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Old 03-04-2013, 12:21 PM   #1
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'On The Block' suggestion

This might be a lot to ask from a programming standpoint, but when I place a player on the trading block it would be nice if the AI could offer some trades for that player. I have placed several quality players on the block over several seasons and never had an offer. I think this would definitely add to the realism of the game.
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:37 PM   #2
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This is how it works already. I've been able to trade many players after placing them on the trading block and receiving offers. There's likely a good reason you're not receiving offers -- player has a high salary, AI doesn't rate your player as highly as your scout does, etc.
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Old 03-04-2013, 01:19 PM   #3
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This might be a lot to ask from a programming standpoint, but when I place a player on the trading block it would be nice if the AI could offer some trades for that player. I have placed several quality players on the block over several seasons and never had an offer. I think this would definitely add to the realism of the game.
As long as the guy on the block actually has value I've had no trouble getting offers.
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According to OOTP itself, OOTP MLB play (modern and historical) outnumbers OOTP fictional play three to one.

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Old 03-04-2013, 01:37 PM   #4
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Or just shop the player to see offers instantly.
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Old 03-04-2013, 01:39 PM   #5
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the AI only deals in one-for-one trades. It would be a real evolution if the AI would think in terms of a multi-player deal (and draft picks, if enabled)?
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Old 03-04-2013, 01:43 PM   #6
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Or just shop the player to see offers instantly.
That's the easiest way. I don't do it myself on realism grounds, but it's a perfectly valid thing to do.
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According to OOTP itself, OOTP MLB play (modern and historical) outnumbers OOTP fictional play three to one.

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Okay, good to hear that it does work to some extent. It is possible that the players I put there aren't worth anything to other teams, I haven't tried putting an all-star on there yet.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:36 PM   #8
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the AI only deals in one-for-one trades. It would be a real evolution if the AI would think in terms of a multi-player deal (and draft picks, if enabled)?
I've seen AI-AI trades involving multiple players. 2-1, 3-2, stuff like that. I'm pretty sure I've been offered the same a few times as well.

It IS true that if you shop a player the AI is only looking at 1-1 trades. According to Markus, this is because making the AI test all possible trade combinations for any given player would make the internet explode...not verbatim.
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In my experience if you have a powerhouse team (no weaknesses) the AI will not offer trades even for players on the trading block. I make that claim because once injuries occur the AI makes offers. It would be nice if the trade AI looked at depth charts and offered trades based on positions you have a surplus at.
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This is how it works already. I've been able to trade many players after placing them on the trading block and receiving offers. There's likely a good reason you're not receiving offers -- player has a high salary, AI doesn't rate your player as highly as your scout does, etc.
That's true, but in real life, teams dump high salaried older players at the trading deadline for a handful of prospects. I have never understood how to get the AI to offer prospects for 35 year old veterans.
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