1940's & 50's boxers - Page 2

Tiger Fan · 01-29-2005, 02:51 AM

A couple of Australian featherweights from the era of Russell Sands.

Ken Wenman, 1945-55 who lost by DQ to Sands for New South Wales State FW title.

and Ray 'Mustard' Coleman (1944-55) who fought Wenman 5 times and also fought Elley Bennett several times.

vistaman44 · 01-29-2005, 01:26 PM

Tiger fan and ConnChris;

About a year ago I posted a bunch of 1940s add-ons from my personal universe at CornerWork.com in the eight main weight classes. Also, Mark Moe's 1930s fighters (also posted there) include several that overlap into the 1940s that I added to my universe. Hope those will be helpful to you guys.

Tiger Fan · 01-29-2005, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by vistaman44

Tiger fan and ConnChris;

About a year ago I posted a bunch of 1940s add-ons from my personal universe at CornerWork.com in the eight main weight classes. Also, Mark Moe's 1930s fighters (also posted there) include several that overlap into the 1940s that I added to my universe. Hope those will be helpful to you guys.

they definately were helpful for me. thank you.

I am just trying to add some bottom level guys into my universe so I can pad the records of young fighters as they make their way up the ladder.

Here is my next one, another Australian. (Somehow I got off track from the Canadians I was adding).

Bobby Sinn bantamweight 1950-61. Held both the Australian bantam and featherweight titles at various times. Also had a shot at the vacant British Commonwealth featherweight belt but lost on points to Peter Keenan. The image of him I found was, although rather poor, from that fight with Keenan.

Tiger Fan · 01-29-2005, 06:26 PM

edit - Apparently board does not like spelling on his last name.

Here is one I tinkered with for a while trying to get just right. It was almost like he had two different careers. Hopefully these ratings can reflect his skills. If anyone has rated him prior to me or has some suggestion on how to improve my ratings it would go a long towards helping me get better at doing them.
Enjoy.

ROBERT TAKE****A 6(5)-6-0
Born on the island of Oahu, Hawaii in 1927, Take****a became the US AAU welterweight champion in 1946. His mannerisms and attitude were extremely cocky, or so it appeared to the fans, so people disliked him but came out in droves in hopes of seeing him get dumped.

He turned pro in June of 1946 with manager Sam Ichinose, who also managed Dado Marino. Take****a won his first pro fight by knockout and continued winning most of his fights by KO. He was proclaimed Hawaii's athlete of the year in January 1947. Ichinose took Take****a to Glasgow, Scotland to fight on the undercard of Marino's matchup with world flyweight champion Jackie Paterson but the fight never occurred as the British Boxing Board of Control refused to sanction the bout, allegedly because Paterson was overweight.

Take****a best fight was a 10 round defeat to the highly regarded Max Docusen before over 17,000 fans in Hawaii. Despite being badly outslugged and outboxed Take****a finally won over the Honolulu fans because of his game effort. However, controversy soon followed as their were questions when Take****a and Rudy Cruz met in 1949. Referee Walter Cho declared it no-contest when it appeared neither boxer was making a real effort to win. There was difficulty finding opponents after that although they did turn down a matchup with Art Aragon. When Take****a lost to Rudy Guitierrez in the latter's only pro fight his career was on a downslide it would never recover from. He returned to Hawaii and was ko'd twice by Phillip Kim in 1950. (from Journal of Combative Sport-Nov 1999)

CONN CHRIS · 01-30-2005, 06:28 AM

I enjoyed the write up Tiger Fan - thank you. The censoring bit is just too funny, especialy with some of the language that I have seen people use here.

By the way, have you heard anything about Uggy lately? I wonder if he will be able to make camp with this whole situation involving his mom unresolved.

Take care,

Christopher

Tiger Fan · 01-30-2005, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

By the way, have you heard anything about Uggy lately? I wonder if he will be able to make camp with this whole situation involving his mom unresolved.

Last I read was Urbina said he will be attending spring training whether it is resolved or not.

Tiger Fan · 02-01-2005, 02:06 AM

3 more
Frankie Abrams WW from Detroit area 39(10)-22-6 from 1943-50
Eddie Halligan MW from Oakland 72(9)-27-31 from 1935-50
Cliff Hart WW from Syracuse 18(11)-8-2 from 1946-49

bear · 09-20-2006, 11:43 PM

bump

bear

CONN CHRIS · 12-29-2006, 11:50 AM

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01-29-2005, 02:51 AM	#21
Tiger Fan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 9,537	A couple of Australian featherweights from the era of Russell Sands. Ken Wenman, 1945-55 who lost by DQ to Sands for New South Wales State FW title. and Ray 'Mustard' Coleman (1944-55) who fought Wenman 5 times and also fought Elley Bennett several times. __________________ Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles Columnist- The Figment Sporting Journal MY FIGMENT LEAGUE BROOKLYN KINGS DYNASTY PAST DYNASTYS My History of Hockey Replay Tiger Fan's Sporting News : the mid 1940's Tiger Fan's All Sport Replay: The 1920s History of Sports 1901-15 Historical Tutorial and Feedback League My first fictional attempt The HOB4: The last of my series of history of baseball replays that go back to OOTP2 and the old message board. Last edited by Tiger Fan; 04-18-2007 at 12:40 AM.

01-29-2005, 01:26 PM	#22
vistaman44 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Auxvasse, Mo. Posts: 3,576	Lots of 40s add-ons Tiger fan and ConnChris; About a year ago I posted a bunch of 1940s add-ons from my personal universe at CornerWork.com in the eight main weight classes. Also, Mark Moe's 1930s fighters (also posted there) include several that overlap into the 1940s that I added to my universe. Hope those will be helpful to you guys. __________________ ---Mark (vistaman44) http://www.fistication.blogspot.com/ "What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters, compared to what lies within us." — Ralph Waldo Emerson, American essayist, philosopher and poet (1803-1882) ----------------------------------- Currently operating 1970s SM-HW, 1940s, African, 1980s LW and women's boxing universes

01-29-2005, 06:26 PM	#24
Tiger Fan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 9,537	edit - Apparently board does not like spelling on his last name. Here is one I tinkered with for a while trying to get just right. It was almost like he had two different careers. Hopefully these ratings can reflect his skills. If anyone has rated him prior to me or has some suggestion on how to improve my ratings it would go a long towards helping me get better at doing them. Enjoy. ROBERT TAKE**A 6(5)-6-0 Born on the island of Oahu, Hawaii in 1927, Takea became the US AAU welterweight champion in 1946. His mannerisms and attitude were extremely cocky, or so it appeared to the fans, so people disliked him but came out in droves in hopes of seeing him get dumped. He turned pro in June of 1946 with manager Sam Ichinose, who also managed Dado Marino. Takea won his first pro fight by knockout and continued winning most of his fights by KO. He was proclaimed Hawaii's athlete of the year in January 1947. Ichinose took Takea to Glasgow, Scotland to fight on the undercard of Marino's matchup with world flyweight champion Jackie Paterson but the fight never occurred as the British Boxing Board of Control refused to sanction the bout, allegedly because Paterson was overweight. Takea best fight was a 10 round defeat to the highly regarded Max Docusen before over 17,000 fans in Hawaii. Despite being badly outslugged and outboxed Takea finally won over the Honolulu fans because of his game effort. However, controversy soon followed as their were questions when Takea and Rudy Cruz met in 1949. Referee Walter Cho declared it no-contest when it appeared neither boxer was making a real effort to win. There was difficulty finding opponents after that although they did turn down a matchup with Art Aragon. When Takea lost to Rudy Guitierrez in the latter's only pro fight his career was on a downslide it would never recover from. He returned to Hawaii and was ko'd twice by Phillip Kim in 1950. (from Journal of Combative Sport-Nov 1999) __________________ Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles Columnist- The Figment Sporting Journal MY FIGMENT LEAGUE BROOKLYN KINGS DYNASTY PAST DYNASTYS** My History of Hockey Replay Tiger Fan's Sporting News : the mid 1940's Tiger Fan's All Sport Replay: The 1920s History of Sports 1901-15 Historical Tutorial and Feedback League My first fictional attempt The HOB4: The last of my series of history of baseball replays that go back to OOTP2 and the old message board. Last edited by Tiger Fan; 04-18-2007 at 12:40 AM.

01-30-2005, 06:28 AM	#25
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 28,366	I enjoyed the write up Tiger Fan - thank you. The censoring bit is just too funny, especialy with some of the language that I have seen people use here. By the way, have you heard anything about Uggy lately? I wonder if he will be able to make camp with this whole situation involving his mom unresolved. Take care, Christopher __________________ Check Out My Cards!

02-01-2005, 02:06 AM	#27
Tiger Fan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 9,537	3 more Frankie Abrams WW from Detroit area 39(10)-22-6 from 1943-50 Eddie Halligan MW from Oakland 72(9)-27-31 from 1935-50 Cliff Hart WW from Syracuse 18(11)-8-2 from 1946-49 __________________ Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles Columnist- The Figment Sporting Journal MY FIGMENT LEAGUE BROOKLYN KINGS DYNASTY PAST DYNASTYS My History of Hockey Replay Tiger Fan's Sporting News : the mid 1940's Tiger Fan's All Sport Replay: The 1920s History of Sports 1901-15 Historical Tutorial and Feedback League My first fictional attempt The HOB4: The last of my series of history of baseball replays that go back to OOTP2 and the old message board. Last edited by Tiger Fan; 04-18-2007 at 12:40 AM.

09-20-2006, 11:43 PM	#28
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 18,798	bump bear

12-29-2006, 11:50 AM	#29
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