Fighters: Debuting Prior to 1900 - Page 12

bear · 11-11-2006, 11:32 AM

Joe Kennedy - 011619
1895-1902
HW (USA)
5-4-3 (2)

bear · 11-11-2006, 11:33 AM

The first teen-age world champion (featherweight). Cal McCarthy late 1880s-early 1890s.
1888 - 1892
id=10682
Sex Male
Nationality US American
Alias The Wonder
Hometown New York, NY
Birthplace McClintockville, PA
Division Featherweight
Date of Birth 1869-01-01
Date of Death 1895-11-27
Age at Death 26
Stance Orthodox
Height 5' 2½
W 7 (5 ko's) | L 2 | D 3 | Total 12

bear · 11-11-2006, 11:35 AM

Been looking for this guy forever...
Jack Boylan
Box rec shows him as a welterweight with no victories to his name. TBCB2 rates the guy a "5" HW, so he couldn't have been that terrible. Anyone know any more about him?
1883 - 1908
id=68517
Sex Male
Division Welterweight
W 0 (0 ko's) | L 3 | D 0 | Total 5

bear · 11-11-2006, 11:37 AM

Peter Courtney
1893-1895?
id=10549
Sex Male
Nationality US American
Division Heavyweight
W 0 (0 ko's) | L 3 | D 0 | Total 3
On the eve of his battle for the UoLBA title, I did a fresh search and uncovered this gem.
This still was made before Courtney's match with Jim Corbett - a well documented (with video still in existence) brawl that somehow isn't noted on boxrec. According to boxrec, Courtney was 0-3-0 (a puzzling coincidence with Jack Boylan's boxrec record), with 2 losses to Peter Maher, and one to a Charley Strong shortly before his death by tuberculosis in 1896.
FYI - You can witness the short clip of Courtney and Corbett going at it by pointing your browser here:

http://www.open-video.org/details.php?videoid=4643

bear · 11-11-2006, 11:38 AM

Al Neill - 040493
1899-1910
WW (USA)
24-12-11 (14)

bear · 11-11-2006, 11:39 AM

Herbert (Maori) Slade - 032606
1882-1891
HW (New Zealand)
0-7-1

bear · 11-11-2006, 11:41 AM

Here is Dave Sullivan, FW from the 1890s.
1895 - 1905
id=10711
Sex Male
Nationality Irish
Hometown Boston, MA
Birthplace Cork
Division Featherweight
Date of Birth 1877-05-10
Height 5' 4½
W 26 (17 ko's) (+ 1 news) | L 12 | D 17 | Total 56

bear · 11-11-2006, 11:42 AM

Dave Sullivan alt - 010711
1895-1905
FW (Ireland)
27-12-17 (17)

bigMatt · 11-11-2006, 01:49 PM

Fred "Cyclone" Morris - 013749
1891-1903
MW(US)
7-11-5(5)

bigMatt · 11-11-2006, 01:51 PM

Dick Matthews "The Pacific Coast Wonder" - 143655
1882-1892
HW(US)
32-5-0(31)

bear · 11-12-2006, 07:07 PM

Jack Johnson HW (alt)
1894 - 1938
id=1187
Sex Male
Nationality US American
Alias Galveston Giant
Birth Name John Arthur Johnson
Hometown Raleigh, NC, USA
Birthplace Galveston, TX, USA
Division Heavyweight
Date of Birth 1878-03-31
Date of Death 1946-06-10
Age at Death 68
Reach 74
Stance Orthodox
Height 6' 1½
Trainer Henry (Pop) Blanken
W 83 (52 ko's) (+ 10 news) | L 14 | D 11 (+ 1 news) | Total 126

bear · 11-12-2006, 07:09 PM

Jake Ahearn
1894 - 1899
id=137182
Sex Male
Nationality US American
Hometown Brooklyn, NY
Division Lightweight
W 1 (0 ko's) | L 1 | D 0 | Total 2

bear · 11-12-2006, 07:14 PM

Tom Allen
1861 - 1884
id=78578
Sex Male
Nationality British
Hometown England
Birthplace Birmingham, England
Division Heavyweight
Date of Birth 1840-04-01
Date of Death 1903-04-05
Age at Death 63
Height 5' 11
W 12 (1 ko's) | L 8 | D 4 | Total 26

My Uni currently features primarily 1800's HW fighters, so I've been on the lookout and found some pretty good stuff. Some of this might have been posted before, but I didn't find it. If so, my apologies in advance.
The first 3 are bareknuckler Tom Allen at different stages of his career

bear · 11-12-2006, 07:15 PM

Tom Allen mid career

bear · 11-12-2006, 07:16 PM

Tom Allen late career

bear · 11-12-2006, 07:18 PM

Joe Goss
1857-1880
id=032615
Sex Male
Nationality British
Hometown Boston, MA, USA
Birthplace Northampton, England
Division Heavyweight
Date of Birth 1837-11-16
Date of Death 1885-03-24
Age at Death 47
Height 5' 8
W 11 (1 ko's) | L 2 | D 4 | Total 17

Goss took the Championship of America belt away from Tom Allen in a DQ for Allen, who hit Goss when he was down. This was one of 4 battles between the two fighters, 2 wins and 2 draws for Goss. Goss lost the belt to Paddy Ryan 3.5 years later at Collier Station, WV, Goss's last recorded bout.

bear · 11-12-2006, 07:23 PM

Joe Coburn
1856-1871
Known for his two battles against Jem Mace for the World Championship. The first fight was ended early, the second was fought to a draw.
No, this picture was not digitally altered...

bear · 11-12-2006, 07:23 PM

Joe Coburn alt

bear · 11-12-2006, 07:25 PM

John "The Professor" Donaldson
I'm wanting to say this guy fought Sullivan. I know he was pretty well-respected for his boxing prowess.
1884 - 1898
id=78576
Sex Male
Nationality US American
Hometown Cincinnati, OH
Division Heavyweight
W 0 (0 ko's) | L 2 | D 0 | Total 2

bear · 11-12-2006, 07:26 PM

Dominick McCaffrey
1881 - 1906
id=10542
Sex Male
Nationality US American
Hometown Pittsburgh, PA
Birthplace Pittsburgh, PA
Division Middleweight
Date of Birth 1863-09-24
Date of Death 1926-12-29
Age at Death 63
Height 5' 9
W 15 (9 ko's) | L 7 | D 2 | Total 31
A prominent fighter during this period, he was smaller than many he fought, including John L. Sullivan.
Boxrec id's him as a middleweight?

11-11-2006, 11:32 AM	#221
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 18,797	Joe Kennedy repost Romultiltus Joe Kennedy - 011619 1895-1902 HW (USA) 5-4-3 (2) Attached Images

11-11-2006, 11:33 AM	#222
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 18,797	Cal McCarthy repost Jofre The first teen-age world champion (featherweight). Cal McCarthy late 1880s-early 1890s. 1888 - 1892 id=10682 Sex Male Nationality US American Alias The Wonder Hometown New York, NY Birthplace McClintockville, PA Division Featherweight Date of Birth 1869-01-01 Date of Death 1895-11-27 Age at Death 26 Stance Orthodox Height 5' 2½ W 7 (5 ko's) \| L 2 \| D 3 \| Total 12 Attached Images

11-11-2006, 11:35 AM	#223
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 18,797	Jack Boylan repost BigMatt Been looking for this guy forever... Jack Boylan Box rec shows him as a welterweight with no victories to his name. TBCB2 rates the guy a "5" HW, so he couldn't have been that terrible. Anyone know any more about him? 1883 - 1908 id=68517 Sex Male Division Welterweight W 0 (0 ko's) \| L 3 \| D 0 \| Total 5 Attached Images

11-11-2006, 11:37 AM	#224
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 18,797	Peter Courtney repost BigMatt Peter Courtney 1893-1895? id=10549 Sex Male Nationality US American Division Heavyweight W 0 (0 ko's) \| L 3 \| D 0 \| Total 3 On the eve of his battle for the UoLBA title, I did a fresh search and uncovered this gem. This still was made before Courtney's match with Jim Corbett - a well documented (with video still in existence) brawl that somehow isn't noted on boxrec. According to boxrec, Courtney was 0-3-0 (a puzzling coincidence with Jack Boylan's boxrec record), with 2 losses to Peter Maher, and one to a Charley Strong shortly before his death by tuberculosis in 1896. FYI - You can witness the short clip of Courtney and Corbett going at it by pointing your browser here: http://www.open-video.org/details.php?videoid=4643 Attached Images

11-11-2006, 11:38 AM	#225
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 18,797	Al Neill repost Romultiltus Al Neill - 040493 1899-1910 WW (USA) 24-12-11 (14) Attached Images

11-11-2006, 11:39 AM	#226
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 18,797	Herbert (Maori) Slade repost Romultiltus Herbert (Maori) Slade - 032606 1882-1891 HW (New Zealand) 0-7-1 Attached Images

11-11-2006, 11:41 AM	#227
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 18,797	Dave Sullivan, FW repost Jofre Here is Dave Sullivan, FW from the 1890s. 1895 - 1905 id=10711 Sex Male Nationality Irish Hometown Boston, MA Birthplace Cork Division Featherweight Date of Birth 1877-05-10 Height 5' 4½ W 26 (17 ko's) (+ 1 news) \| L 12 \| D 17 \| Total 56 Attached Images

11-11-2006, 11:42 AM	#228
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 18,797	Dave Sullivan repost Romultiltus Dave Sullivan alt - 010711 1895-1905 FW (Ireland) 27-12-17 (17) Attached Images

11-11-2006, 01:49 PM	#229
bigMatt Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 2,375	Fred Morris Fred "Cyclone" Morris - 013749 1891-1903 MW(US) 7-11-5(5) Attached Images

11-11-2006, 01:51 PM	#230
bigMatt Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 2,375	Dick Matthews Dick Matthews "The Pacific Coast Wonder" - 143655 1882-1892 HW(US) 32-5-0(31) Attached Images

11-12-2006, 07:07 PM	#231
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 18,797	Jack Johnson repost IceTea Jack Johnson HW (alt) 1894 - 1938 id=1187 Sex Male Nationality US American Alias Galveston Giant Birth Name John Arthur Johnson Hometown Raleigh, NC, USA Birthplace Galveston, TX, USA Division Heavyweight Date of Birth 1878-03-31 Date of Death 1946-06-10 Age at Death 68 Reach 74 Stance Orthodox Height 6' 1½ Trainer Henry (Pop) Blanken W 83 (52 ko's) (+ 10 news) \| L 14 \| D 11 (+ 1 news) \| Total 126 Attached Images

11-12-2006, 07:09 PM	#232
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 18,797	Jake Ahearn repost Vistaman Jake Ahearn 1894 - 1899 id=137182 Sex Male Nationality US American Hometown Brooklyn, NY Division Lightweight W 1 (0 ko's) \| L 1 \| D 0 \| Total 2 Attached Images

11-12-2006, 07:14 PM	#233
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 18,797	Tom Allen repost bigMatt Tom Allen 1861 - 1884 id=78578 Sex Male Nationality British Hometown England Birthplace Birmingham, England Division Heavyweight Date of Birth 1840-04-01 Date of Death 1903-04-05 Age at Death 63 Height 5' 11 W 12 (1 ko's) \| L 8 \| D 4 \| Total 26 My Uni currently features primarily 1800's HW fighters, so I've been on the lookout and found some pretty good stuff. Some of this might have been posted before, but I didn't find it. If so, my apologies in advance. The first 3 are bareknuckler Tom Allen at different stages of his career Attached Images

11-12-2006, 07:15 PM	#234
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 18,797	Tom Allen repost bigMatt Tom Allen mid career Attached Images

11-12-2006, 07:16 PM	#235
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 18,797	Tom Allen repost bigMatt Tom Allen late career Attached Images

11-12-2006, 07:18 PM	#236
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 18,797	Joe Goss repost bigMatt Joe Goss 1857-1880 id=032615 Sex Male Nationality British Hometown Boston, MA, USA Birthplace Northampton, England Division Heavyweight Date of Birth 1837-11-16 Date of Death 1885-03-24 Age at Death 47 Height 5' 8 W 11 (1 ko's) \| L 2 \| D 4 \| Total 17 Goss took the Championship of America belt away from Tom Allen in a DQ for Allen, who hit Goss when he was down. This was one of 4 battles between the two fighters, 2 wins and 2 draws for Goss. Goss lost the belt to Paddy Ryan 3.5 years later at Collier Station, WV, Goss's last recorded bout. Attached Images Last edited by bear; 11-12-2006 at 07:19 PM.

11-12-2006, 07:23 PM	#237
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 18,797	Joe Coburn repost bigMatt Joe Coburn 1856-1871 Known for his two battles against Jem Mace for the World Championship. The first fight was ended early, the second was fought to a draw. No, this picture was not digitally altered... Attached Images

11-12-2006, 07:23 PM	#238
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 18,797	Joe Coburn repost bigMatt Joe Coburn alt Attached Images

11-12-2006, 07:25 PM	#239
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 18,797	John "The Professor" Donaldson repost bigMatt John "The Professor" Donaldson I'm wanting to say this guy fought Sullivan. I know he was pretty well-respected for his boxing prowess. 1884 - 1898 id=78576 Sex Male Nationality US American Hometown Cincinnati, OH Division Heavyweight W 0 (0 ko's) \| L 2 \| D 0 \| Total 2 Attached Images

11-12-2006, 07:26 PM	#240
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 18,797	Dominick McCaffrey repost bigMatt Dominick McCaffrey 1881 - 1906 id=10542 Sex Male Nationality US American Hometown Pittsburgh, PA Birthplace Pittsburgh, PA Division Middleweight Date of Birth 1863-09-24 Date of Death 1926-12-29 Age at Death 63 Height 5' 9 W 15 (9 ko's) \| L 7 \| D 2 \| Total 31 A prominent fighter during this period, he was smaller than many he fought, including John L. Sullivan. Boxrec id's him as a middleweight? Attached Images