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I'm open to anyone correcting me in a respectful manner. But to me, the dumbest in game penalty you can commit in the major team sports (NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, MLS) is football's lining up in the neutral zone. All you have to do is look at the ball and be behind it a quarter inch. I can't think of any reason why circumstances would force someone to violate that rule unless someone's own teammate or a strong gust of wind shoved him forward.
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What is the Neutral Zone? Seriously, Nowadays there is my side of the ball and your side, with nothing else in between.
When you are looking down the line and trying to get as close as possible, you can mess up. Plus, as the game wears on, DLs try to creep closer and closer hoping the refs won't call it. Plus the refs don't always get to a perfect angle. So between trying to get as much of an edge as possible and simply playing at a faster pace during hurry-up time, it is not so dumb as all that.
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And if there is no neutral zone in the NFL why do they have in the rule book neutral zone infractions?
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I gave up watching football like a decade ago, but isn't the neutral zone the length of the football after it's been spotted?
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If a kick returner takes a knee in the endzone the ball is placed at the 25 yard line. If a WRs foot is an inch behind the 25 yard line, have you ever seen one flagged? He won't be because he's not over the LOS. Same goes for the defender on the other side of the 25 yard line. You can call it whatever you like, neutral zone, demilitarized zone, intergalactic safe zone, but in order to get flagged you have to be over the LOS. |
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Therefore, there IS a neutral zone.
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There's a difference between the line of scrimmage and the neutral zone. If the line of scrimmage were the length of the football, a team would only need to gain 9 yards, 2 feet and half an inch for a first down. And offensive linemen could line up even with the center. They don't. It's entirely possible that neutral zone infractions are not strictly enforced. but, it definitely exists. |
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Excessive Celebration is a dumber rule.
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Otherwise, the center would always be offside and a first down would be less than 10 yards |
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My point is, when you draw a line in the sand there is no neutral zone. It doesn't exist. You can make up any fantasy about a neutral zone you like, but the penalty is still the same as being off sides. It's off sides called a neutral zone infraction. But if A WR lines up on the 25 yard line with the LOS being the 25 yard line he's not getting a neutral zone infraction. If that doesn't tell you there is no real neutral zone then you need a doctor.
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Back in the day, when I played little league football, our coach considered that penalty to be so dumb that, if you committed it, he would take you out of the game, slap you in the helmet, and make you run 10 maps before the next practice.
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Damn, that is one tough coach! "Today kid, you just have to run Rhode Island, do it again and it will be Texas and Alaska!"
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The neutral zone is not that hard to understand. It is obviously not the line of scrimmage because there is one line which the offense (other than the snapper) cannot cross and a different line that the defense cannot cross. If an offensive player lines up across the tip of the ball they are getting a penalty.
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Anyway, my vote is for any unsportsmanlike conduct being the dumbest penalty. When lining up offsides you are at least trying to gain a competitive advantage, you keep pushing forward until the ref calls it. Excessive celebration or taunting is 15 yards just because you have the emotional control of a child.
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