 at 02:09 PM. |
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04-21-2014, 02:23 PM | #24 | |
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04-21-2014, 02:24 PM | #25 |
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04-21-2014, 02:40 PM | #26 |
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04-21-2014, 02:49 PM | #27 | |
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04-21-2014, 03:09 PM | #28 |
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Well Im not sure if the update fixed the draft issue but all my players now appeared in the negotiation screen. Could have just been luck too, Im not sure.
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04-21-2014, 04:17 PM | #29 |
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I liked how they did it in OOTP14 with the negotiation of drafted players however all they had to do was invert the listing for the first rounders who ask for the most to generally get the most. In OOTP14 it was always the first round would ask for 250K while my 9th rounder asked for 2.5 million. happens every season. Figured if it got inverted problem solved. However it seems for this current version they got more creative with handling of this which appears to be good as well... some players do like to stay out of draft and be FAs or wait till following season much like NFL where as a player get drafted by a team and the player has no desire to play for that franchise
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04-21-2014, 04:48 PM | #30 |
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Two things that might be improved about drafting. First, while current high schoolers might be inclined to go to college, this was not always the case back a couple of decades.
(Question: does the probability that a high schooler goes to college increase with the ratio of colleges to high schools? Or, if you have a 50 high schools and one college I guess all high schoolers can't to go college. Any one know this? Does the game auto adjust inclination to go to college based on the ratio of colleges to high schools?) Second, later round draft choices are demanding far too much money. I have last round draft choices (who are last round quality players) demanding more than the #1 draft choice in the league demands (and accepts). |
04-21-2014, 07:35 PM | #31 | |
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Thing is that last round pick could be a dual sport player who was a decent all state baseball player that probably don't have a future in the Majors but was an HS All American or a top 100 recruit in the US in basketball//or football. I don't think asking for a couple mil to play for pennies in the minors is too much if the guy could have a future in the NFL or NBA. Lol its up to the person on the other end to be smart enough to not give him that bonus. |
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04-21-2014, 07:53 PM | #32 | |
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04-21-2014, 08:06 PM | #33 |
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Sign all Draft Picks to a contract same with when doing Free-Agent Draft?
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04-21-2014, 08:33 PM | #34 | |
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But almost all the picks above #5 demanded over $80k (twice or more of the #1 slot value) ..and were also "impossibles"...along with having almost zero potential. So I made bonus offers to a couple of players and the rest were sent their way without a single conversation. I guess I'll just hire a bunch of free agents to fill my lower minors. So, yes, some draftees would demand lots of money beyond what anyone would pay. But MOST doing this? And the demand they make exceeds that made by #1 picks by multiples although they had no potential? I guess one can tell some story (the draft was filled with Bo Jacksons and Einsteins and Bill Gateses who had options outside baseball) to explain this but that seems a bit implausible. |
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04-21-2014, 08:44 PM | #35 | |
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Did you just take the most talented guys without checking their signability,? Is this something other folks are seeing as well? Last edited by Lukas Berger; 04-21-2014 at 08:49 PM. |
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04-21-2014, 09:58 PM | #36 | |
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I loaded up the game for the first time with the new patch, and my list of draftees asking for money has expanded and/or some are asking for less now. Those college guys didn't appear before as asking for money. But look at those unsigned people at the bottom. My first round choice got, I see now, about $60K (it being 1970 or so). But guys who are characterized as having the potential of being "minor league filler" are asking for far more than that. |
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04-21-2014, 10:27 PM | #37 | |
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Irl most teams spend the majority of their picks from 25-40 on hs guys they know are demanding too much to be signable at that point. Most teams only sign anywhere from 25-35 of their 40 picks. So that's quite accurate. |
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04-21-2014, 10:33 PM | #38 |
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Some Draft Picks go right to Minors and no chance to sign them.
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04-21-2014, 11:20 PM | #39 | |
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But my concern is that when IRL draft picks are not signed it is because they are asking for more than they are worth. It isn't typically because they all are asking for even more than first round draft choices get. The game seems to get to the result some people might want (many unsigned players) but it get to it in an unrealistic way. But more to the point: this failure to sign because players make completely unrealistic demands is more a modern phenomena. In the, say, 1970s it was much less common. Ideally, the game player should have some control over the likelihood players don't sign because they want to go to college. Perhaps this can be controlled by reducing the number of colleges? |
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04-21-2014, 11:29 PM | #40 | |
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the one problem I see here is AI drafting these guys, if the goal was to have easy signees. HSchoolers with Impossible should probably not be drafted at this point If anything seeing this shows a place where I have the advantage over AI |
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