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10-21-2013, 03:03 PM | #161 |
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I think it would be more fair if there were a sizeable discount to those people who already own the previous version and still charge full price to new users. I'm aware that Steam isn't the be-all and end-all of the marketplace but they have already implemented such discounts for other games and it is my belief that something like this should be applied, to varying degree, to sequels across the board.
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They have promised the final version at the end of January. But they have also stated that aside from bugs the beta is pretty much the final version.
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10-21-2013, 03:28 PM | #166 |
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And there's another issue. The current reduced price of OOTP equates to about £16 including tax. So why Does FM sell at $30 in the US and £35 in the UK? (that is also the pre-order price by the way. There is no pre-order reduction here). Some places will, no doubt, offer it for £29.99 but that still doesn't cover the exchange rate.
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Total Extreme Wrestling. Its a wrestling sim where you are the booker or owner of a wrestling company. The company that made it also have a MMA text sim which is good but not as great or impressively detailed as TEW.
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But you basically said FM have been applying minor changes since FM 09.
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I'll take that any day. Some games offer high quantity of features but most of them are done terrible. If the some small improvements are done well then it will only enhance the game further like with OOTP 14. There wasn't a big feature list but in my opinion its far better than OOTP 13 which was considered (by some long time supporters) the best OOTP yet. Also the ME is far from cosmetic, its one of the main reason for the tactical revamp. Last edited by SirMichaelJordan; 10-21-2013 at 05:04 PM. |
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10-21-2013, 04:59 PM | #175 |
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That's a good thing though, right? The core game is the reason why FM is one of the greatest games ever.
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The ME actually has a major effect on tactics. You could see that in 13 (I think it was 13, hazy memory) when the ME was kind of buggy when the beta was released and it played havoc with a lot of peoples tactics. |
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Regarding the whole cosmetics issue: It's true that decent cosmetic advances can increase your immersion into the game. But how much does it cost to put baseball card pictures into OOTP...or indeed pictures of footballers into FM....does it cost £35? Does it cost $30? Hell, does it cost $5? No, that's right, it's generally a free mod. Any cosmetic improvement is only marginally different.
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And are we going to go into the old "but it shows how your tactics work in reaction to the other teams" thing? It doesn't - and even if it does...you can see the exact same thing with the bog standard 2d engine. Last edited by MrMuse; 10-21-2013 at 05:08 PM. |
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10-21-2013, 05:07 PM | #179 | |
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The match engine actually changes the outcome of plays and the game overall. That's been stated by the dev team and discussed at length on the web. It's not merely a cosmetic improvement. It has a direct and substantial effect on gameplay and tactics. It alters the results from what you'd see in 2d. |
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