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01-27-2013, 10:51 AM | #1 |
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Morale Changes
While I know morale can be a killer in more ways than this, this is the most glaring one to me.
2 guys who play 1B one left handed 1 right handed. They both want to be in the starting lineup. They platoon both get around 400ish AB's between Games, PH ect. Yet both are unhappy with not starting because they arent on all the depth charts as starters vs LHP and RHP Some guys should be happy in a platoon role without having to be a "bench" player. Adding in more different expectations to help keep our players happy would be fun. And before someone says turn morale off, I want morale on thats why the suggestion |
01-27-2013, 11:36 AM | #2 | |
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But yeah, I agree that it might be nice for "platoon" expectations to be differentiated from "bench" or "starter" especially for right-handed batters.
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01-27-2013, 12:12 PM | #3 |
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Treat it like real life. Not everybody can be 100% happy and no manager or GM would ever promise happiness. Also keep in mind you may have injuries and the source of any unhappiness may go away. I've won WS with 2/3 of the team being unhappy. Talent wins in the end.
Some players are impossible to please. This guy wanted to bat 3-4-5 in my lineup so he was unhappy for all 13 seasons he played for me while batting 1st or 2nd. I'll take that production any time.
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I do agree that the morale system could be more sophisticated, although to some extent the unpredictability/incomprehensibility does a half decent job of mapping how diva-ish some RL players can (seem to) be. Maybe if there were an expectation of playing, say, 1/2 of a team's PAs, i.e. more than a bench player but fewer than a full starter, it would help with both platoons, and managing fourth outfielders.
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01-27-2013, 01:55 PM | #5 | |
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I'd like to see OOTP adopt something similar. For example, when offering a contract to a free agent, it would be nice to indicate whether he was expected to be a full- or part-time player, or minor league depth. It would help to avoid situations where a player is unhappy with his playing time, and it might also let free agents be a bit more selective when signing with a team. A player may opt to go to a team offering him a spot in the starting lineup instead of one only offering a spot on the bench. |
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I would not like an FA to be scared off by an incumbent. I would never trade an existing player before I signed his intended replacement. I think that happens IRL too. No intent on my part to make the FA a backup, unless that was the purpose of the signing.
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01-28-2013, 10:47 PM | #11 |
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But every player knows if there is an all-star at that position, signing with that team means their likely to be a bench/platoon player, the team may sign the guy with the intention of trading the incumbent, but the player signing doesnt know this either
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01-28-2013, 11:09 PM | #12 | |
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We're talking about a feature that would allow you to specify the role you intend to give to a FA (backup, starter, platoon, etc.). In your example, you have an All-Star player at the FA's position that you intend to move once you acquired the FA. So, you would be able to tell the FA that you intend to make him a starter, and probably improve your chances of signing him. In my example, I'm signing the FA without the intent to move the All-Star starter, and I'd be able to specify to that FA that he is being signed as a backup, thus avoiding the morale drop that comes from signing someone who expects to start (he either wouldn't sign, or would be okay with being on the bench). In neither case is the FA scared off solely by the incumbent, because the purpose of the contract negotiations is laid out on the table. Last edited by Fyrestorm3; 01-28-2013 at 11:11 PM. |
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