your best line-up, show them off

[reo]

I started in 1936(due to DiMaggio), however, I was unable to replicate 6 straight World Series'. this is my 1958 line-up and likely my best. Yost ended the year with a .363 OBP but only 63 runs, his nickname is the walking man but he only had 68 walks, he did marginally better than his real life stats (.361 OBP but with 81 walks, funny, eh?), then again the senators did not have this arsenal behind him, right? I picked him up since he had a 20 in walks(so I expected .400+ OBP.

(1958 line-up)


this is how I look in 1962 . . . . ridiculous, eh? Would you set it up differently?

(1962 line-up)



while controlling them all these years I could not produce as many titles as they truly won, an example is between 1939-1961, they won 16 titles, I could only produce 8 even with Ted Williams, Joe DiMaggio and Bill Dickey and others(like Harmon Killebrew and Charlie Keller) on my squad, it's been an utter disappointment but enjoyable nevertheless, I just thought I should of done better, lol. Maybe it was my staff(however, I did have ol' Dizzy on my side at one point, hmm? I'm also using set pitch counts to prevent wearing them out.

[Bluenoser]

Pretty hard to replicate something that never happened - 6 straight WS? The record is 5 straight.

Are you using reclalc or just letting the game control development? If the game is controlling development you're likely to get plenty of players who don't match real life. Even with reclalc you'll still get some variance.

[reo]

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

Pretty hard to replicate something that never happened - 6 straight WS? The record is 5 straight.

Are you using reclalc or just letting the game control development? If the game is controlling development you're likely to get plenty of players who don't match real life. Even with reclalc you'll still get some variance.

you're right it was 5 straight between 1936-1941, well I was not able to replicate those Yanks.

and I'm recalculating each year. of course I'll get some variance but with me knowing their future, I just figured I could stack the odds so high in my favor I could do a lot better than what I've done. I got Marichal, Koufax and Perry for the 60's, maybe I'll overrun the 60's. I'm going to try for Gibson too. The problem is they want Aaron, hmm . . .

[Bluenoser]

Actually it was 5 straight from 49 - 53.

They didn't make it to the series in 40.

[Hank O]

The 'droids over-value pitching at the high end, taking Walter and Eddie, 1-2, leaving Ruth for me


Casey Stengel 0.314 0.387 0.498
Milt Stock 0.275 0.320 0.343
Babe Ruth 0.289 0.425 0.517
Rogers Hornsby 0.288 0.318 0.387
Hi Myers 0.273 0.305 0.388
Roger Peckinpaugh 0.256 0.333 0.317
Ivey Wingo 0.294 0.355 0.392
Ed Konetchy 0.293 0.328 0.408

Picking good pitchers is easy with TOTAL BASEBALL as a guide, and that's where you can score vs the 'droids.

Name G GS W L SV IP HA HR R ER BB K ERA AVG CGSHO
Babe Adams 14 14 9 4 0 127.0 104 0 23 15 13 46 1.06 0.221 11 3
Jack Quinn 13 13 9 4 0 111.2 88 2 36 28 34 28 2.26 0.219 11 2
Dutch Ruether 9 9 5 2 0 77.1 71 0 24 22 28 27 2.56 0.247 5 0
Fred Toney 14 13 8 4 0 112.2 118 2 45 31 21 18 2.48 0.271 9 0
Johnny Enzmann 12 0 3 2 3 17.2 16 0 10 6 9 5 3.06 0.235 0 0
Slim Sallee 8 6 4 1 2 55.1 63 2 24 19 5 2 3.09 0.294 4 1

We're 38-17, a game and a half in front of the Cubs.

[reo]

Originally Posted by Hank O

The 'droids over-value pitching at the high end, taking Walter and Eddie, 1-2, leaving Ruth for me


Casey Stengel 0.314 0.387 0.498
Milt Stock 0.275 0.320 0.343
Babe Ruth 0.289 0.425 0.517
Rogers Hornsby 0.288 0.318 0.387
Hi Myers 0.273 0.305 0.388
Roger Peckinpaugh 0.256 0.333 0.317
Ivey Wingo 0.294 0.355 0.392
Ed Konetchy 0.293 0.328 0.408

Picking good pitchers is easy with TOTAL BASEBALL as a guide, and that's where you can score vs the 'droids.

Name G GS W L SV IP HA HR R ER BB K ERA AVG CGSHO
Babe Adams 14 14 9 4 0 127.0 104 0 23 15 13 46 1.06 0.221 11 3
Jack Quinn 13 13 9 4 0 111.2 88 2 36 28 34 28 2.26 0.219 11 2
Dutch Ruether 9 9 5 2 0 77.1 71 0 24 22 28 27 2.56 0.247 5 0
Fred Toney 14 13 8 4 0 112.2 118 2 45 31 21 18 2.48 0.271 9 0
Johnny Enzmann 12 0 3 2 3 17.2 16 0 10 6 9 5 3.06 0.235 0 0
Slim Sallee 8 6 4 1 2 55.1 63 2 24 19 5 2 3.09 0.294 4 1

We're 38-17, a game and a half in front of the Cubs.

yeah I just may have to pick up total baseball, I've been doing most of my research through through baseball reference, and MLB Network lists, lol.

this is my staff(1962), I'll have to look at alternatives for my 4 and 5, but best I could do at the time(1st year player drafts). My pen is awful btw.

[scott1964]

My line up in 1895 is

RF General Stafford
CF Mike Griffin
LF Jesse Burkett
1B Dan Brouthers
3B Denny Lyons
2B Bid McPhee
C Charlie Reynolds
SS Ed Sales

Starting Rotation
Cy Young (On DL)
Henry Porter (On DL)
Lee Richmond
Park Swartzel
Kid Keenan
Charlie Sweeney
Will Calihan

[reo]

Originally Posted by Hank O

The 'droids over-value pitching at the high end, taking Walter and Eddie, 1-2, leaving Ruth for me


Casey Stengel 0.314 0.387 0.498
Milt Stock 0.275 0.320 0.343
Babe Ruth 0.289 0.425 0.517
Rogers Hornsby 0.288 0.318 0.387
Hi Myers 0.273 0.305 0.388
Roger Peckinpaugh 0.256 0.333 0.317
Ivey Wingo 0.294 0.355 0.392
Ed Konetchy 0.293 0.328 0.408

Picking good pitchers is easy with TOTAL BASEBALL as a guide, and that's where you can score vs the 'droids.

yeah you can't lose there, absolutely fantastic. Almost makes me wish I started at an earlier date.

[reo]

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

Pretty hard to replicate something that never happened - 6 straight WS? The record is 5 straight.

just an update, I won 6 straight between '63 - '69, and I made it to the series in '70 but lost to the braves in 5. oh well . . .

[reo]

Originally Posted by reo

just an update, I won 6 straight between '63 - '69, and I made it to the series in '70 but lost to the braves in 5. oh well . . .

in '72, we defeat the Braves in 5,. lol. I love this game.

[D. Boon's Ghost]

Been enjoying the heck out of my latest game; 1911 Indians. I am currently 3/4 of the way through the 1929 season.


Lineup:

Cool Papa Bell, LF
Pie Traynor, 3B
Paul Waner, RF
Jimmie Foxx, 1B
Earl Averill, CF
Joe Cronin, 2B
Joe Sewell, SS
Ted Radcliffe, C


Pitching Rotation:

Bill Foster
George Uhle
Satchel Paige
Wes Ferrell


* Walter Johnson retired after the '27 season with a 422-228 record and 3,471 strike outs (38 off his actual total). He spent 17 years in my organization, winning 8 Pitcher of the Year Awards and 4 Triple Crowns ('12, '13, '17, & '18). The guy was so dominating, in his final year he went 24-8 with a 2.70 ERA.

* In 1928, Paul 'Big Poison' Waner won the American League Batting Title - hitting .387. In the National League that same year, his brother Lloyd won the Batting Title with the Pirates (with a .359 average). I doubt that would happen again even if I tried.

* Several Negro League stars have done quite well for themselves in the majors. From 1919-1922, Oscar Charleston was neck and neck with Babe Ruth as one of the best hitters in the American League. Dick Redding has been a work horse since entering the league in 1911. Bill Foster has earned 3 Pitcher of the Year awards (going 157-67 in 6 full seasons). And Cool Papa Bell has a career batting average of .313 in 8 seasons.


A ton of fun, I tells ya.

[Scoman]

I take it you guys arent using pre -defined draft value for AI

[Chicagofan76]

I am still on 11 and havent played this league in 6 months.
1898 Chicago White Sox 112-42 .727 Lost World series vs Pittsburgh Pirates 99-55. White Sox have played in 6 consectutive World sEries winning 2, 1897 & 1900. I am in 1901 now.
Here was my lineup from 1898.
1. John McGraw 3B .314 42RBI 35SB
2. Hughie Jennings SS .321 2HR 46RBI 28SB
3. Wee Willie Keeler RF .357 2HR 107RBI 66SB
4. Big Ed Delahanty LF .366 8HR 117RBI 22SB
5. Honus Wagner 1B .301 10HR 112RBI 34SB
6. Hugh Duffy 77G CF .337 7HR 51RBI 11SB had several lineups when he was INJ
7. Billy Earle C .240 2HR 66RBI
8. Tim Shinnick 2B .240 2HR 40RBI 18SB
and for SP
Cy Young 41-11 1.89 98K
Toad Ramsey 38-14 1.92 315K he normally retired in 1892 I believe, I have retire and miss seasons off. recalc on.
Kid Nichols 28-13 2,61 115K
I lead the league in SB at 243 and CS at 209. I only played out World Series for this team, simmed the rest.

[avrpatsfan]

I started my sim in 1986 as the Red Sox and the year is 1995 now and this is my lineup.
1. L 3B Wade Boggs (3,000 hits, good for a .340+ average every season)
2. R SS Gary Sheffield
3. L CF Barry Bonds
4. R RF Manny Ramirez
5. L LF Ken Griffey Jr
6. L 1B Rafel Palmeiro
7. R C Ivan Rodriguez
8. L DH Troy O'Leary
9. S 2B Kurt Stillwell

Not bad.

[Chicagofan76]

Originally Posted by avrpatsfan

I started my sim in 1986 as the Red Sox and the year is 1995 now and this is my lineup.
1. L 3B Wade Boggs (3,000 hits, good for a .340+ average every season)
2. R SS Gary Sheffield
3. L CF Barry Bonds
4. R RF Manny Ramirez
5. L LF Ken Griffey Jr
6. L 1B Rafel Palmeiro
7. R C Ivan Rodriguez
8. L DH Troy O'Leary
9. S 2B Kurt Stillwell

Not bad.

impressive whats your payroll in 95? 250 million? only guy you have making less then say 2 mil in 95 in Stillwell.

[reo]

Originally Posted by avrpatsfan

I started my sim in 1986 as the Red Sox and the year is 1995 now and this is my lineup.
1. L 3B Wade Boggs (3,000 hits, good for a .340+ average every season)
2. R SS Gary Sheffield
3. L CF Barry Bonds
4. R RF Manny Ramirez
5. L LF Ken Griffey Jr
6. L 1B Rafel Palmeiro
7. R C Ivan Rodriguez
8. L DH Troy O'Leary
9. S 2B Kurt Stillwell

Not bad.

absolutely perfect.

yeah I can't wait to get there, i'm in '79 now, I can't wait to try and nab both boggs and gwynn for the '80s. I have Brett, Murray, Parker and Schmidt right now, we'll be even more ridiculous in the 80's if I can nab both Boggs and Gwynn. We'll see, however I probably should concentrate more on pitching since I won the pennant five times but could only bring the trophy home three times in the 70s, 3 in 10 isn't bad but we could have done better(say 4+/10).

[avrpatsfan]

Originally Posted by Chicagofan76

impressive whats your payroll in 95? 250 million? only guy you have making less then say 2 mil in 95 in Stillwell.

I signed most of them to favorable team contracts early on. I've had that lineup for a little while. It helps that I drafted some of them too including Manny, Sheff, and Griffey. I let a lot of my type A free agents go and stockpiled a lot of picks.

[avrpatsfan]

Originally Posted by reo

absolutely perfect.

yeah I can't wait to get there, i'm in '79 now, I can't wait to try and nab both boggs and gwynn for the '80s. I have Brett, Murray, Parker and Schmidt right now, we'll be even more ridiculous in the 80's if I can nab both Boggs and Gwynn. We'll see, however I probably should concentrate more on pitching since I won the pennant five times but could only bring the trophy home three times in the 70s, 3 in 10 isn't bad but we could have done better(say 4+/10).

Yeah my pitching has been a problem in my rotation and bullpen. Boggs is crazy in OOTP, always a guarantee that he gets 200+ hits a year and hits .340+ with a .400+ OBP. Thank god I have Clemens who is crazy good. He's always good for 20 wins, a below 3.3 ERA, around 1 WHIP, 280 innings pitched, and amazing postseasons.

[JDRedemann]

I started a sim in 1903, taking the Brooklyn Dodgers (then Robins), and I have had a few of the nastiest lineups ever. We dominated from 1918-26 as the NL's World Series representative through that span, then again from 1928-41, with only the New York Giants interrupting that streak in 1937. So much for a "historical" sim, huh? And though I had such dominant eras, I never could put together more than a three championship streak either, so I feel you there.

I've had some of the best players of the game so far, but I think my favorite lineup and rotation is what I would call the Dodgers' Golden Age, the start of the dynasty years:

The 1918 Brooklyn Dodgers:

CF "Shoeless" Joe Jackson
RF Ty Cobb
3B Rogers Hornsby
LF Babe Ruth
1B Eddie Collins, Sr.
C Wally Schang
SS Buck Weaver
2B Bill Wambsganss
P ---


and, the rotation that sealed the Series:
SP Walter "Big Train" Johnson
SP "Smokey" Joe Wood
SP "Bullet" Joe Bush
SP Fred Anderson


Johnson later went on to lead the majors with 467 wins. Cobb led the league with over 4000 hits, which only "Rajah" Hornsby topped eventually. And, of course, "El Bambino" holds the single season HR record of 54 and the career mark of 684.

[minid]

I try to avoid what I call "Domination Syndrome" where I feel the need to take advantage of the AI to grab every great player I can. (I am soooo guilty of this in the past). Now I have some simple rules to keep the league competitive, even though I know the future, so to speak. Stilll, I can put together some nice runs.

Basically, I don't allow myself to initiate any trades or shop any players. The only trades I can accept are the ones I am offered (default trade settings). As you know, in OOTP12, that means very few quality offers, which works fine. I sometimes pull off 1-2 per year. Other years, there are none. I made no trades in 1919. If I pick 16th every year because I keep winning, so be it. There are a couple other ways I try to keep some realism, but I won't bore you.

I just finished the 1919 season using Spritze's tremendous High School Debut No Asians Database. This Cubs team won the Pennant for the 5th consecutive year, and it's 4th World Series during that span, defeating the Chicago White Sox in a crosstown series 4 games to 2. Here's my lineup, backups, and pitching (and a few of my best prospects in the minors.)

C Wally Schang
3B Heinie Groh
RF Bobby Veach <-- won batting title
LF George "High Pockets" Kelly
CF Edd Roush
1B Joe Judge
2B Ray Chapman
SS Charlie Hollocher

IF Buck Weaver
IF Del Pratt
IF George Cutshaw
C Biz Mackey
OF Clyde Milan
OF Billy Southworth

SP Babe Adams
SP Smokey Joe Williams <-- Cy Young Award
SP Hal Carlson <-- Rookie of the Year Award
SP Waite Hoyt
RP Al Mamaux
RP Ray Kremer
RP Rube Marquard

Final record: 95-45, NL Champions, World Series Champions

Top Prospects on the Farm
Jim Bottomley, Jud Wilson, Bill Terry, Dutch Ruether, Jesse Petty, George Uhle, Cy Williams, Cecil Davis, Henie Meine, Sheriff Blake, to name a few