Minor League Age-Limits - Page 4

Le Grande Orange · 03-06-2014, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Honorable_Pawn

Yeah...I can see how this will act as an age limit. I am very excited to try it out...

It's one aspect of the matter. The other is the AI in general and its handling of its minor league organization.

PSUColonel · 03-06-2014, 12:54 AM

In other words he wants a lite simulation, where the GM doesn't have to make these decisions. Why don't people who don't want a hardcore simulation just go play mogul or something else? I am not trying to drive customers off, but I don't understand this mentality. The problem then becomes...Markus accommodates( like the good guy he is) but the addition ends up causing more or other issues. This is not something reflected in real life, and therefore IMO should not be part of OOTP. It has the potential to open up a can of worms, and also takes up valuable productivity time. IF OOTP is going to be as big as we all hope it can be...it really has to focus on modern day MLB rules...it has to get them as detailed as possible (Including the financial model Markus ehem

) and it has to get them right. This is not a playstation game...this is a game that is frankly for dare I say adults, who want to simulate being an MLB GM.

Le Grande Orange · 03-06-2014, 02:10 AM

The whole matter of just how the AI's handling of its minor league system compared to real-life MLB teams' handling of their minor league system is entirely unknown since there has been no comprehensive comparison of the two. OOTP may be quite realistic, somewhat realistic, or fairly unrealistic. But without real-world data to compare against it's all just speculation.

If nothing else such data would serve as a valuable guide as to what happens in the real minor league systems and thus what OOTP should do.

Gathering the data isn't too bad (it is available at MILB.com going back six seasons). It's cleaning it up and getting it formatted and cross-indexed in a useful way that's time consuming.

Honorable_Pawn · 03-07-2014, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

In other words he wants a lite simulation, where the GM doesn't have to make these decisions. Why don't people who don't want a hardcore simulation just go play mogul or something else? I am not trying to drive customers off, but I don't understand this mentality. The problem then becomes...Markus accommodates( like the good guy he is) but the addition ends up causing more or other issues. This is not something reflected in real life, and therefore IMO should not be part of OOTP. It has the potential to open up a can of worms, and also takes up valuable productivity time. IF OOTP is going to be as big as we all hope it can be...it really has to focus on modern day MLB rules...it has to get them as detailed as possible (Including the financial model Markus ehem

) and it has to get them right. This is not a playstation game...this is a game that is frankly for dare I say adults, who want to simulate being an MLB GM.

A lot of us play fictional so we need more options. My universe on Mars has 500-man Rookie limits. See?

Carlton · 03-07-2014, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Honorable_Pawn

In any event, this is my second public gripe and I hope that the wrong impression is not taken from me. This is a great game and I highly recommend it. It is the best game I have ever enjoyed. My hat is off to you and to your skill as a business owner. Well done on all accounts. So...I apologize if I have been coming across as critical lately. No harm intended. Trust me, I do more good for OOTP and its success than I do bad.

No need for apologies, I love this game as well, yet every year in January I pop up like an early ground hog and gripe about the managerial strategies not working (again) and the player strategy needing tweaking and not working for pitchers.

This needs to be implemented because of the reasons you stated

I am doing a historical sim with 3 tiers of minors

American Association/International League at AAA
Texas League and Southern Association at AA
Eastern and Western League at A

What happened as soon as I click "Run Computer manager on Organization" ?

Almost all the players, regardless of age are sent to A, while AA and AAA are mostly barren.

The Wolf · 03-07-2014, 09:59 AM

Let me guess...you have ghost players on.

03-06-2014, 12:54 AM	#62
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,988 Blog Entries: 37	In other words he wants a lite simulation, where the GM doesn't have to make these decisions. Why don't people who don't want a hardcore simulation just go play mogul or something else? I am not trying to drive customers off, but I don't understand this mentality. The problem then becomes...Markus accommodates( like the good guy he is) but the addition ends up causing more or other issues. This is not something reflected in real life, and therefore IMO should not be part of OOTP. It has the potential to open up a can of worms, and also takes up valuable productivity time. IF OOTP is going to be as big as we all hope it can be...it really has to focus on modern day MLB rules...it has to get them as detailed as possible (Including the financial model Markus ehem ) and it has to get them right. This is not a playstation game...this is a game that is frankly for dare I say adults, who want to simulate being an MLB GM.

03-06-2014, 02:10 AM	#63
Le Grande Orange Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Up There Posts: 15,403	The whole matter of just how the AI's handling of its minor league system compared to real-life MLB teams' handling of their minor league system is entirely unknown since there has been no comprehensive comparison of the two. OOTP may be quite realistic, somewhat realistic, or fairly unrealistic. But without real-world data to compare against it's all just speculation. If nothing else such data would serve as a valuable guide as to what happens in the real minor league systems and thus what OOTP should do. Gathering the data isn't too bad (it is available at MILB.com going back six seasons). It's cleaning it up and getting it formatted and cross-indexed in a useful way that's time consuming.