All-Time Random Debut Database & Setup instructions for OOTP10 - Page 3

mikecos23 · 07-04-2011, 10:02 AM

I was curious about this as well, if this would work for OOTP12 or not. Been thinking about running a complete history of baseball with the players randomly mixed up. Thanks!

Mr. Capo · 07-11-2011, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mikecos23

I was curious about this as well, if this would work for OOTP12 or not. Been thinking about running a complete history of baseball with the players randomly mixed up. Thanks!

Me too, please let us know if this is compatible with OOTP12.

Cross-era play (as in random debut) is my favorite way to play OOTP, and I've always wondered why there is not more support for it within the game and the community.

jonpfl · 07-11-2011, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Capo

Me too, please let us know if this is compatible with OOTP12.

Cross-era play (as in random debut) is my favorite way to play OOTP, and I've always wondered why there is not more support for it within the game and the community.

I think this should be an option in the game and not something that is a mod.

Does anyone know if the developers read the mod section?

Thx
jonpfl

Mr. Capo · 07-11-2011, 10:34 PM

Exactly! It should be an option within the game.

When I tell people about OOTP, their response is often, "oh, so you can have, like, Roger Clemens pitch to Babe Ruth..." or something like that. To many people, it's the most obvious appeal about a game like this.

Mr. Capo · 07-13-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jonpfl

I think this should be an option in the game and not something that is a mod.

Does anyone know if the developers read the mod section?

Thx
jonpfl

This is a pretty quiet corner of the forums down here, and we're pretty deep in this thread. Easy to get overlooked. Maybe we should be lobbying for this feature loudly in the suggestions forum.

dcundy · 07-29-2011, 03:27 AM

anyone know if the random database will work with 12??

also trying to modify database. Have always wanted to condense the whole span of majors to 50 years or so. Just a project i started when random database idea first surfaced. I would like to start sim around 1901 and then as sim continues import rookies from lets say years 1902-05 for second year's draft and 1905-1908 for third year's draft and then 1909-1912 for forth and so on. so instead of simming 130 years or so i could get them all in 50 years of simming. i know this is somewhat crazy but l'd like to be able to modify the random database to do this.

could have ruth, gehrig and possibly dimaggio on same yankees team for example or cobb, heilmann, greenberg on tigers team

i know there are best of databases or quick starts out there only dif with this setup is they would have entire careers in database

any one got any ideas how to achieve this??

molarmite · 10-30-2011, 01:56 PM

It doesn't appear to work with 12 when I tried.

Spritze · 11-03-2011, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by molarmite

It doesn't appear to work with 12 when I tried.

Database structure has changed for ver 12 so nuttin' for earlier versions will work without making structural changes that have structurally changed the database structures.

Chicagofan76 · 11-03-2011, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Spritze

Database structure has changed for ver 12 so nuttin' for earlier versions will work without making structural changes that have structurally changed the database structures.

I was able to convert my random DB from 11 to 12 (I still point to the 11 random DB stats folder)

molarmite · 11-03-2011, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicagofan76

I was able to convert my random DB from 11 to 12 (I still point to the 11 random DB stats folder)

Would you be able to upload the file at all for us to download?

Chicagofan76 · 11-03-2011, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by molarmite

Would you be able to upload the file at all for us to download?

I didnt make it. It was made for me by someone else. I have passed his name onto 2 other people so he could make a random DB for other people but it seems he doesnt want to.

bigMatt · 11-18-2011, 08:17 PM

This is exclusively how I played 10. I had a league going for 7 seasons. I skipped 11. I have not been able to get it working with 12. Am so bummed.

Chicagofan76 · 11-19-2011, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bigMatt

This is exclusively how I played 10. I had a league going for 7 seasons. I skipped 11. I have not been able to get it working with 12. Am so bummed.

well see if you can downlaod teh demo for 11 convert your season, then convert it again to 12, but make sure that the database shows where ever you put the Random DB in 10 and it should work. I had a Random DB made for me for 11, i converted it to 12 and it seems to work (i dont play it much)

Heres what my 12 database path says
C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator.TODDPC\My Documents\Out of the Park Developments\OOTP Baseball 11\stats\RandomDB
Note: I have yet to get to another draft yet. but i dont expect problems

bigMatt · 11-19-2011, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicagofan76

well see if you can downlaod teh demo for 11 convert your season, then convert it again to 12, but make sure that the database shows where ever you put the Random DB in 10 and it should work. I had a Random DB made for me for 11, i converted it to 12 and it seems to work (i dont play it much)

Heres what my 12 database path says
C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator.TODDPC\My Documents\Out of the Park Developments\OOTP Baseball 11\stats\RandomDB
Note: I have yet to get to another draft yet. but i dont expect problems

Thanks for the suggestion. I thought it worked - and it did, as far as the current season. But the next season rookie draft yielded only fictional players. The random file couldn't be read. Bah!

Chicagofan76 · 11-20-2011, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bigMatt

Thanks for the suggestion. I thought it worked - and it did, as far as the current season. But the next season rookie draft yielded only fictional players. The random file couldn't be read. Bah!

i'll test mine later today

Spritze · 11-20-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bigMatt

Thanks for the suggestion. I thought it worked - and it did, as far as the current season. But the next season rookie draft yielded only fictional players. The random file couldn't be read. Bah!

The database structure has changed for OOTP12.

When you convert a league it will only work for one year as you have found. Conversion only affects the active year.

That is because the conversion does not change the formats of any of the CSV or ODB files. Unless those are changed as well the game cannot progress.

I posted a D-I-Y on how to create your own Random DB for ANY version of OOTP, even ones that do not exist yet, a few months ago. Ones so generated will progress nicely.

It takes about 20 minutes to create such a db using the instructions once you get used to it and save the steps as Macros in spreadsheets. Expect 1 - 3 hrs the first time depending on when the light bulb gets lit up for you.

If you are good with databases and program one to do these steps it takes less than a minute to generate a random db and no two so generated will ever be the same.

I'd definately use neutered stats as your base/starting csv files. It puts cross-era players on the same level and a random db is one giant cross-era playground.

molarmite · 11-20-2011, 02:06 PM

Do you have the link for that step-by-step process?

bigMatt · 11-20-2011, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by molarmite

Do you have the link for that step-by-step process?

Here You Go

Spritze · 11-25-2011, 12:38 PM

Randon db for OOTP12 available. PM me for the ftp link.

I made 20 different ones but only put up one. If it plays OK I'll put up the rest.

07-29-2011, 03:27 AM	#46
dcundy Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 71	does this work with 12 anyone know if the random database will work with 12?? also trying to modify database. Have always wanted to condense the whole span of majors to 50 years or so. Just a project i started when random database idea first surfaced. I would like to start sim around 1901 and then as sim continues import rookies from lets say years 1902-05 for second year's draft and 1905-1908 for third year's draft and then 1909-1912 for forth and so on. so instead of simming 130 years or so i could get them all in 50 years of simming. i know this is somewhat crazy but l'd like to be able to modify the random database to do this. could have ruth, gehrig and possibly dimaggio on same yankees team for example or cobb, heilmann, greenberg on tigers team i know there are best of databases or quick starts out there only dif with this setup is they would have entire careers in database any one got any ideas how to achieve this??

10-30-2011, 01:56 PM	#47
molarmite Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 4,893 Blog Entries: 1	It doesn't appear to work with 12 when I tried. __________________ From the wise mind of Davey Eckstein "Now all you need is a signature. A quote or initial, perhaps." [

11-20-2011, 02:06 PM	#57
molarmite Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 4,893 Blog Entries: 1	Do you have the link for that step-by-step process? __________________ From the wise mind of Davey Eckstein "Now all you need is a signature. A quote or initial, perhaps." [

11-25-2011, 12:38 PM	#59
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,254	Randon db for OOTP12 available. PM me for the ftp link. I made 20 different ones but only put up one. If it plays OK I'll put up the rest. __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

07-04-2011, 10:02 AM	#41
mikecos23 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Reading, PA, USA Posts: 73	I was curious about this as well, if this would work for OOTP12 or not. Been thinking about running a complete history of baseball with the players randomly mixed up. Thanks!

07-11-2011, 10:34 PM	#44
Mr. Capo Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 240	Exactly! It should be an option within the game. When I tell people about OOTP, their response is often, "oh, so you can have, like, Roger Clemens pitch to Babe Ruth..." or something like that. To many people, it's the most obvious appeal about a game like this.

11-18-2011, 08:17 PM	#52
bigMatt Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 2,375	This is exclusively how I played 10. I had a league going for 7 seasons. I skipped 11. I have not been able to get it working with 12. Am so bummed.